Been alot of banter on here between tyrone & kerry folk as to who is 'team of the decade' so i thought i try and name a team of the decade selection from all counties.
turns out its tougher than i thought!!!!
would anyone outside kerry/tyrone/armagh get in it?
for me there are a few automatic selections to go on it,tomas o'sea,sean cavanagh,gooch,
and then a raft of others that a very good case could be made for
mcgeeney, gormley,canavan,dara osea, jordan, mcdonnell, joyce, s.o'n, oisin, ricey, mcgrane.
Anyone brave enough to have a go at lining a team out?
I hate that expression ... 'the noughties' :(
D O'Keefe (Kerry)
R McMenamin (Tyrone)
S Moyinhan (Kerry)
A Lynch (Cork)
T O Sé (Kerry)
K McGeeney (Armagh)
P Jordan (Tyrone)
P McGrane (Armagh)
D O Sé (Kerry)
C Cooper (Kerry)
C McDonald (Mayo)
S Cavanagh (Tyrone)
S McDonnell (Armagh)
D Browne (Tipperary)
M Forde (Wexford)
I don't really like that half forward line due to the lack of natural half-forwards. Maybe I'm a bit biased on Stevie but I think you can justify him ahead of Stephen O'Neill. You could argue Canavan should be there though he played his best football in the 1990s. Joyce probably should be there as well. Michael Donnellan at the start of the decade would have been as good as any of O Sé, McGrane and Cavanagh, I went for players who've been about for most of the decade (bar Moyinhan). Marc O Sé would have a big shout ahead of Anthony Lynch. Would have liked to have found a place for Colin Corkery whose one of my favourite footballers. Its all very subjective and something no one's ever going to agree on.
Actually been a while since we had one fo these "bext XV" threads. They're usually done to death on the board over the winter months.
1. S Cluxton
2. Ricey
3. G Canty
4. M O Se
5. T o se
6. Geezer
7. P Jordan
8. P McGrane
9.D O Se
10.B Dooher
11.Gooch
12. Sean Cavanagh
13.Steven McDonnell
14. K Donaghy
15. B Coulter
Right heres an attempt anyway: (prob with a slight Tyrone bias)
1.Stephen Cluxton, Dublin
2.Michael McCarthy (Kerry)
3.Conor Gormley (Tyrone)
4.Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone)
5.Tomas O'Se (Kerry)
6.Kieran McGeeney (Armagh)
7.Philip Jordan (Tyrone)
8.Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone)
9.Darragh Ó Sé (Kerry)
10.Brian Dooher (Tyrone)
11.Stephen O'Neill (Tyrone)
12.Michael Donnellan (Galway)
13.Colm Cooper (Kerry)
14.Peter Canavan (Tyrone)
15.Steven McDonnell (armagh)
honourable mentions:
Ciaran McDonald (Mayo)
Brian McGuigan (Tyrone) (tough to leave him out)
Paul McGrane (Armagh)
Seamus Moynihan (Kerry)
Paddy Bradley,( Derry)
Ciaran Whelan, (Dublin)
Paul Galvin (Kerry)
Oisin McConville (Armagh)
Padraic Joyce (Galway)
Declan Meehan (Galway)
As soon as I seen this thread I was wondering how long it would take T O Hare to post to get his Benny agrument in :)
No Lockhart, none of the corner backs named could even lace his boots
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 23, 2009, 03:40:24 PM
D O'Keefe (Kerry)
R McMenamin (Tyrone)
S Moyinhan (Kerry)
A Lynch (Cork)
T O Sé (Kerry)
K McGeeney (Armagh)
P Jordan (Tyrone)
P McGrane (Armagh)
D O Sé (Kerry)
C Cooper (Kerry)
C McDonald (Mayo)
S Cavanagh (Tyrone)
S McDonnell (Armagh)
D Browne (Tipperary)
M Forde (Wexford)
I don't really like that half forward line due to the lack of natural half-forwards. Maybe I'm a bit biased on Stevie but I think you can justify him ahead of Stephen O'Neill. You could argue Canavan should be there though he played his best football in the 1990s. Joyce probably should be there as well. Michael Donnellan at the start of the decade would have been as good as any of O Sé, McGrane and Cavanagh, I went for players who've been about for most of the decade (bar Moyinhan). Marc O Sé would have a big shout ahead of Anthony Lynch. Would have liked to have found a place for Colin Corkery whose one of my favourite footballers. Its all very subjective and something no one's ever going to agree on.
Actually been a while since we had one fo these "bext XV" threads. They're usually done to death on the board over the winter months.
TAC pretty much the exact team I would go for. I would maybe give Cluxton the nod in goals and Joyce would be very, very close to edging out ???
Quote from: Mickey Linden on April 23, 2009, 03:50:02 PM
As soon as I seen this thread I was wondering how long it would take T O Hare to post to get his Benny agrument in :)
First name on the teamsheet ;D ;D stick to giving your crap tips Mickey ;D
Quote from: Mickey Linden on April 23, 2009, 03:50:02 PM
As soon as I seen this thread I was wondering how long it would take T O Hare to post to get his Benny agrument in :)
Any teams with any Down men on them should be immediately disregarded as preposterous. :)
Yeah SML deserves a mention, Muldoon, Doherty and P. Bradley!
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 23, 2009, 04:02:35 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on April 23, 2009, 03:50:02 PM
As soon as I seen this thread I was wondering how long it would take T O Hare to post to get his Benny agrument in :)
Any teams with any Down men on them should be immediately disregarded as preposterous. :)
;D :o :o :o :o :o :D
seems to be a unanimous half back line anyway
T O Sé (Kerry)
K McGeeney (Armagh)
P Jordan (Tyrone)
isnt it good we can all get along ;)
Cluxton
O'Se
Canty
Lynch
O'Se
McGeeney
de Paor
McGrane
O'Se
Dooher
Joyce
Cavanagh
McDonnell
Clarke
Cooper
Lockhart never really did it for me i have to say.
coulter? soeone's having a laugh
Quote from: T O Hare on April 23, 2009, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 23, 2009, 04:02:35 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on April 23, 2009, 03:50:02 PM
As soon as I seen this thread I was wondering how long it would take T O Hare to post to get his Benny agrument in :)
Any teams with any Down men on them should be immediately disregarded as preposterous. :)
;D :o :o :o :o :o :D
Whats the betting T O hare launchs a new thread in a few minutes. Team of the sixties? Picking da and benny in dream teams...Just like Belfast all over again!
Quote from: Mickey Linden on April 23, 2009, 04:11:52 PM
Quote from: T O Hare on April 23, 2009, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 23, 2009, 04:02:35 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on April 23, 2009, 03:50:02 PM
As soon as I seen this thread I was wondering how long it would take T O Hare to post to get his Benny agrument in :)
Any teams with any Down men on them should be immediately disregarded as preposterous. :)
;D :o :o :o :o :o :D
Whats the betting T O hare launchs a new thread in a few minutes. Team of the sixties? Picking da and benny in dream teams...Just like Belfast all over again!
That would be a great thread!!!!! :L :L
Oisin McConville would HAVE to be in this!! He is the top scorer in Ulster history, has won everything there is to win and I would say 80-90% of his scores came in this decade.
Off the top of my head:
Diarmuid Murphy (Kerry)
Marc O'Se (Kerry)
Barry Owens (Fermanagh)
Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone)
Philip Jordan (Tyrone)
Kieran McGeeney (Armagh)
Tomas O'Se (Kerry)
Paul McGrane (Armagh)
Dara O'Se (Kerry)
Oisin McConville (Armagh)
Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone)
Brian Dooher (Tyrone)
Colm Cooper (Kerry)
Steven McDonnell (Armagh)
Peter Canavan (Tyrone)
BENCH:
Ronan Clarke (Armagh)
Dessie Dolan (Westmeath)
Eamon O'Hara (Sligo)
Stephen O'Neill (Tyrone)
Paidi Joyce (Galway)
Graham Canty (Cork)
Alan Brogan (Dublin)
Francois Bellew (Armagh)
Paddy Bradley (Derry)
Declan Meehan (Galway)
Aidan O'Mahony (Kerry)
Conor Gormley (Tyrone)
I'm happy enough here. Obviously Armagh, Tyrone and Kerry dominate but these 3 counties have dominated the decade. But for some tight encounters they could be on 3 All Irelands each and I think my picks reflect this.
owens at full back......
really? :-\
yup!! 2 all stars playing for a middlin at best team (for the majority of the decade). Great under the high ball, confident in possession, great engine. What more do you need??
Quote from: eireogatron on April 23, 2009, 04:19:19 PM
Oisin McConville would HAVE to be in this!! He is the top scorer in Ulster history, has won everything there is to win and I would say 80-90% of his scores came in this decade.
Off the top of my head:
Diarmuid Murphy (Kerry)
Marc O'Se (Kerry)
Barry Owens (Fermanagh)
Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone)
Philip Jordan (Tyrone)
Kieran McGeeney (Armagh)
Tomas O'Se (Kerry)
Paul McGrane (Armagh)
Dara O'Se (Kerry)
Oisin McConville (Armagh)
Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone)
Brian Dooher (Tyrone)
Colm Cooper (Kerry)
Steven McDonnell (Armagh)
Peter Canavan (Tyrone)
BENCH:
Ronan Clarke (Armagh)
Dessie Dolan (Westmeath)
Eamon O'Hara (Sligo)
Stephen O'Neill (Tyrone)
Paidi Joyce (Galway)
Graham Canty (Cork)
Alan Brogan (Dublin)
Francois Bellew (Armagh)
Paddy Bradley (Derry)
Declan Meehan (Galway)
Aidan O'Mahony (Kerry)
Conor Gormley (Tyrone)
I'm happy enough here. Obviously Armagh, Tyrone and Kerry dominate but these 3 counties have dominated the decade. But for some tight encounters they could be on 3 All Irelands each and I think my picks reflect this.
Oisin would not be far away all right, but the majority were from frees which is why the others just sneak past him in my eyes.
Owens? Come on.
Dessie Dolan and Brogan on the bench?
This is my team. Get over it!! I am choosing 15 from the entire inter county roster for the last 9 years!! There will be differences in everyones teams.
Oisin may have scored frees, but he SCORED THEM!! I never subscribe to the notion that frees are not as important as scores from play. They are harder for the most part as you HAVE to score them you are the only man on the field that can do it and the whole county relies on you, the pressure handling and nerve required to do this at that level is remarkable. Also, contributed greatly to all of Cross and Armaghs success from general play. IMO no McConville = no Armagh titles. Thats how important he is.
Owens - outstanding in bad team AT FULL BACK!winner of 2 all stars. I think he's the best about in his position.
Dessie Dolan - led, no - dragged, Westmeath to their first ever championship and is a consistently high scorer
Alan Brogan - 5 Leinster titles or so, Dublins best player, scoring machine.
Any team without Declan Browne lacks credibility in my eyes. Don't think Oisin is that close to be honest. Superb free taker and arguably the best of the decade but in terms of footballing ability, creativity, scoring and general forward play, I'd have 3 Armagh men ahead of him this decade (Marsden, McDonnell and Clarke), never mind the rest of the country.
P McConnell (Tyrone)
McMenamin(Tyrone)
McAnallenn(Tyrone)
Joe McMahon(Tyrone)
Cavlan (Tyrone)
Gormley (Tyrone)
Jordan (Tyrone)
Cavanagh (Tyrone)
McGinley (Tyrone)
Dooher (Tyrone)
Brian McGuigan (Tyrone)
Mellan (Tyrone)
Mulligan (Tyrone)
Canavan (Tyrone)
O'Neill (Tyrone)
Quote from: eireogatron on April 23, 2009, 04:36:17 PM
This is my team. Get over it!! I am choosing 15 from the entire inter county roster for the last 9 years!! There will be differences in everyones teams.
Oisin may have scored frees, but he SCORED THEM!! I never subscribe to the notion that frees are not as important as scores from play. They are harder for the most part as you HAVE to score them you are the only man on the field that can do it and the whole county relies on you, the pressure handling and nerve required to do this at that level is remarkable. Also, contributed greatly to all of Cross and Armaghs success from general play. IMO no McConville = no Armagh titles. Thats how important he is.
Owens - outstanding in bad team AT FULL BACK!winner of 2 all stars. I think he's the best about in his position.
Dessie Dolan - led, no - dragged, Westmeath to their first ever championship and is a consistently high scorer
Alan Brogan - 5 Leinster titles or so, Dublins best player, scoring machine.
as you say there will be differences!!
and all of the above are worthy of a mention ,but wouldnt have any of them in my team, particularly not oisin at the expense of S.O'N
to be fair, i have brogan and dolan picking splinters out of their holes, not on the pitch.
SON soooooooo close but injuries and couple of lean years benched him in my opinion. Undoubtedly the best footballer I've ever seen live though (when flying fit) and scored the 2 best points I've ever seen live in the 05 Ulster Final replay at Croke.
Oisin has outscored every player in Ireland in the 00's and won every accolade both personal and team, club and county. He was indispensable for Armagh from 1997 - 2007 "the glory years". That in mind I dont see who can say that he doesn't merit a place. IMO of course.
Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 23, 2009, 04:41:10 PM
P McConnell (Tyrone)
McMenamin(Tyrone)
McAnallenn(Tyrone)
Joe McMahon(Tyrone)
Cavlan (Tyrone)
Gormley (Tyrone)
Jordan (Tyrone)
Cavanagh (Tyrone)
McGinley (Tyrone)
Dooher (Tyrone)
Brian McGuigan (Tyrone)
Mellan (Tyrone)
Mulligan (Tyrone)
Canavan (Tyrone)
O'Neill (Tyrone)
Cavlan at right half back :P
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 23, 2009, 04:36:59 PM
Any team without Declan Browne lacks credibility in my eyes. Don't think Oisin is that close to be honest. Superb free taker and arguably the best of the decade but in terms of footballing ability, creativity, scoring and general forward play, I'd have 3 Armagh men ahead of him this decade (Marsden, McDonnell and Clarke), never mind the rest of the country.
totally disagree I'm afraid.
Quote from: eireogatron on April 23, 2009, 04:36:17 PM
This is my team. Get over it!! I am choosing 15 from the entire inter county roster for the last 9 years!! There will be differences in everyones teams.
Oisin may have scored frees, but he SCORED THEM!! I never subscribe to the notion that frees are not as important as scores from play. They are harder for the most part as you HAVE to score them you are the only man on the field that can do it and the whole county relies on you, the pressure handling and nerve required to do this at that level is remarkable. Also, contributed greatly to all of Cross and Armaghs success from general play. IMO no McConville = no Armagh titles. Thats how important he is.
Owens - outstanding in bad team AT FULL BACK!winner of 2 all stars. I think he's the best about in his position.
Dessie Dolan - led, no - dragged, Westmeath to their first ever championship and is a consistently high scorer
Alan Brogan - 5 Leinster titles or so, Dublins best player, scoring machine.
Whole point of a discussion board is to discuss, not too tell people to "get over it".
Browne is a certainty. You can not talk about Dolan dragging teams through and then ignore Browne...IMO of course.
Cavlan is in there to win the breaking ball and pluck some from the air. Not Cavanagh or McGinley's strong points I fell.
Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 23, 2009, 05:01:50 PM
Cavlan is in there to win the breaking ball and pluck some from the air. Not Cavanagh or McGinley's strong points I fell.
Did you hurt yourself?
Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 23, 2009, 04:41:10 PM
P McConnell (Tyrone)
McMenamin(Tyrone)
McAnallenn(Tyrone)
Joe McMahon(Tyrone)
Cavlan (Tyrone)
Gormley (Tyrone)
Jordan (Tyrone)
Cavanagh (Tyrone)
McGinley (Tyrone)
Dooher (Tyrone)
Brian McGuigan (Tyrone)
Mellan (Tyrone)
Mulligan (Tyrone)
Canavan (Tyrone)
O'Neill (Tyrone)
Put Chris Lawn full back-Cormac to midfield-Cavanagh to wing half forward and bench Mellon and you're near there. Cavlan not a wing half back tho..throw him in for last 20 minutes as never got full 70 out of him anyway.
Quote from: SidelineKick on April 23, 2009, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 23, 2009, 05:01:50 PM
Cavlan is in there to win the breaking ball and pluck some from the air. Not Cavanagh or McGinley's strong points I fell.
Did you hurt yourself?
To include Cavlan in any "team of the decade" (even a Clarke's one) indicates that there must have been at least a mild form of brain damage
Quote from: tyrone86 on April 23, 2009, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on April 23, 2009, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 23, 2009, 05:01:50 PM
Cavlan is in there to win the breaking ball and pluck some from the air. Not Cavanagh or McGinley's strong points I fell.
Did you hurt yourself?
To include Cavlan in any "team of the decade" (even a Clarke's one) indicates that there must have been at least a mild form of brain damage
:D
Fair point 86, but he was a vital cog to the 03 win.
Quote from: SidelineKick on April 23, 2009, 05:12:41 PM
Quote from: tyrone86 on April 23, 2009, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on April 23, 2009, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 23, 2009, 05:01:50 PM
Cavlan is in there to win the breaking ball and pluck some from the air. Not Cavanagh or McGinley's strong points I fell.
Did you hurt yourself?
To include Cavlan in any "team of the decade" (even a Clarke's one) indicates that there must have been at least a mild form of brain damage
:D
i 'd say he'd make a 'unfulfilled potential team of the decade'
Quote from: Puckoon on April 23, 2009, 05:13:35 PM
Fair point 86, but he was a vital cog to the 03 win.
Certainly was, he scored a real beauty of a point that day, wee baldy fed it out to him. Great to watch.
Quote from: corn02 on April 23, 2009, 04:59:47 PM
Quote from: eireogatron on April 23, 2009, 04:36:17 PM
This is my team. Get over it!! I am choosing 15 from the entire inter county roster for the last 9 years!! There will be differences in everyones teams.
Oisin may have scored frees, but he SCORED THEM!! I never subscribe to the notion that frees are not as important as scores from play. They are harder for the most part as you HAVE to score them you are the only man on the field that can do it and the whole county relies on you, the pressure handling and nerve required to do this at that level is remarkable. Also, contributed greatly to all of Cross and Armaghs success from general play. IMO no McConville = no Armagh titles. Thats how important he is.
Owens - outstanding in bad team AT FULL BACK!winner of 2 all stars. I think he's the best about in his position.
Dessie Dolan - led, no - dragged, Westmeath to their first ever championship and is a consistently high scorer
Alan Brogan - 5 Leinster titles or so, Dublins best player, scoring machine.
Whole point of a discussion board is to discuss, not too tell people to "get over it".
Browne is a certainty. You can not talk about Dolan dragging teams through and then ignore Browne...IMO of course.
fair enough. I was disagreeing about the pecking order some fans have about the Armagh forwards, in particular Oisin, more than Declan Browne to be honest. But I dont have to pick Browne do I? or is it "everyones team of the noughties but must have Declan Browne 15"??
Why does Dolan have to be compared to Browne anyway? The only reason I mentioned Dolan in that post is because I was questioned about his credibility, of which I think he has plenty. I didn't even say Brownes name never mind say he shouldn't be thought of in such high regard which is what appears to be being levelled at me. Are you Declan Browne? If so sorry, but you're not in my team - you are a cracking player though.
The reason I said "get over it" is because a couple of people were giving me stick about one player (Owens) within 2 minutes of me posting, it was not meant to be aggressive or anything , just saying "I have Barry Owens in my team whats the big deal?". I personally think hes the best full back in the country and has been for 5 years, thats why I picked him.
no mention of the bould francie yet :o :o
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 23, 2009, 05:25:06 PM
no mention of the bould francie yet :o :o
Thats cause he is pure dung just like that chap Lawn from Moortown who'll not be ousting wee Ryan Mellan from my side. By the way that Tyrone team would beat any of yours. Just because they would knoe how to play with each other.
Maybe swap Cavlan for McCrossan but he was too hairy for my liking
Time to point out to the Ulster bods that there are counties other than Kerry and Ulster. Also as for Armagh being included as a dominant team of the noughties, there are three other counties who have made as many finals as they have in the noughties.
Keeper, no stand out in this position as say John O'Leary would have in his day. Clucko is as good a shot stopper as there, great at kick-outs, but is but prone to daftness usually associated with a keeper from Roscommon. He has too many All-Stars for my liking but I'll give him the nod due to lack of a real alternative.
1. Stephen Cluxton
Darren Fay is a cert for me along with Sean Marty Lockhart. I like Canty but imagine if Conor McAnallen had the extra years with the current Tyrone team. He gets my vote. Marc O'Sé very unlucky to lose out. Honarable mention to Cathal Daly.
2. SM Lockhart 3. Conor McAnallen 4. Darren Fay
Seamus Moynihan was a better half-back than FB so gets in here as one of the best footballers I've seen. Sean Óg De Paor gets it at LHB with an honourable mention to Anthony Rainbow who soldiered on for years. McGeeney is a cert but you have to mention Jimmy Nallen, Gormley, Cassidy and Tomás Ó'Sé who is top class but I don't rate quite as highly as everyone else seems to.
5. Seamus Moynihan 6. Kieran McGeeney 7. Sean Óg De Paor
Midfield is probably like the keepers in that other decades probably had more quality candidates. O'Hara, Tohill, and McGrane would have shone in any era but I am going for Ó'Sé & Walsh.
8. Dara Ó'Sé 9. Kevin Walsh
Now the real problems start. Any of a large number of players have a case. We can point to great days they all had while detractors can easily point to other days when things went wrong. It comes down to personal preferences and maybe which days you saw more of. I'd have seen more games in the west obviously so McDonald and Joyce are in. Canavan has to be in along with Stevie McDonnell. Gooch has to be there and I'll go back to a young Donnellan for the last place. Forde, Brown, the inimitable Colin Corkery, Dessie Dolan, Ollie Murphy,Stephen O'Neill, Kieran Donaghy, Tommy Freeman and Coulter among others could easily be named on the basis of great performances they have given. But there are only 6 places.
10. M. Donnellan 11. Ciaran McDonald 12 P. Joyce
13. Stevie McDonnell 14. Peter Canavan 15. Gooch Cooper.
This team would be so good it wouldn't need subs.
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 05:50:21 PM
This team would be so good it wouldn't need subs.
:D i like your confidence muppet
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Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 05:50:21 PM
This team would be so good it wouldn't need subs.
:D i like your confidence muppet
Yes but I already see an embarrassing omission in Sean Kavanagh. :-[ :-[ :-[
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 06:04:18 PM
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Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 05:50:21 PM
This team would be so good it wouldn't need subs.
:D i like your confidence muppet
Yes but I already see an embarrassing omission in Sean Kavanagh. :-[ :-[ :-[
right, well whos for the chop then? ??? ??? ???
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 05:50:21 PM
Time to point out to the Ulster bods that there are counties other than Kerry and Ulster. Also as for Armagh being included as a dominant team of the noughties, there are three other counties who have made as many finals as they have in the noughties.
Keeper, no stand out in this position as say John O'Leary would have in his day. Clucko is as good a shot stopper as there, great at kick-outs, but is but prone to daftness usually associated with a keeper from Roscommon. He has too many All-Stars for my liking but I'll give him the nod due to lack of a real alternative.
1. Stephen Cluxton
Darren Fay is a cert for me along with Sean Marty Lockhart. I like Canty but imagine if Conor McAnallen had the extra years with the current Tyrone team. He gets my vote. Marc O'Sé very unlucky to lose out. Honarable mention to Cathal Daly.
2. SM Lockhart 3. Conor McAnallen 4. Darren Fay
Seamus Moynihan was a better half-back than FB so gets in here as one of the best footballers I've seen. Sean Óg De Paor gets it at LHB with an honourable mention to Anthony Rainbow who soldiered on for years. McGeeney is a cert but you have to mention Jimmy Nallen, Gormley, Cassidy and Tomás Ó'Sé who is top class but I don't rate quite as highly as everyone else seems to.
5. Seamus Moynihan 6. Kieran McGeeney 7. Sean Óg De Paor
Midfield is probably like the keepers in that other decades probably had more quality candidates. O'Hara, Tohill, and McGrane would have shone in any era but I am going for Ó'Sé & Walsh.
8. Dara Ó'Sé 9. Kevin Walsh
Now the real problems start. Any of a large number of players have a case. We can point to great days they all had while detractors can easily point to other days when things went wrong. It comes down to personal preferences and maybe which days you saw more of. I'd have seen more games in the west obviously so McDonald and Joyce are in. Canavan has to be in along with Stevie McDonnell. Gooch has to be there and I'll go back to a young Donnellan for the last place. Forde, Brown, the inimitable Colin Corkery, Dessie Dolan, Ollie Murphy,Stephen O'Neill, Kieran Donaghy, Tommy Freeman and Coulter among others could easily be named on the basis of great performances they have given. But there are only 6 places.
10. M. Donnellan 11. Ciaran McDonald 12 P. Joyce
13. Stevie McDonnell 14. Peter Canavan 15. Gooch Cooper.
This team would be so good it wouldn't need subs.
Funny enough muppet, only one poster had a team of just Ulster and Kerry players. You mention 3 other counties who made as many finals as Armagh in the noughties (assume this is not including Kerry & Tyrone). Mayo, Galway and who else?
And speaking of the pot calling the kettle black, your own side is surely a bit too Connacht-centric. 4 players from a Galway side that was past its peak for most of the decade. Agree with you on Fay - to be honest I'd forgotten about him. Would probably have him ahead of Lynch on my team or put Fay at full back and shifting Moyinhan to wing half back, like yourself and Jordan to the subs bench.
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Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 06:04:18 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 23, 2009, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 05:50:21 PM
This team would be so good it wouldn't need subs.
:D i like your confidence muppet
Yes but I already see an embarrassing omission in Sean Kavanagh. :-[ :-[ :-[
right, well whos for the chop then? ??? ??? ???
I'll put Canavan in my 1990s team along with Maurice Fitz. No need for any other players on that team. I'm sure Peter wouldn't mind.
QuoteFunny enough muppet, only one poster had a team of just Ulster and Kerry players. You mention 3 other counties who made as many finals as Armagh in the noughties (assume this is not including Kerry & Tyrone). Mayo, Galway and who else?
And speaking of the pot calling the kettle black, your own side is surely a bit too Connacht-centric. 4 players from a Galway side that was past its peak for most of the decade. Agree with you on Fay - to be honest I'd forgotten about him. Would probably have him ahead of Lynch on my team or put Fay at full back and shifting Moyinhan to wing half back, like yourself and Jordan to the subs bench
It was the dominance of Ulster and Kerry players rather than a team picked exclusively from them. Realistically you could argue for a team picked from just Tyrone and Kerry but I personally wouldn't go down that route any more than I think all-stars should only come from the finalists.
I explained why I was going to pick Connacht players, simply because I've seen more of their good days. You are free to disagree with that and I won't be offended. At the start of the 2000s Galway were the main challenger to Kerry dominance. As for final appearances, brain fart I though Cork had made two appearances like the others but one of them was 1999.
Tyronies
Kindly f**k off back to your own county thread. We're not interested.
Kindest regards
Quote from: Tim Buzaglo on April 23, 2009, 06:29:00 PM
Tyronies
Kindly f**k off back to your own county thread. We're not interested.
Kindest regards
whats your problem tim?
This is not a tyrone thread, it just happens that alot of people from all counties have selected tyrone players in their team.
There have been many posters from differnet counties on here.
if your not interested, f**k off back to your own county thread with out leaving pointless comments ::)
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 05:50:21 PM
Time to point out to the Ulster bods that there are counties other than Kerry and Ulster. Also as for Armagh being included as a dominant team of the noughties, there are three other counties who have made as many finals as they have in the noughties.
Keeper, no stand out in this position as say John O'Leary would have in his day. Clucko is as good a shot stopper as there, great at kick-outs, but is but prone to daftness usually associated with a keeper from Roscommon. He has too many All-Stars for my liking but I'll give him the nod due to lack of a real alternative.
1. Stephen Cluxton
Darren Fay is a cert for me along with Sean Marty Lockhart. I like Canty but imagine if Conor McAnallen had the extra years with the current Tyrone team. He gets my vote. Marc O'Sé very unlucky to lose out. Honarable mention to Cathal Daly.
2. SM Lockhart 3. Conor McAnallen 4. Darren Fay
Seamus Moynihan was a better half-back than FB so gets in here as one of the best footballers I've seen. Sean Óg De Paor gets it at LHB with an honourable mention to Anthony Rainbow who soldiered on for years. McGeeney is a cert but you have to mention Jimmy Nallen, Gormley, Cassidy and Tomás Ó'Sé who is top class but I don't rate quite as highly as everyone else seems to.
5. Seamus Moynihan 6. Kieran McGeeney 7. Sean Óg De Paor
Midfield is probably like the keepers in that other decades probably had more quality candidates. O'Hara, Tohill, and McGrane would have shone in any era but I am going for Ó'Sé & Walsh.
8. Dara Ó'Sé 9. Kevin Walsh
Now the real problems start. Any of a large number of players have a case. We can point to great days they all had while detractors can easily point to other days when things went wrong. It comes down to personal preferences and maybe which days you saw more of. I'd have seen more games in the west obviously so McDonald and Joyce are in. Canavan has to be in along with Stevie McDonnell. Gooch has to be there and I'll go back to a young Donnellan for the last place. Forde, Brown, the inimitable Colin Corkery, Dessie Dolan, Ollie Murphy,Stephen O'Neill, Kieran Donaghy, Tommy Freeman and Coulter among others could easily be named on the basis of great performances they have given. But there are only 6 places.
10. M. Donnellan 11. Ciaran McDonald 12 P. Joyce
13. Stevie McDonnell 14. Peter Canavan 15. Gooch Cooper.
This team would be so good it wouldn't need subs.
Thats a great team muppet -but its very much early 00s.
Who is this Conor McAnallen fella?
Cormac sorry. :-[
Getting a bit of the Jack Charltons nowadays. Might be more fun that way.
Cluxton
Ryan McMenamin
Darren Fay
Sean Marty Lockhart
Tomas O'Se
Kieran McGeeney
Philip Jordan
Darragh O'Se
Sean Cavanagh
Brian Dooher
Declan Browne
Stephen O'Neill
Peter Canavan
Stevie McDonnell
Gooch
Hard to leave out Moynihan and McAnallen in particular from the defence.
Midfield could easily have picked McGrane, Fergal Doc, maybe even Tohill if your talking early 2000's! But like the combination of O'Se's fielding and Cavanagh's running.
The forwards are a nightmare to pick and could easily have picked another 10 in the front 6. Easily. For example Ciaran McDonald, Padraig Joyce, Paddy Bradley, Ronan Clarke, Oisin McConville, Brian McGuigan, Ollie Murphy, Michael Donnellan and I've probably forgotten a few others. I wouldnt argue with any of these names in the front 6.
Its strange that more Kerry men dont stand out considering their 4 all-irelands in the decade. Rightly or wrongly the cakewalk finals of 04, 06 and 07 influence my judgement and to be fair I'm probably biased towards Ulster :). But I think theres something in this as Muppet only picked 3 Kerry men also.
Anyone else think the Kingdom deserve more?
Quote from: Puckoon on April 23, 2009, 06:47:13 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 05:50:21 PM
Time to point out to the Ulster bods that there are counties other than Kerry and Ulster. Also as for Armagh being included as a dominant team of the noughties, there are three other counties who have made as many finals as they have in the noughties.
Keeper, no stand out in this position as say John O'Leary would have in his day. Clucko is as good a shot stopper as there, great at kick-outs, but is but prone to daftness usually associated with a keeper from Roscommon. He has too many All-Stars for my liking but I'll give him the nod due to lack of a real alternative.
1. Stephen Cluxton
Darren Fay is a cert for me along with Sean Marty Lockhart. I like Canty but imagine if Conor McAnallen had the extra years with the current Tyrone team. He gets my vote. Marc O'Sé very unlucky to lose out. Honarable mention to Cathal Daly.
2. SM Lockhart 3. Conor McAnallen 4. Darren Fay
Seamus Moynihan was a better half-back than FB so gets in here as one of the best footballers I've seen. Sean Óg De Paor gets it at LHB with an honourable mention to Anthony Rainbow who soldiered on for years. McGeeney is a cert but you have to mention Jimmy Nallen, Gormley, Cassidy and Tomás Ó'Sé who is top class but I don't rate quite as highly as everyone else seems to.
5. Seamus Moynihan 6. Kieran McGeeney 7. Sean Óg De Paor
Midfield is probably like the keepers in that other decades probably had more quality candidates. O'Hara, Tohill, and McGrane would have shone in any era but I am going for Ó'Sé & Walsh.
8. Dara Ó'Sé 9. Kevin Walsh
Now the real problems start. Any of a large number of players have a case. We can point to great days they all had while detractors can easily point to other days when things went wrong. It comes down to personal preferences and maybe which days you saw more of. I'd have seen more games in the west obviously so McDonald and Joyce are in. Canavan has to be in along with Stevie McDonnell. Gooch has to be there and I'll go back to a young Donnellan for the last place. Forde, Brown, the inimitable Colin Corkery, Dessie Dolan, Ollie Murphy,Stephen O'Neill, Kieran Donaghy, Tommy Freeman and Coulter among others could easily be named on the basis of great performances they have given. But there are only 6 places.
10. M. Donnellan 11. Ciaran McDonald 12 P. Joyce
13. Stevie McDonnell 14. Peter Canavan 15. Gooch Cooper.
This team would be so good it wouldn't need subs.
Thats a great team muppet -but its very much early 00s.
It is biased towards the early part of the decade alright.
I challenge you to pick a better team made up of players who played in 2005, 2006, 2007 or 2008!
You simply cannot have McMenamin ahead of Gormley.
Mattie forde deserves a mention lad...if only for putting an end to francies county career.
Forde wouldn't be within an asses roar of a 00's team.
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 23, 2009, 06:44:50 PM
Quote from: Tim Buzaglo on April 23, 2009, 06:29:00 PM
Tyronies
Kindly f**k off back to your own county thread. We're not interested.
Kindest regards
whats your problem tim?
This is not a tyrone thread, it just happens that alot of people from all counties have selected tyrone players in their team.
There have been many posters from differnet counties on here.
if your not interested, f**k off back to your own county thread with out leaving pointless comments ::)
My problem is the attempted hijack of a decent thread. Back on track now thankfully. Post HoopedDefenders team on your own thread and slabber away all you want
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 07:34:12 PM
Thats a great team muppet -but its very much early 00s.
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It is biased towards the early part of the decade alright.
I challenge you to pick a better team made up of players who played in 2005, 2006, 2007 or 2008!
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That might be tough, youve claimed cluxton and O'Se, McDonnell, Gooch and McGeeney!
1. Pascal McConnell.
2. Marc O'Se
3. Conor Gormley
4. Anthony Lynch
5. Aiden O'Mahoney
6. Ryan McMenamin
7. Phillip Jordan
8. Paul McGrane
9. Sean Cavanagh
10. Brian Dooher
11. Brian McGuigan
12. Declan O'Sullivan
13. Alan Brogan
14. Stephen O'Neill
15. Ronan Clarke
I think its conclusive that my team would beat yours. From left half back to right corner forward there is too much scoring power.
To think I had to leave out the likes of Brown, Bradley, Donaghy, Mulligan. McConnell is in there for lack of a more obvious option. I struggled for a long time with CHB, but figured McMenamain was the man to geth under McDonalds skin, and drive back scoring a rake of points in the second half. Im looking forward bvery much to the battle between De Paor and Dooher. But O'Neill and Clarke are going to destroy your full back line.
I think you win a few head to head battles, the most noticeably being the classical roles of the number 6s, but I think in that game, McMenamin would be more effective.
So whats the wager?
EDIT: Ive just realised I might get cleaned out in the full back line. :(
whars the next decade called?
2010 - onesies
2020 - dueces
2030 - tripsies and so on.
1.Stephen Cluxton (Dublin)
2.Francie Bellew (Armagh)
3.Graham Canty (Cork)
4.Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone)
5.Seamus Moynihan (Kerry)
6.Kieran McGeeney (Armagh)
7.Seán Óg de Paor (Galway)
8.Darragh Ó Sé (Kerry)
9.Paul McGrane (Armagh)
10.Brian Dooher (Tyrone)
11.Seán Cavanagh (Tyrone)
12.Óisín McConville (Armagh)
13.Colm Cooper (Kerry)
14.Stephen O'Neill (Tyrone)
15.Peter Canavan (Tyrone)
Why have you McMenamin above Gormley - have you lads any notion of the game at all?
well i had both in, but if i had to choose would prob go for gormley too
Fair point.
No Finlay or Freeman?? ::)
For what its worth:
1. No one springs to mind.
2 M Ó Sé
3 P Christie
4 M McCarthy
5 P Jordan
6 A O'Mahony
7 T Ó Sé
8 D Ó Sé
9 S Cavanagh
10 S McDonnell
11 P Joyce
12 B Dooher
13 C Cooper
14 D Browne
15 M Forde.
Have taken a few liberties in moving players around in various positions. The shoe ins were Cooper, Dara Ó Sé, Stevie Mc D, Tomás Ó Sé and Cavanagh.
Tried very hard to squeeze Paul Galvin into the team but just couldn't do it.
Cluxton
Sean Marty
Moynihan
Marc O'Se
T O'Se
Geezer
Gormley
D O'Se
Cavanagh
Gooch
Ciaran Mc
Browne
Canavan
Joyce
Stevie from Killeavy
Fay and Corkery were tough to omit but played their best stuff in the 90s. Stevie O'Neill or Brian McGuigan would have made it had injuries not hampered them.
You are all one year too early lads! ;)
Good man Puckoon. This is what discussion boards are supposed to be about.
1. Stephen Cluxton 1. Pascal McConnell
2. SM Lockhart 2. Marc Ó'Sé
3. C McAnallen 3. Conor Gormley
4. D. Fay 4. A. Lynch
5. S. Moynihan 5. A. O'Mahoney
6. K. McGeeney 6. R. McMenamin
7. S. Óg De Paor 7. P. Jordan
8. D Ó'Sé 8. P. McGrane
9. K. Walsh 9. S. Kavanagh
10. M. Donnellan 10. B. Dooher
11. C. McDonald 11. B. McGuigan
12. P. Joyce 12. D. O'Sullivan
13. S. McDonnell 13. A. Brogan
14. P. Canavan 14. S.O'Neill
15. Gooch 15. R. Clarke
Very hard to call that game. Keepers very good.I think my entire defence would be ahead. Midfield I'm open to persuasion. I'm from the west so my half forward line, on their day, are as good as it gets. That is not to ignore McGuigan's obvious class and O'Sullivan's part in destroying Mayo in 15 minutes twice. Every team needs a Dooher, but my team seems to know how to deal with him. I have never seen him play well against us.
Full forward line, I blundered by forgetting Kavanagh but even Tyronies won't ague against PTG. Stevie and Gooch, what can you say? Having said that Ronan Clarke would be top of my transfer list, if it was allowed and Mayo would really love if Alan Brogan moved to his relatives in Knockmore but I would have him CHF now that supermac has left us.
Who'd ref the above game though?
Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 23, 2009, 05:30:13 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 23, 2009, 05:25:06 PM
no mention of the bould francie yet :o :o
Thats cause he is pure dung just like that chap Lawn from Moortown who'll not be ousting wee Ryan Mellan from my side. By the way that Tyrone team would beat any of yours. Just because they would knoe how to play with each other.
Maybe swap Cavlan for McCrossan but he was too hairy for my liking
Are you for real? ::)
Yes Francie was crap. I remember a young man called Sean Cavanagh left him sprawled on the Croke Park turf in 2005 legs akimbo like a cheap whore.
Quote from: Canalman on April 23, 2009, 11:21:23 PM
For what its worth:
1. No one springs to mind.
2 M Ó Sé
3 P Christie
4 M McCarthy
5 P Jordan
6 A O'Mahony
7 T Ó Sé
8 D Ó Sé
9 S Cavanagh
10 S McDonnell
11 P Joyce
12 B Dooher
13 C Cooper
14 D Browne
15 M Forde.
Have taken a few liberties in moving players around in various positions. The shoe ins were Cooper, Dara Ó Sé, Stevie Mc D, Tomás Ó Sé and Cavanagh.
Tried very hard to squeeze Paul Galvin into the team but just couldn't do it.
Any team without McGenney cannot be taken seriously.
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 24, 2009, 10:33:07 AM
Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 23, 2009, 05:30:13 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 23, 2009, 05:25:06 PM
no mention of the bould francie yet :o :o
Thats cause he is pure dung just like that chap Lawn from Moortown who'll not be ousting wee Ryan Mellan from my side. By the way that Tyrone team would beat any of yours. Just because they would knoe how to play with each other.
Maybe swap Cavlan for McCrossan but he was too hairy for my liking
Are you for real? ::)
I'm talking about you calling Lawn 'pure dung'- Jees! In 2002 he was Tyrone's best player by a mile and when Canavan got an All Star he said Lawn should have got it. Heroic when he came on in 2005 final. Great player and gave so much to Tyrone football and you call him 'dung'! ???
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 24, 2009, 10:48:54 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 24, 2009, 10:33:07 AM
Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 23, 2009, 05:30:13 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 23, 2009, 05:25:06 PM
no mention of the bould francie yet :o :o
Thats cause he is pure dung just like that chap Lawn from Moortown who'll not be ousting wee Ryan Mellan from my side. By the way that Tyrone team would beat any of yours. Just because they would knoe how to play with each other.
Maybe swap Cavlan for McCrossan but he was too hairy for my liking
Are you for real? ::)
He's from Moortown enough said.
I'm talking about you calling Lawn 'pure dung'- Jees! In 2002 he was Tyrone's best player by a mile and when Canavan got an All Star he said Lawn should have got it. Heroic when he came on in 2005 final. Great player and gave so much to Tyrone football and you call him 'dung'! ???
Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 24, 2009, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 24, 2009, 10:48:54 AM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 24, 2009, 10:33:07 AM
Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 23, 2009, 05:30:13 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 23, 2009, 05:25:06 PM
no mention of the bould francie yet :o :o
Thats cause he is pure dung just like that chap Lawn from Moortown who'll not be ousting wee Ryan Mellan from my side. By the way that Tyrone team would beat any of yours. Just because they would knoe how to play with each other.
Maybe swap Cavlan for McCrossan but he was too hairy for my liking
Are you for real? ::)
He's from Moortown enough said.
I'm talking about you calling Lawn 'pure dung'- Jees! In 2002 he was Tyrone's best player by a mile and when Canavan got an All Star he said Lawn should have got it. Heroic when he came on in 2005 final. Great player and gave so much to Tyrone football and you call him 'dung'! ???
Wat the f** is that reply? Do you understand how use this board.
He is not getting on my team because he is from Moortown
OK! :D I thought I had another Mike Sheehy on my hands there for a minute!
someone posting pascal mcconnell's name in this thread has rendered it redundant
Someone posting with a picture of an eastern european soccer player wearing a manchester united top as their profile picture makes this thread redundant
1. Stephen Cluxton
2. Conor Gormley 3. Paddy Christie 4. John Keane
5. Tomás O'Sé 6. Kieran McGeeney 7. Sean Óg De Paor
8. Dara Ó'Sé 9. Seán Cavanagh
10. M. Donnellan 11. P. Joyce 12 Brian Dooher
13. Stephen O'Neill 14. Peter Canavan 15. Gooch Cooper
Surprised no one has even mentioned double All Star, corner back specialist JK. 12 was probably the hardest position to fill, went for Dooher as he's probably defined the role this decade...
1. James Reily
2. Conor Gormley
3. Seamus Moynihan
4. Marc O Se
5.Tomas O Se
6. Kieran McGeeney
7. Philip Jordan
8. Sean Cavanagh
9. Dara O Se
10. Brian Dooher
11. Michael Donnellan
12. Oisin McConville
13. Gooch
14. Joyce
15. Stevie Mac
CornO2, imo while McGeaney was a very good footballer, he was an integral part of a well drilled (and multimanned) defensive unit. As for the best no. 6 of the decade I just don't think so. To say my team is not to be taken seriously because I chose O'Mahony ahead of him is just silly and petulant.
Why not just agree to differ?
Quote from: Canalman on April 24, 2009, 01:07:28 PM
CornO2, imo while McGeaney was a very good footballer, he was an integral part of a well drilled (and multimanned) defensive unit. As for the best no. 6 of the decade I just don't think so. To say my team is not to be taken seriously because I chose O'Mahony ahead of him is just silly and petulant.
Why not just agree to differ?
Because i'm an argumentitive f**ker!
But, honestly, McGenney should be a cert on everybody's team.
Quote from: Hoopeddefender on April 24, 2009, 11:17:51 AM
Someone posting with a picture of an eastern european soccer player wearing a manchester united top as their profile picture makes this thread redundant
Let us see your avatar then smart arse?
Quote from: Canalman on April 24, 2009, 01:07:28 PM
CornO2, imo while McGeaney was a very good footballer, he was an integral part of a well drilled (and multimanned) defensive unit. As for the best no. 6 of the decade I just don't think so. To say my team is not to be taken seriously because I chose O'Mahony ahead of him is just silly and petulant.
Why not just agree to differ?
How many of the noughties did Kieran play in? An easier way of asking the question I suppose would be when did he retire?
at the start of last year i believe, or very end of 07 after Grimley didn't get the Armagh job whatever way you want to look at it.
This calls for a poll!
Quote from: ludermor on April 24, 2009, 02:00:50 PM
This calls for a poll!
there ye go.
(http://www.worldcupblog.org/files/2008/10/graham-poll-with-cards.jpg)
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on April 24, 2009, 12:22:21 PM
1. Stephen Cluxton
2. Conor Gormley 3. Paddy Christie 4. John Keane
5. Tomás O'Sé 6. Kieran McGeeney 7. Sean Óg De Paor
8. Dara Ó'Sé 9. Seán Cavanagh
10. M. Donnellan 11. P. Joyce 12 Brian Dooher
13. Stephen O'Neill 14. Peter Canavan 15. Gooch Cooper
Surprised no one has even mentioned double All Star, corner back specialist JK. 12 was probably the hardest position to fill, went for Dooher as he's probably defined the role this decade...
Dooher!
how hard was that ???!an automatic i would have thought!
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 06:11:25 PM
I'll put Canavan in my 1990s team along with Maurice Fitz. No need for any other players on that team. I'm sure Peter wouldn't mind.
In a previous thread on this subject I listed a team without Canavan. My kneecaps are only recently after growing back.
It made me come to the conclusion that there's 5 players that are practically certainties on everyone's team:
P Joyce, S Moynihan, S Kavanagh, C Cooper, D Ó Sé. These 5 would be the shortlist for player of the decade.
The next 4 are close to certainties:
P Canavan, B Dooher, T O Sé, S McDonnell. A case could be made for these to be included in the player of the decade shortlist.
Kieran McGeeney isnt in your top 9 players? What? :o
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 24, 2009, 02:04:38 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on April 24, 2009, 12:22:21 PM
1. Stephen Cluxton
2. Conor Gormley 3. Paddy Christie 4. John Keane
5. Tomás O'Sé 6. Kieran McGeeney 7. Sean Óg De Paor
8. Dara Ó'Sé 9. Seán Cavanagh
10. M. Donnellan 11. P. Joyce 12 Brian Dooher
13. Stephen O'Neill 14. Peter Canavan 15. Gooch Cooper
Surprised no one has even mentioned double All Star, corner back specialist JK. 12 was probably the hardest position to fill, went for Dooher as he's probably defined the role this decade...
Dooher!
how hard was that ???!an automatic i would have thought!
Automatic? No! Not the most skillful of players but certainly makes the most of his talents. Was ran very close by Galvin, Declan O'Sullivan, Brogan, Browne, McDonnell, Dolan and Forde.
Totally agree with you C na HÉ....... my team selection was a toss up between Galvin and Dooher.... with Dooher shading it.
Alot of sacred cowlike opinions about Ulster players around which heaven forbid should ever be disagreed with.
Quote from: blanketattack on April 24, 2009, 02:44:50 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2009, 06:11:25 PM
I'll put Canavan in my 1990s team along with Maurice Fitz. No need for any other players on that team. I'm sure Peter wouldn't mind.
In a previous thread on this subject I listed a team without Canavan. My kneecaps are only recently after growing back.
It made me come to the conclusion that there's 5 players that are practically certainties on everyone's team:
P Joyce, S Moynihan, S Kavanagh, C Cooper, D Ó Sé. These 5 would be the shortlist for player of the decade.
The next 4 are close to certainties:
P Canavan, B Dooher, T O Sé, S McDonnell. A case could be made for these to be included in the player of the decade shortlist.
2 really great players but would they not have arguable played their best stuff in the 90's?although same could prob be said of peter
Quote from: muppet on April 24, 2009, 01:31:02 AM
Good man Puckoon. This is what discussion boards are supposed to be about.
1. Stephen Cluxton 1. Pascal McConnell
2. SM Lockhart 2. Marc Ó'Sé
3. C McAnallen 3. Conor Gormley
4. D. Fay 4. A. Lynch
5. S. Moynihan 5. A. O'Mahoney
6. K. McGeeney 6. R. McMenamin
7. S. Óg De Paor 7. P. Jordan
8. D Ó'Sé 8. P. McGrane
9. K. Walsh 9. S. Kavanagh
10. M. Donnellan 10. B. Dooher
11. C. McDonald 11. B. McGuigan
12. P. Joyce 12. D. O'Sullivan
13. S. McDonnell 13. A. Brogan
14. P. Canavan 14. S.O'Neill
15. Gooch 15. R. Clarke
Very hard to call that game. Keepers very good.I think my entire defence would be ahead. Midfield I'm open to persuasion. I'm from the west so my half forward line, on their day, are as good as it gets. That is not to ignore McGuigan's obvious class and O'Sullivan's part in destroying Mayo in 15 minutes twice. Every team needs a Dooher, but my team seems to know how to deal with him. I have never seen him play well against us.
Full forward line, I blundered by forgetting Kavanagh but even Tyronies won't ague against PTG. Stevie and Gooch, what can you say? Having said that Ronan Clarke would be top of my transfer list, if it was allowed and Mayo would really love if Alan Brogan moved to his relatives in Knockmore but I would have him CHF now that supermac has left us.
Who'd ref the above game though?
I think head to head you generally got the best players picked early, but, in terms of how the teams would play against their opponent (not their direct equivalent) I think it would be a belter. As logical as it sounds, we would just have to go out and try to outscore you - thered be little sense in defending.
Pat McEaneany would be my choice (cos Ive more ulster bies and he'd give us more frees).
How great would it have been to see De paor and Dooher and Donnellan and Jordan going at it.
ahh jesus muppet don't let mc eaneny ref it whatever you do
All stars are for individual years of brilliance my team actually defines the decade and those who achieved consistently over a few years within the decade. Positions are along the 6.
1Stephen Cluxton
2. Conor Gormley 3. Seamus Moynihan 4. Marc o se
5. Tomás O'Sé 6. Kieran McGeeney 7. Philip Jordan
8. Dara Ó'Sé 9. Seán Cavanagh
10. Declan O Sullivan 11. P Joyce 12 Brian Dooher
13. Stephen O'Neill 14. Peter Canavan 15. Gooch Cooper
Id love to have put ciaran Donaghy in (as an honoury Tyrone man) or Paul Mc Grane or Stevie Mc Donnell, but Ive put in players who probably had the most impact on the most all irelands won this decade. Joyces impact in 2001 was maybe enough. Any team omitting Moynihan loses a little for me. Canavan was on the wane this decade but still marshalled a team to their first all ireland and their new era and gets it as he was undoubtedly the greatest footballer that ever kicked a pigs bladder and that includes the so called team of the millenium. I think Declan O sullivan just ahead of Mc Guigan and the rest but the firts name on my team sheet was Brian Dooher to me the player of the decade and a fabulous example to any youngster learning the game.