Well, cant wait for this game. I was unable to get to the game were donegal beat us last time out, so really looking forward to this game!!
jeepers marty have patience!!!
It'll be a long winter - keep dreaming !
Hopefully Karl Lacey will do better in his scoring duel with Paddy Bradley this time - he lost 3 points to 2 the last day. ;D
Notice you didn't say what year to save face ;)
Quote from: ziggysego on October 15, 2007, 09:24:15 PM
Notice you didn't say what year to save face ;)
It was only last year! :)
Seriously tho, why the hell is the draw made so bloody early, cant wait for this game now, love playing tyrone, dublin and donegal!!!
To be honest....this is the one game I would really be afraid off. McIver knows Derry inside and out and if he can get the Donegal lads in the right frame of mind they could destroy us.
I would rather have played Tyrone/Armagh/Monaghan. Donegal just seem to be our bogey team in recent times.
Donegal will win, McIver knows the Derry players too well, why don't we take the takings from next sunday's replay and give them to McIver to cross over to us? Himself and McCloskey would be a formidable team.
When was the last time we beat Donegal? 1998 I reckon? We have an awful record against them though.
Derry lads, Just out of interest... what are you hoping John McCloskey will add to the derry set up?
Individual Conditioning Programs
Quote from: Bogball XV on October 16, 2007, 12:02:58 PM
Donegal will win, McIver knows the Derry players too well, why don't we take the takings from next sunday's replay and give them to McIver to cross over to us? Himself and McCloskey would be a formidable team.
When was the last time we beat Donegal? 1998 I reckon? We have an awful record against them though.
Do you Derry folk never give up?? There is no chance of McIver taking Derry - just get over it. Besides Crozier turned things around last season you would think the fans would get behind him for the coming season.
Quote from: loughshore lad on October 16, 2007, 12:27:30 PM
Quote from: Bogball XV on October 16, 2007, 12:02:58 PM
Donegal will win, McIver knows the Derry players too well, why don't we take the takings from next sunday's replay and give them to McIver to cross over to us? Himself and McCloskey would be a formidable team.
When was the last time we beat Donegal? 1998 I reckon? We have an awful record against them though.
Do you Derry folk never give up?? There is no chance of McIver taking Derry - just get over it. Besides Crozier turned things around last season you would think the fans would get behind him for the coming season.
The general feeling (rightly or wrongly) is that Crozier got lucky, maybe we are doing him a disservice, but imo he has a lot to prove yet.
Agreed, after the Monaghan balls-up he made a couple of key positional switches, got the ball played in quick, and the talent in the squad done the rest.
With a top drawer manager we could go all the way
Quote from: loughshore lad on October 16, 2007, 12:27:30 PM
Do you Derry folk never give up?? There is no chance of McIver taking Derry - just get over it. Besides Crozier turned things around last season you would think the fans would get behind him for the coming season.
its usually me bleating on wistfully about McIver
however as you are completely incorrect regarding Crozier
I hope you are wrong about mr Mc Iver and the possibility regarding him ever managing the Real Rebel county ! ;)
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 16, 2007, 01:10:41 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on October 16, 2007, 12:27:30 PM
Do you Derry folk never give up?? There is no chance of McIver taking Derry - just get over it. Besides Crozier turned things around last season you would think the fans would get behind him for the coming season.
its usually me bleating on wistfully about McIver
however as you are completely incorrect regarding Crozier
I hope you are wrong about mr Mc Iver and the possibility regarding him ever managing the Real Rebel county ! ;)
As far as I remember there was uproar within Derry football circles when they where put out of the Ulster Championship by what subsequently turned out to be a decent Monaghan team. The post mortem after that game had the Derry set up at a very low ebb but the inbreds turned it around to reach an All Ireland Semi. The last I checked Crozier was manager throughout that period so as you say then I am completely wrong about Crozier being involved in turning Derry's season around ;D ;D.
I am not saying he is a great manager all I am saying is he turned things around last season and that Derry fans should be getting behind him instead of constantly barraging him.
Quote from: Bogball XV on October 16, 2007, 12:02:58 PM
When was the last time we beat Donegal? 1998 I reckon? We have an awful record against them though.
We've only met twice since the '98 Ulster Final - the day in Clones in 2002 when most of the crowd stayed in the pub to watch Ireland v Spain, and then last year when you probably underestimated us after you beating Tyrone and us with no established forwards.
Quote from: loughshore lad on October 16, 2007, 02:25:42 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 16, 2007, 01:10:41 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on October 16, 2007, 12:27:30 PM
Do you Derry folk never give up?? There is no chance of McIver taking Derry - just get over it. Besides Crozier turned things around last season you would think the fans would get behind him for the coming season.
its usually me bleating on wistfully about McIver
however as you are completely incorrect regarding Crozier
I hope you are wrong about mr Mc Iver and the possibility regarding him ever managing the Real Rebel county ! ;)
As far as I remember there was uproar within Derry football circles when they where put out of the Ulster Championship by what subsequently turned out to be a decent Monaghan team. The post mortem after that game had the Derry set up at a very low ebb but the inbreds turned it around to reach an All Ireland Semi. The last I checked Crozier was manager throughout that period so as you say then I am completely wrong about Crozier being involved in turning Derry's season around ;D ;D.
I am not saying he is a great manager all I am saying is he turned things around last season and that Derry fans should be getting behind him instead of constantly barraging him.
you obv havent hear me rant on about him before- and that started before he was appointed as Derry boss....know his form and was worried that he might get the job, and have seen nothing to change my 18 year old opinion of him ever since
Quote from: J70 on October 16, 2007, 03:01:30 PM
Quote from: Bogball XV on October 16, 2007, 12:02:58 PM
When was the last time we beat Donegal? 1998 I reckon? We have an awful record against them though.
We've only met twice since the '98 Ulster Final - the day in Clones in 2002 when most of the crowd stayed in the pub to watch Ireland v Spain, and then last year when you probably underestimated us after you beating Tyrone and us with no established forwards.
Aye, we beat yous in '93, but lost in 89, 90 and '92 to yous - so there's two victories and 5 defeats from the last 7 matches (that I remember) - pretty bad record, I'd say that's the worst record we have against any Ulster county.
Quote from: Bogball XV on October 16, 2007, 04:47:50 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 16, 2007, 03:01:30 PM
Quote from: Bogball XV on October 16, 2007, 12:02:58 PM
When was the last time we beat Donegal? 1998 I reckon? We have an awful record against them though.
We've only met twice since the '98 Ulster Final - the day in Clones in 2002 when most of the crowd stayed in the pub to watch Ireland v Spain, and then last year when you probably underestimated us after you beating Tyrone and us with no established forwards.
Aye, we beat yous in '93, but lost in 89, 90 and '92 to yous - so there's two victories and 5 defeats from the last 7 matches (that I remember) - pretty bad record, I'd say that's the worst record we have against any Ulster county.
Don't forget the two league finals. They may only been the league, but losing them to you lot hurt! There was also the rather tempestous quarter final in Breffni in '93, which we scraped through! Donegal-Derry relations weren't too good in the McEniff-Coleman era and afterwards, although by the time of the '96 league final, I think Derry were starting to look on Donegal as a team they could beat handily enough if they really wanted to. A bit like Armagh did up until this year!
That Brolly goal in '98 was a sickener though, as Barry McGowan hadn't given him a sniff up until then, and I still maintain that Geoffrey McGonigle pushed Noel McGinley in the back before winning the ball in the build-up! :P
QuoteA bit like Armagh did up until this year!
We still do, J70, we just dropped the ball last year. :)
Quote from: armaghniac on October 16, 2007, 11:06:21 PM
QuoteA bit like Armagh did up until this year!
We still do, J70, we just dropped the ball last year. :)
You're not still sore at big Hearty are you? :P
Quote from: J70 on October 16, 2007, 05:38:01 PM
and I still maintain that Geoffrey McGonigle pushed Noel McGinley in the back before winning the ball in the build-up! :P
if manus boyle did it and tony boyle scored would you think the same...
it was no free ! :)
What about the league game in autumn 93 where we beat ye by 18pts :)
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 18, 2007, 10:53:59 AM
What about the league game in autumn 93 where we beat ye by 18pts :)
Never happened! :P
was that the day where near the end gormley handpassed a ball through a mans legs??
if so, that was near as good as it got; all ireland winners, on a roll big time; and even though it were "only" a league match, i remember leavin the match thinkin that it dont get much better than that.....