Once again it's not a rule change!! If nickey & co felt it was they wouldn't have rushed it through. They are not that stupid
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Show posts MenuQuote from: behind the wire on December 05, 2007, 02:40:48 PM
PAY FOR PLAY IN ONE SENTENCE:
simple - getting money because you play gaelic football or hurling.
that includes the grant. players get the grant because they play football or hurling. this is pay for play.
STUDENTS GET THE GRANT FOR PLAYING HURLIGN AND FOOTBALL - PAY FOR PLAY IS ALREADY HERE THEN
the reason no meetings have been called against paying managers is because it is all being done under ground. although everyone knows about it it is not advertised in the public domain. it is, however, equally as bad as the paying of players and needs to be eradicated. if any good has come out of this argument it is that it has stood to highlight the problem with paid managers in the association. it is wrong and hopefully there will be a huge backlash against the practice now.
SO BECAUSE YOU DON'T SEE IT ITs Ok?!
it is the fact that amateur players came out and more or less demanded payment for taking part in what is simply a hobby that lead to the public outrage.
Quote from: tram on December 04, 2007, 01:41:28 PM
In my experience, anyone who defines something as "real" as in "real music", "real Irishman" or "real GAA man" is really saying "it's exactly what I do or what I like. No doubt I'll get SHOUTED down and insulted over it.
IMHO this matter should be treated in the same way that the old Rules 21 & 42 should be dealt with where consolutation was taken at first to club levels, then county and then to central council. That way the democratic structures of the GAA, although they're not perfect they're what we have, can be fully implemented to allow all members a say. Both sides of this matter claim to have the support of "grassroots" and so should have nothing to fear from such an exercise.
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on December 04, 2007, 01:34:44 PMQuoteThat's a childish level of understanding of the difference between amateurism and professionalism when it comes to PLAYING the games.
When does amateur become professional.......when you start to get paid for.....the now full time professional position of county administrator was previously a hobby of the volunteer, whenever this position became a professional paid role, there was not as much a whimp about it. The full time professional coaches that each county has was the one that was previously occupied with the volunteer. what has happened is that the player has been the one thing that has underpinned the devlopment of the association, yet the player is the one person who has been treated the worst, the longest. This espisode is further evidence of members still willing to ensure the player is just another member where infact they are the single most important asset we have. many of the contributors seem scared and intraverted in their position, have no confidence in our officers to manage this correctly. Here we have an opportunity to ensure that our players are aforded the opportunity to be treated the same as the other sports men in this country by getting a grant from the GOVERNMENT, no the GAA. Why is that peoples lack of confidence allows them to paint a picture of players getting paid, when it is not payment. You have sat idolly by when universities players were getting grants, is that because it was out of sight for the mass majority and therefore not in your face. No this stinks of begrudgment of the highest order. Again frommy point of view if it was the Gaa was paying, I would be up in arms. This is so Irish and typical parochial in nature and tone.