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Title: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 14, 2010, 10:43:21 PM
I like Becks, probably retire now I'd imagine

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/international/article7061827.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/international/article7061827.ece)
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: ross4life on March 14, 2010, 10:47:28 PM
shame he won't get his chance to say goodbye to the football world at the World cup

but looks like i seen him play his last big game............... :-\
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: Capt Pat on March 14, 2010, 10:52:40 PM
This is like when Lady Di died.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: Capt Pat on March 14, 2010, 10:54:34 PM
From my perspective, I don't wish any harm on either Di or Becks it is just that I don't have to hear any more about them when they are dead or injured. However it never works out like that and you still have to hear alll about them in the press.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: orangeman on March 14, 2010, 10:57:56 PM
Never liked him but feel sorry that he'll miss out.



Chance for somebody else all the same.


2014 out of the question ??
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: mouview on March 14, 2010, 11:00:27 PM
Millions of people all over middle England will be crying into their green and yellow scarves now. However I'm sure a 'role' can be found for Sir David (surely only a matter of time) in the run up to the World Cup. Perhaps tour the townships in a bid to raise morale, a bit like Bob Hope in 'Nam, except David won't (can't) have to give concerts. Have the Beeb started wearing black armbands yet?
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: Minder on March 14, 2010, 11:02:06 PM
I would feel a bit sorry for someone like Messi, Ronaldo or Kuyt if they had that type of injury and missed out on a World Cup whilst at the peak of their game. Beckham would have been no more than a seldom used cheerleader. No doubt we will have the required few days of mourning.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2010, 11:02:54 PM
Improves Capello's chances. The Beckham shadow was always gonna harm the English.

Badly need a Rooney injury now.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: ross4life on March 14, 2010, 11:07:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 14, 2010, 11:02:06 PM
I would feel a bit sorry for someone like Messi, Ronaldo or Kuyt if they had that type of injury and missed out on a World Cup whilst at the peak of their game. Beckham would have been no more than a seldom used cheerleader. No doubt we will have the required few days of mourning.

did you just put messi, Ronaldo & kuyt in the same sentence  :o
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: Denn Forever on March 14, 2010, 11:18:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 14, 2010, 11:02:54 PM
Improves Capello's chances. The Beckham shadow was always gonna harm the English.

Badly need a Rooney injury now.

If he has any sense he will take an extra striker instead of the midfielder that was probably going to be Beckham.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: Orior on March 14, 2010, 11:19:31 PM
Also feel sorry for Posh. She might have top ressurect the singing career now.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: ziggysego on March 14, 2010, 11:21:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 14, 2010, 11:02:54 PM
Improves Capello's chances. The Beckham shadow was always gonna harm the English.

Badly need a Rooney injury now.

What? Give them a ready made excuse? No thanks.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: muppet on March 14, 2010, 11:23:25 PM
If he completely severed it I don't see him playing again. I know Denis Hickie made it back but he wasn't Beckham's age.

Very unfortunate for the guy, I think he has been a good player for clubs and country but I never liked the circus around him.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on March 14, 2010, 11:31:25 PM

People don't like to see a superstar publicise themselves thesedays and I understand that, but when it came to a battle in his sporting career beckham fronted up to anything that was thrown at him. His season after WC 98 was awesome, standing up to a Galaxy fan, getting back in the England fold, his form in his last season in Madrid. You cant help to feel sorry for the man no matter how many millions he has in the bank.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: Orior on March 14, 2010, 11:43:02 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on March 14, 2010, 11:31:25 PM

People don't like to see a superstar publicise themselves thesedays and I understand that, but when it came to a battle in his sporting career beckham fronted up to anything that was thrown at him. His season after WC 98 was awesome, standing up to a Galaxy fan, getting back in the England fold, his form in his last season in Madrid. You cant help to feel sorry for the man no matter how many millions he has in the bank.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: thebigfella on March 14, 2010, 11:51:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 14, 2010, 11:02:06 PM
I would feel a bit sorry for someone like Messi, Ronaldo or Kuyt if they had that type of injury and missed out on a World Cup whilst at the peak of their game. Beckham would have been no more than a seldom used cheerleader. No doubt we will have the required few days of mourning.

Kuyt at the peak of his game  :D  He has had one wonder season last year by his and most scouser's standard which he completely overachieved. A complete dungbag of the highest order and a joke to most dutch football fans. Don't make me laugh  ::)

Saying that I'd still feel sorry for him if he done the same as Beckham.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: ONeill on March 15, 2010, 12:11:48 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on March 14, 2010, 11:31:25 PM

People don't like to see a superstar publicise themselves thesedays and I understand that, but when it came to a battle in his sporting career beckham fronted up to anything that was thrown at him. His season after WC 98 was awesome, standing up to a Galaxy fan, getting back in the England fold, his form in his last season in Madrid. You cant help to feel sorry for the man no matter how many millions he has in the bank.

Bollocks. Absolute bollocks. Magnifies the warped sense of pity people have on this planet. Beckham has a gazillion times more (money/opportunities) than many could dream of in sizeable parts we oft hear about. Grab a bit of perspective ffs.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: Asal Mor on March 15, 2010, 04:07:46 AM
It's a blessing for Capello and England alright, as was Michael Owen's injury. It will cut out the media frenzy about 2 guys who are no longer good enough at that level. The only real loss England have suffered so far is the injury to Ashley Cole.
I'd like to see England win it. I hope the Rooneys, Ronaldos and Messis are all fit - wouln't be much of a spectacle without them.

Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 15, 2010, 09:25:59 AM
Can see the quotes now circa 1st July after last 16 or QF defeat  :D
'If Beckham was fit he would have come on for the last 15mins and made the difference with his crossing ability'

Their excuse for failure is ready.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: JimStynes on March 15, 2010, 11:24:29 AM
If Rooney, Ronaldo and Messi can maintain there current form we are in for a great world cup. Feel sorry for Becks, always found him to be a likeable chap, he was one of the most overrated footballers ever though.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: The Subbie on March 15, 2010, 11:31:12 AM
Injury or no injury i don't think he would have been going to the world cup, which would have led to a red top w**k fest.
No he is definitely, definitely not going and the red top w**k fest will commence, and keep lazy journos in copy for ohh maybe 10 days at the least
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: full back on March 15, 2010, 11:31:42 AM
Disappointing for Beckham and if Capello sticks by his word he wont be at the WC in any capacity.

Will be very difficult for Beckham to come back from this.

A global superstar in the world of soccer & an above average player
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: magpie seanie on March 15, 2010, 11:42:49 AM
Beckham is an easy target for abuse and a lot of it is brought on himself with the media love affair him and his advisors have cultivated. All in all though he's not a bad lad who has worked bloody hard to get where he is. The financial rewards he has accumulated are of course far too much for anyone. The English red tops totally overstate his abilities (good player, not a great players as Dunphy would say) and I can see how that turns stomachs.

There's no doubting he badly wanted to play at the World Cup and worked his ass off to achieve that. This injury has deprived him of that so I do feel a bit sorry for him. O'Neill rightly points out that others would be more deserving of pity so perspective is important. It won't be kept in certain quarters but that doesn't mean I can't feel some sympathy for the guy.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: AZOffaly on March 15, 2010, 11:45:09 AM
I feel sorry for him. I don't think he's the worst lad in the world. It's a pity his career is probably over with this if he is out for 6 months. That's a tough injury to come back from.

His celebrity always overshot his ability, but he was a great deadball man, and a great crosser of the ball. He was never the world's best player, or anything like it, but he seemed to be a very good pro and was liked by his peers.

He had his own issues with women, which was a pity for his reputation, but he does seem (now) to be a good family man and a decent fella.

There's a lot worse than him around.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: ziggysego on March 15, 2010, 12:05:22 PM
What's with the eulogy guys? He's not dead.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: thewobbler on March 15, 2010, 12:06:52 PM
Seeing as Beckham's absence will probably secure Walcott's place on the place, this is a double blow for England. Theo is one of the worst players in the Premiership.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: full back on March 15, 2010, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on March 15, 2010, 12:05:22 PM
What's with the eulogy guys? He's not dead.

Who said he was dead?
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 15, 2010, 12:11:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 14, 2010, 11:02:54 PM
Improves Capello's chances. The Beckham shadow was always gonna harm the English.



would agree with that

but not the shadow, the fact that beckham contributes nothing to a team other than the potential to score from a free kick 30% of the time means that this is in fact good news for englands world cup bid
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: Puckoon on March 15, 2010, 04:35:46 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 15, 2010, 12:11:48 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on March 14, 2010, 11:31:25 PM

People don't like to see a superstar publicise themselves thesedays and I understand that, but when it came to a battle in his sporting career beckham fronted up to anything that was thrown at him. His season after WC 98 was awesome, standing up to a Galaxy fan, getting back in the England fold, his form in his last season in Madrid. You cant help to feel sorry for the man no matter how many millions he has in the bank.

Bollocks. Absolute bollocks. Magnifies the warped sense of pity people have on this planet. Beckham has a gazillion times more (money/opportunities) than many could dream of in sizeable parts we oft hear about. Grab a bit of perspective ffs.

Jesus O'Neill within the sporting context - its not bollocks at all. He's done as much for England at the national team level than manys a less glamourous player for sure - but thats not his fault. He's had the sense to make his hay while the sun shone out of his arsehole, but you can bet no matter how loaded he is right now he'd be bitterly dissapointed at picking up an injury like this which ends his England career, especially a few months away from the world cup.

Its not as though his injury is being compared to world peace or starving children!

Personally Im dissapointed, always enjoyed watching him - and regardless of good or bad days his couple season in the MLS here his work rate has been second to none, which might light a few fires under the arses of boys he was playing with. As AZ said - a great and well respected pro - if overhyped a little.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 15, 2010, 05:03:45 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 15, 2010, 11:24:29 AM
If Rooney, Ronaldo and Messi can maintain there current form we are in for a great world cup. Feel sorry for Becks, always found him to be a likeable chap, he was one of the most overrated footballers ever though.
You forgot Kuyt.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: Minder on March 15, 2010, 05:09:27 PM
Have the Sun started a "Lets get Becks fit for the World Cup" campaign yet ?
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: red hander on March 15, 2010, 05:37:35 PM
Dunno what all the whining's about, I doubt if Capello would have started him in WC anyway ... a player five years past his sell by date and only wheeled out to shift tickets for slow-selling friendlies at Wembley ... though we will miss his on the pitch bawling when England inevitably crash out on penalites
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: highorlow on March 15, 2010, 07:01:49 PM
Wait for a few weeks and it will be revealed that his injury isn't as bad as first seemed and he will actually be fit in time for the WC.

He is an attention seeker and this is a PR stunt.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on March 15, 2010, 07:12:11 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 15, 2010, 12:11:48 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on March 14, 2010, 11:31:25 PM

People don't like to see a superstar publicise themselves thesedays and I understand that, but when it came to a battle in his sporting career beckham fronted up to anything that was thrown at him. His season after WC 98 was awesome, standing up to a Galaxy fan, getting back in the England fold, his form in his last season in Madrid. You cant help to feel sorry for the man no matter how many millions he has in the bank.

Bollocks. Absolute bollocks. Magnifies the warped sense of pity people have on this planet. Beckham has a gazillion times more (money/opportunities) than many could dream of in sizeable parts we oft hear about. Grab a bit of perspective ffs.

How is my pity warped, it's my pity not yours, are you f**king god or something. Just because a millionaire lucks out dosent mean you cant feel sorry for them, I think the green monster within yourself O'Neill magnifies the warped sense of 'us and them' in modern times 8)
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: JUst retired on March 15, 2010, 08:26:41 PM
If the injury is as bad as reported I think we have seen the last of him playing football.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: red hander on March 15, 2010, 08:48:37 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on March 15, 2010, 08:26:41 PM
If the injury is as bad as reported I think we have seen the last of him playing football.

We seen the last of him playing football when he went to Real Madrid
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: tyssam5 on March 15, 2010, 09:10:56 PM
Beckham-Feck him! There's a full squad of Irish players not going to the World Cup, let's feel bad for them!
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 15, 2010, 09:13:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 15, 2010, 12:11:48 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on March 14, 2010, 11:31:25 PM

People don't like to see a superstar publicise themselves thesedays and I understand that, but when it came to a battle in his sporting career beckham fronted up to anything that was thrown at him. His season after WC 98 was awesome, standing up to a Galaxy fan, getting back in the England fold, his form in his last season in Madrid. You cant help to feel sorry for the man no matter how many millions he has in the bank.

Bollocks. Absolute bollocks. Magnifies the warped sense of pity people have on this planet. Beckham has a gazillion times more (money/opportunities) than many could dream of in sizeable parts we oft hear about. Grab a bit of perspective ffs.
spot on.
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: Family guy on March 16, 2010, 12:26:31 AM
What about poor la galaxy paying the man millions,and he gets injured playing for another team and out for 6 months now
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: deiseach on March 16, 2010, 09:32:47 AM
With the injuries suffered by two players who have wrapped their reputations in the flag of St St George, the gods of irony are surely setting England up for victory. Rooney playing like a god of soccer helps too, the horrible Bluenose bastard
Title: Re: Becks Out of World Cup
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 16, 2010, 12:55:34 PM
Quote from: Family guy on March 16, 2010, 12:26:31 AM
What about poor la galaxy paying the man millions,and he gets injured playing for another team and out for 6 months now

insurance money - they don't have to pay him