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[Seem strange that a team relegated from 1A in 2020 wont be able to play in Senior Championship but 4 top teams in 1B will]

So how many get promoted/relegated from 2019 leagues?  Seem strange that a team relegated from 1A in 2020 wont be able to play in Senior Championship but 4 top teams in 1B will.  Though they can still take the option that Glenullin took and play in Championship they shouldn't have been in.

That's incorrect.

New championship will be 12 x 1A teams + Top 3 1B teams + intermediate champions

or 12 x 1A teams + top 4 1B teams if intermediate champions finish in top 3.

Ok, must be a Monday morning thing and my heads not working.  So in saying this, the 1B league will have to be completed before the Championship begins and the intermediate champions will be from the season before then?

2019 championship is '2018 top 15 division 1' and Banagher.

2020 championship will take 2019's standing like i have said above.

Cheers.  How many teams are promoted/relegated from next season?

[Seem strange that a team relegated from 1A in 2020 wont be able to play in Senior Championship but 4 top teams in 1B will]

So how many get promoted/relegated from 2019 leagues?  Seem strange that a team relegated from 1A in 2020 wont be able to play in Senior Championship but 4 top teams in 1B will.  Though they can still take the option that Glenullin took and play in Championship they shouldn't have been in.

That's incorrect.

New championship will be 12 x 1A teams + Top 3 1B teams + intermediate champions

or 12 x 1A teams + top 4 1B teams if intermediate champions finish in top 3.

Ok, must be a Monday morning thing and my heads not working.  So in saying this, the 1B league will have to be completed before the Championship begins and the intermediate champions will be from the season before then?

Hi ! What's the story with next year's club championship??? Is it twelve teams in each championship or the 16?

Top 4 in junior play intermediate championship, so I'm guessing the same for intermediate / senior? Not sure though if that means the top 4 in the league at the time of the draw or the 4 semi finalists this year

top 4 in 1b league playing senior championship next year, sure what would the purpose be of Banagher V Newbridge play off if otherwise

Change Joe toe to Joe know 

Maybe not, as he's wrong. Senior Championship next year will be the same teams as this year with the exception of Claudy being replaced by Banagher. From 2020 onwards it will be Division 1A teams along with top 3 from Division 1B and Intermediate Championship winners from the previous year.

So how many get promoted/relegated from 2019 leagues?  Seem strange that a team relegated from 1A in 2020 wont be able to play in Senior Championship but 4 top teams in 1B will.  Though they can still take the option that Glenullin took and play in Championship they shouldn't have been in.

i hear Gormley has stepped down from Glen.  They were really poor against Lavey on Sunday. 

Why can Glen and Magherafelt not get over the line in senior championship and win one.  Being townie teams is a lazy analysis, but what is the reason considering the amount of good youth players they produce?

It's Called pedigree. Most Successfull clubs have that knowledge of winning championships. E.G. It's taken Banagher 53 years to win an Adult championship. I don't recall Glen winning one and Magherfelt's last win was in 1977

I think if Glen or Magherafelt had been playing in the intermediate Adult Championship they would have won their fair share down through the years.

Totally agree regards disgraceful scenes after the screen match and no officials should have to put up with it.

Though what I will disagree with is ones on here saying that Damien Harkin is a good referee.  Time and time again he has affected the outcomes of big games with his decisions, which were later proven to be wrong with evidence and on occasions the CB having to throw them out. 

A good referee should be seen and not heard.  With Damien he seems to enjoy being the center of attention no matter if its right or wrong. 

I think after this weeks championship games i see why we ended up in division 4

The level is really poor.  A lot of it suited to scrambling around on poor pitches later in the year where you can get away with not being at the skill or athleticism level of top players. It will be interesting to see how many of these underage players from the last few years will come through to play at county or even club senior level.

It looks to have all the enjoyment of getting your teeth pulled out without an anesthetic for those who have the skill level to play a bit of football never mind watching it.  Of course what is normally put forward is that young lads didn't really have the hunger or desire rather than looking at what is at fault.

You seem to have a fair emotional interest in club / county football. What do you suggest we do to lift the level? Are you personally involved in shaping players through your club?

My personal opinion is we have 25/30 players that would rival any county outside the top 6. Do you think we don't have a squad of players in the county to rivil Meath, Roscommon, Kildare?? For I do.  The problem is, management last year culled too many big hitters and blooded too many young guns, leaving us relegated rather than pushing for promotion back to div 2. Will Mackers and co learn from this or continue down the same lines as last year ? Who knows...

As regards club football, and Derry are far from the only county hit with this, but the scourge of the money mercenaries infesting the club scene isn't helping. They've zero emotional attachment to the clubs. They drain the club and imo leave a lot of resentment along the way. For every Micky Moran, there's a couple of dozen blow ins taking the cheque and winning nothing (because winning must be everything if a club is paying huge amounts of money to these cowboys).

Imagine the Magherafelt u12/u14 coaches watching that dirge on Sunday evening. Are they developing future players to stand off their men en masse without laying a hand on the ball (ie anti-football)?? Meanwhile they go back to coaching on Wed / Sun and the latest money man rides off into the sunset with his big brown envelope scouring for his next club with their latest defensive anti-football masterplan in place.

There is some self preservation in club management these days.  Not in all teams but certainly some.  i.e. dont risk getting a tanking and your reputation will be intact for a nicely paid job the next season either at your existing club or the next.  One way of stopping this is reducing or eliminating the money as you say.

Tell u what the new leagues will definitely do, ensure clubs will have only 11 league games instead of 15, four games less. All to increase county football games and especially generate more money

How does it generate more money? Even if the County team we're going well we'd have no supporters and there's no fortune to be made in supporters going to County matches!

It generates more money because there are more county games, the only reason this format (super 8s) was introduced. And it is the club scene that is having its league games reduced 

With only 11 league games will we go back to group stages for championship? That would mean 3 more matches for everyone. Most other counties seem to be going that way.

Clubs have unanimously voted for the club championship not to be group stages a couple of times over the past few years.

So in saying that, yes the county board will probably make it group stages to finance the county team and go against clubs wishes as usual.

Tell u what the new leagues will definitely do, ensure clubs will have only 11 league games instead of 15, four games less. All to increase county football games and especially generate more money

The football will become alot worse also.  Teams now will play everyone behind the ball as the risk of defeat is to large.  There won't be many free scoring games as there has been in 16 team league.

Can any one explain to me how the County board fixtures committee allowed final league fixtures to be on at different times and dates when the outcome of one affects another?  Any wonder people like myself think they haven't a clue what they are at.

[I would hazard a guess that your club isnt in one of the top 20 in the County and so you dont give a hoot about club football]

If you want to have a go at setting the fixtures, join the committee.  I'm sure they'd love to have some of the brains here on board.  Last year there was a full-on consultation period for people with regard to all this.  Why did you not head over to Owenbeg and present your concerns there...?  Yeah bollocks to that, far easier to sit back, take another mouthful from your tin of special brew, and snipe from the sidelines with the benefit of hindsight when it doesn't work out to your liking.

If the county team had done in any way well this year and there was a conflict of club fixtures with a qualifier, for instance, the same bunch would be out in force yapping that our county board weren't giving them any backing.

Full-on consultation.  I believe that was one evening in owenbeg.  Why would anyone club go over there not to be listened to.  Wasn't so long ago clubs all had a vote on the black card and voted against it.  What did our County Board delegate do.  That's right he went down and voted against the clubs wishes.

Until you and your other county board members start listening to clubs you will continue to get this criticism.  To come on and suggest that the league hasn't been any more than a complete farce iterates this point totally.  I would hazard a guess that your club isnt in one of the top 20 in the County and so you dont give a hoot about club football, similar to other members along side you!

That's one seriously ignorant statement

Might be but its the truth.  Our County Board aren't in touch with the top club football in Derry.

If you want to have a go at setting the fixtures, join the committee.  I'm sure they'd love to have some of the brains here on board.  Last year there was a full-on consultation period for people with regard to all this.  Why did you not head over to Owenbeg and present your concerns there...?  Yeah bollocks to that, far easier to sit back, take another mouthful from your tin of special brew, and snipe from the sidelines with the benefit of hindsight when it doesn't work out to your liking.

If the county team had done in any way well this year and there was a conflict of club fixtures with a qualifier, for instance, the same bunch would be out in force yapping that our county board weren't giving them any backing.

Full-on consultation.  I believe that was one evening in owenbeg.  Why would anyone club go over there not to be listened to.  Wasn't so long ago clubs all had a vote on the black card and voted against it.  What did our County Board delegate do.  That's right he went down and voted against the clubs wishes.

Until you and your other county board members start listening to clubs you will continue to get this criticism.  To come on and suggest that the league hasn't been any more than a complete farce iterates this point totally.  I would hazard a guess that your club isnt in one of the top 20 in the County and so you dont give a hoot about club football, similar to other members along side you!

Are you sure it goes to head to head.  I thought Derry CB changed it to score difference at the start of this season?

Must surely be the most harebrained scheme in a long time, even for Derry CB, to relegate 4 and possibly 5 teams out of the top division in one fell swoop.

You would wonder at the thought process behind this, that someone would randomly say:

'right I've got it, the solution to Derry's football ills at county level is that our players are playing too much football, what we need to do is give all senior teams 11 games a year in the league and at least one in the championship. And this season lets ram 15 league games into about 10 weeks so that lads are playing 3 games in 8 days a few times, after not having a game for 2 months, which will allow us to introduce a nice big long break in the middle of the summer that we can fill with glorified friendlies, sure that'll allow any lads that want to f off to America the perfect opportunity to do so'.......

complete mad nonsense.

No but Barker is doing a tremendous job according to some on here.  All to suit the County footballers who have a support of about 500 at games and to hell with the other 99% of the playing Gaelic footballers in the county and supporters.

What way does the play off work?  Is it the 5th from bottom plays the winner of Div2?  If thats the case what 4 teams to you feel you will finish above?

Expect nothing else.  Barker and Co dont have a notion.