Thanks lads for your calm response to my post. A few things.
Firstly, I dont intend to get involved in an ongoing discussion here. Its just not me and I will leave that to you guys instead. I simply dont have the time
Secondly, I left there within the past few years. I knew the sports guys from my work in TV. I am now happily retired improving my golf handicap!!! So things may have changed. So I am not Kevin McStay or anyone like that. The big problem was always trying to squeeze into the schedule. Its not a sports station which may be hard for us sports fans to grasp. But its not a sports station so the sports dept have constantly got to fight for airtime. TV schedules are drawn up weeks in advance for many reasons. With the introduction of the qualifiers, alot more games have come on stream. Many games are only fixed a week or two in advance. At that stage, the sports dept have got to choose a game and then try to fit it into the schedule while at the same time adhering to GAA requests on times etc.
As many of you will know it takes more than just a commentator and a camera man to get a game to TV live. Its a huge operation and with RTEs resources, it is simply not possible to show more games over a short period of time. Not even the BBC could show the ammount of live matches over one weekend which RTE manages during the GAA championship all from their own resources. No live feeds from other channels or anything like that. I remember hearing from one head in RTE that SKY sports spend more on two premiership matches than RTEs sports budget for one year. That puts it in perspective. That was a fact stated about three years ago. Thats what RTE are up against and unfortunately alot of critics measure RTE against what SKY and even the BBC can do. I would hazzard a guess that the BBC also have a much bigger budget yet RTE scores every time when they are up against BBC or SKY showing the same rugby or soccer match. With a tiny fraction of the resources, viewers still choose RTE as any world cup viewership figures will show. Now you have got to ask why is that. Its down to the good no nonsense job they do in my opinion.
With regard to bums on seats. Yes RTE sports viewership does do well but it only hits top note on a big soccer international or a big big GAA occassion. But again the remit is not commercial. Its a public service broadcaster. Its not about bums on seats. If it was, leargas, oireachtas report and the angelus would have been given the heave ho years ago.
And finally in relation to commentators, they are very hard to find. Listen to local radio. how many of them would make it onto RTE. The talent just isnt there. is therRTE will try and blood new commentators but they are so hard to find, Look at TV3. Is there anyone there you would move up to RTE? Look at Setanta. With all due respect to them and they are doing a great job, they have Fred Cogley who retired from RTE years ago doing rugby. No harm to Fred who is a great guy but where is the great talent coming through there. And I heard two guys doing GAA on Setanta who acually work in local radio. They are fairly good, but are they great. One of them Kevin Mallon sounds like a nice guy and does his best but would he be bang on for RTE? I beleive that he is a school teacher and a very nice and good GAA man. Even you guys admit that the beeb cant find a good TV commentator. Jackie Fullerton is still doing their soccer after 140 years for goodness sake. And one other thing, I can guarantee you, you will not meet a nicer more decent guy than Ger Canning. he is a gentleman to his fingertips. People may not like his style of commentary but I dont think he is the sort of person that deserves personal criticism. he is a lovely sociable and down to earth man probably too humble for the sort of criticism he has to put up with.
All I will say lads is, I share your frustration on alot of matters but its not all black and white. The sports people in RTE working for a normal wage are doing their best. But getting matces to air is a very tough process especially at this time of year and when you consider that the people in front of camera and behind it are also working on other sports like boxing at this time of the year, its quite amazing how they actually manage to get so much stuff to air without any hiccups. And that goes for soccer, racing and rugby which I think RTE do very well considering how crowded and competitive sports broadcasting is becoming. Just ask the BBC who have just finished covering the British Open, one of the few sports they have left. And still they do sport better than anyone else, especially SKY. If we are not careful, we will go the same route if we keep complaining about RTE and their GAA coverage. The FAI panicked a few years ago and ended up coming back with cap in hand and Dunphy was sitting inside looking at them smiling.
RTE will make mistakes and wrong calls will be made but dont think they are all in a room with their feet up smoking cigars trying to find out the best way of annoying GAA fans while they sip their brandy and talk about rugby. Nice image but it isnt like that. Most of them are from the country and are GAA fans themselves through and through believe me.
Thanks lads. I will retire from posting now and celebrate Harringtons marvellous win in the golf.
Firstly, I dont intend to get involved in an ongoing discussion here. Its just not me and I will leave that to you guys instead. I simply dont have the time
Secondly, I left there within the past few years. I knew the sports guys from my work in TV. I am now happily retired improving my golf handicap!!! So things may have changed. So I am not Kevin McStay or anyone like that. The big problem was always trying to squeeze into the schedule. Its not a sports station which may be hard for us sports fans to grasp. But its not a sports station so the sports dept have constantly got to fight for airtime. TV schedules are drawn up weeks in advance for many reasons. With the introduction of the qualifiers, alot more games have come on stream. Many games are only fixed a week or two in advance. At that stage, the sports dept have got to choose a game and then try to fit it into the schedule while at the same time adhering to GAA requests on times etc.
As many of you will know it takes more than just a commentator and a camera man to get a game to TV live. Its a huge operation and with RTEs resources, it is simply not possible to show more games over a short period of time. Not even the BBC could show the ammount of live matches over one weekend which RTE manages during the GAA championship all from their own resources. No live feeds from other channels or anything like that. I remember hearing from one head in RTE that SKY sports spend more on two premiership matches than RTEs sports budget for one year. That puts it in perspective. That was a fact stated about three years ago. Thats what RTE are up against and unfortunately alot of critics measure RTE against what SKY and even the BBC can do. I would hazzard a guess that the BBC also have a much bigger budget yet RTE scores every time when they are up against BBC or SKY showing the same rugby or soccer match. With a tiny fraction of the resources, viewers still choose RTE as any world cup viewership figures will show. Now you have got to ask why is that. Its down to the good no nonsense job they do in my opinion.
With regard to bums on seats. Yes RTE sports viewership does do well but it only hits top note on a big soccer international or a big big GAA occassion. But again the remit is not commercial. Its a public service broadcaster. Its not about bums on seats. If it was, leargas, oireachtas report and the angelus would have been given the heave ho years ago.
And finally in relation to commentators, they are very hard to find. Listen to local radio. how many of them would make it onto RTE. The talent just isnt there. is therRTE will try and blood new commentators but they are so hard to find, Look at TV3. Is there anyone there you would move up to RTE? Look at Setanta. With all due respect to them and they are doing a great job, they have Fred Cogley who retired from RTE years ago doing rugby. No harm to Fred who is a great guy but where is the great talent coming through there. And I heard two guys doing GAA on Setanta who acually work in local radio. They are fairly good, but are they great. One of them Kevin Mallon sounds like a nice guy and does his best but would he be bang on for RTE? I beleive that he is a school teacher and a very nice and good GAA man. Even you guys admit that the beeb cant find a good TV commentator. Jackie Fullerton is still doing their soccer after 140 years for goodness sake. And one other thing, I can guarantee you, you will not meet a nicer more decent guy than Ger Canning. he is a gentleman to his fingertips. People may not like his style of commentary but I dont think he is the sort of person that deserves personal criticism. he is a lovely sociable and down to earth man probably too humble for the sort of criticism he has to put up with.
All I will say lads is, I share your frustration on alot of matters but its not all black and white. The sports people in RTE working for a normal wage are doing their best. But getting matces to air is a very tough process especially at this time of year and when you consider that the people in front of camera and behind it are also working on other sports like boxing at this time of the year, its quite amazing how they actually manage to get so much stuff to air without any hiccups. And that goes for soccer, racing and rugby which I think RTE do very well considering how crowded and competitive sports broadcasting is becoming. Just ask the BBC who have just finished covering the British Open, one of the few sports they have left. And still they do sport better than anyone else, especially SKY. If we are not careful, we will go the same route if we keep complaining about RTE and their GAA coverage. The FAI panicked a few years ago and ended up coming back with cap in hand and Dunphy was sitting inside looking at them smiling.
RTE will make mistakes and wrong calls will be made but dont think they are all in a room with their feet up smoking cigars trying to find out the best way of annoying GAA fans while they sip their brandy and talk about rugby. Nice image but it isnt like that. Most of them are from the country and are GAA fans themselves through and through believe me.
Thanks lads. I will retire from posting now and celebrate Harringtons marvellous win in the golf.