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Not long after "Myles Na G" started posting, something stirred in whatever it is passes for a brain of yours to cause you to conclude that MNG was actually me, posting under another identity. You have since repeated this assertion a number of times on various threads, invariably accompanied by smilies, winks and digs of various sorts etc, indicating that you clearly feel proud of yourself for your little "discovery".

And naturally enough, when both I and MNG denied it - well, "we would say that, wouldn't we" - further "proof" of just what a duplicitous bunch "themmuns" really are.

Of course, it is rarely easy to prove a negative, especially over the internet. I suppose we could post photos of ourselves, but hey, that might work for Decommissioning(!), but I don't suppose ypu'd accept the photos as genuine, would you? And it would be a bit of a coincidence if we both had mutual friends who could vouch that we both post separately on this Board - at least friends whose word you'd be prepared to accept. And we should hardly have to disclose our real identities publicly, even on the sayso of one so wise and perceptive as you, Lynchbhoy.

So how to prove it, eh?

Well, as it happens, not so long after your "scoop", some pretty conclusive evidence happened to present itself, in one of those serendipidous coincidences which occur from time to time, though I chose not to let on straightaway (to see how long you'd go on gloating over your "revelation").

You see, on the Ogra Sinn Fein/Narrow Water thread from last month, these three posts (below) appeared in succession:




1.    
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #119 on: January 15, 2009, 06:47:27 PM »
   
Quote from: carribbear on January 15, 2009, 05:36:30 PM
I still don't understand why you're on a GAA board in the first place.
Since certain people seem obsessed with who I am, rather than what I think, I have had to explain more than once that I have several reasons for being a member of this Board.

Now so long as I conform to the rules etc, I don't see why I should have to explain them to you or anyone else (much less justify them). But since you ask, one of the chief reasons is to be found here:
www.onesmallstepcampaign.org

2.
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #120 on: January 15, 2009, 06:47:48 PM »
A few points. I think I said I have 'a passing interest' in GAA. If anyone can show me a post in which I've claimed to be a massive GAA fan, or indeed, a GAA fan at all, I'll eat my boxer shorts. I said that I played gaelic football as a youngster, both at school and for a club. Both these claims are true. I also happen to be a Celtic supporter. Big deal. I mentioned these things, and the fact that I'm from a Catholic / nationalist background, only in response to taunts from clampits like Carribbear - a true bigot if ever there was one - about my support for Rangers / Linfield / Geordie Seawright/ DUP etc etc. I've no objection to being called a unionist other than that it is factually incorrect. I've been called a liar on here for no other reason that people cannot accept that someone from a Catholic background can be critical of militant Irish republicanism. It doesn't fit with their carefully constructed world picture, therefore I must be telling porkies. Seriously, people, a wee bit of self reflection wouldn't go amiss.

3.
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #121 on: January 15, 2009, 06:48:35 PM »
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 15, 2009, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: carribbear on January 15, 2009, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on January 15, 2009, 04:14:45 PM
[
After all, if someone like Myles Na G can generate such suspicion, even hostility, there's not much hope for someone like me!  Cheesy


Never a truer word said, I still don't understand why you're on a GAA board in the first place.
to p**s people off , get thrown off and be able to complain and whinge back to his sectarian soccer shower that the GAA fans are as bad as they are perhaps ?

There's no flies on you, that's for sure... Roll Eyes




Note the times of those posts, Lynchbhoy. Now note that the first was posted by a certain "Evil Genius", the second by "Myles Na G" and the third by "Evil Genius"...

Now I may be Evil, I may even be a Genius, but not even I am able to log on as EG, post, log off; log on again as MNG, post, log off; then log on again and post as EG, all in the space of one minute and eight seconds.

Unless, of course, you think I'm really Doctor Who, maybe? You know, use my Sonic Screwdriver to pause the old Space/Time Continuum for a few minutes whilst I whisk around in (cyber)space in my Tardis?

So, back to you, Lynchbhoy - explain that one to me. You may enlist the aid of the Mods on this one, if you like...

Little Jack Horner sat in a Corner,
Eating his Pudding and Pie*,
He stuck in his Thumb,
And pulled out a Plum,
Saying 'Oh What a Good Bhoy Am I !'

* - Humble Pie in future, Jack Lynchbhoy?

2 PCs?

You could be logged under the both names at the same time, using different browsers so there's holes in that argument.

Just for the record, I don't think you're Myles Na G.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 01, 2009, 09:20:09 PM
Not long after "Myles Na G" started posting, something stirred in whatever it is passes for a brain of yours to cause you to conclude that MNG was actually me, posting under another identity. You have since repeated this assertion a number of times on various threads, invariably accompanied by smilies, winks and digs of various sorts etc, indicating that you clearly feel proud of yourself for your little "discovery".

And naturally enough, when both I and MNG denied it - well, "we would say that, wouldn't we" - further "proof" of just what a duplicitous bunch "themmuns" really are.

Of course, it is rarely easy to prove a negative, especially over the internet. I suppose we could post photos of ourselves, but hey, that might work for Decommissioning(!), but I don't suppose ypu'd accept the photos as genuine, would you? And it would be a bit of a coincidence if we both had mutual friends who could vouch that we both post separately on this Board - at least friends whose word you'd be prepared to accept. And we should hardly have to disclose our real identities publicly, even on the sayso of one so wise and perceptive as you, Lynchbhoy.

So how to prove it, eh?

Well, as it happens, not so long after your "scoop", some pretty conclusive evidence happened to present itself, in one of those serendipidous coincidences which occur from time to time, though I chose not to let on straightaway (to see how long you'd go on gloating over your "revelation").

You see, on the Ogra Sinn Fein/Narrow Water thread from last month, these three posts (below) appeared in succession:




1.    
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #119 on: January 15, 2009, 06:47:27 PM »
   
Quote from: carribbear on January 15, 2009, 05:36:30 PM
I still don't understand why you're on a GAA board in the first place.
Since certain people seem obsessed with who I am, rather than what I think, I have had to explain more than once that I have several reasons for being a member of this Board.

Now so long as I conform to the rules etc, I don't see why I should have to explain them to you or anyone else (much less justify them). But since you ask, one of the chief reasons is to be found here:
www.onesmallstepcampaign.org

2.
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #120 on: January 15, 2009, 06:47:48 PM »
A few points. I think I said I have 'a passing interest' in GAA. If anyone can show me a post in which I've claimed to be a massive GAA fan, or indeed, a GAA fan at all, I'll eat my boxer shorts. I said that I played gaelic football as a youngster, both at school and for a club. Both these claims are true. I also happen to be a Celtic supporter. Big deal. I mentioned these things, and the fact that I'm from a Catholic / nationalist background, only in response to taunts from clampits like Carribbear - a true bigot if ever there was one - about my support for Rangers / Linfield / Geordie Seawright/ DUP etc etc. I've no objection to being called a unionist other than that it is factually incorrect. I've been called a liar on here for no other reason that people cannot accept that someone from a Catholic background can be critical of militant Irish republicanism. It doesn't fit with their carefully constructed world picture, therefore I must be telling porkies. Seriously, people, a wee bit of self reflection wouldn't go amiss.

3.
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #121 on: January 15, 2009, 06:48:35 PM »
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 15, 2009, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: carribbear on January 15, 2009, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on January 15, 2009, 04:14:45 PM
[
After all, if someone like Myles Na G can generate such suspicion, even hostility, there's not much hope for someone like me!  Cheesy


Never a truer word said, I still don't understand why you're on a GAA board in the first place.
to p**s people off , get thrown off and be able to complain and whinge back to his sectarian soccer shower that the GAA fans are as bad as they are perhaps ?

There's no flies on you, that's for sure... Roll Eyes




Note the times of those posts, Lynchbhoy. Now note that the first was posted by a certain "Evil Genius", the second by "Myles Na G" and the third by "Evil Genius"...

Now I may be Evil, I may even be a Genius, but not even I am able to log on as EG, post, log off; log on again as MNG, post, log off; then log on again and post as EG, all in the space of one minute and eight seconds.

Unless, of course, you think I'm really Doctor Who, maybe? You know, use my Sonic Screwdriver to pause the old Space/Time Continuum for a few minutes whilst I whisk around in (cyber)space in my Tardis?

So, back to you, Lynchbhoy - explain that one to me. You may enlist the aid of the Mods on this one, if you like...

Little Jack Horner sat in a Corner,
Eating his Pudding and Pie*,
He stuck in his Thumb,
And pulled out a Plum,
Saying 'Oh What a Good Bhoy Am I !'

* - Humble Pie in future, Jack Lynchbhoy?

Maybe you were logged on to two computers in the house at once.  :D :D

EDIT: Guess I'm a bit late with that response. ::)

Hardstation is right.

You take yourself way too seriously EG.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 01, 2009, 09:20:09 PM
Not long after "Myles Na G" started posting, something stirred in whatever it is passes for a brain of yours to cause you to conclude that MNG was actually me, posting under another identity. You have since repeated this assertion a number of times on various threads, invariably accompanied by smilies, winks and digs of various sorts etc, indicating that you clearly feel proud of yourself for your little "discovery".

And naturally enough, when both I and MNG denied it - well, "we would say that, wouldn't we" - further "proof" of just what a duplicitous bunch "themmuns" really are.

Of course, it is rarely easy to prove a negative, especially over the internet. I suppose we could post photos of ourselves, but hey, that might work for Decommissioning(!), but I don't suppose ypu'd accept the photos as genuine, would you? And it would be a bit of a coincidence if we both had mutual friends who could vouch that we both post separately on this Board - at least friends whose word you'd be prepared to accept. And we should hardly have to disclose our real identities publicly, even on the sayso of one so wise and perceptive as you, Lynchbhoy.

So how to prove it, eh?

Well, as it happens, not so long after your "scoop", some pretty conclusive evidence happened to present itself, in one of those serendipidous coincidences which occur from time to time, though I chose not to let on straightaway (to see how long you'd go on gloating over your "revelation").

You see, on the Ogra Sinn Fein/Narrow Water thread from last month, these three posts (below) appeared in succession:




1.    
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #119 on: January 15, 2011, 06:47:27 PM »
   
Quote from: carribbear on January 15, 2011, 05:36:30 PM
I still don't understand why you're on a GAA board in the first place.
Since certain people seem obsessed with who I am, rather than what I think, I have had to explain more than once that I have several reasons for being a member of this Board.

Now so long as I conform to the rules etc, I don't see why I should have to explain them to you or anyone else (much less justify them). But since you ask, one of the chief reasons is to be found here:
www.onesmallstepcampaign.org

2.
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #120 on: January 15, 2011, 06:47:27 PM »
A few points. I think I said I have 'a passing interest' in GAA. If anyone can show me a post in which I've claimed to be a massive GAA fan, or indeed, a GAA fan at all, I'll eat my boxer shorts. I said that I played gaelic football as a youngster, both at school and for a club. Both these claims are true. I also happen to be a Celtic supporter. Big deal. I mentioned these things, and the fact that I'm from a Catholic / nationalist background, only in response to taunts from clampits like Carribbear - a true bigot if ever there was one - about my support for Rangers / Linfield / Geordie Seawright/ DUP etc etc. I've no objection to being called a unionist other than that it is factually incorrect. I've been called a liar on here for no other reason that people cannot accept that someone from a Catholic background can be critical of militant Irish republicanism. It doesn't fit with their carefully constructed world picture, therefore I must be telling porkies. Seriously, people, a wee bit of self reflection wouldn't go amiss.

3.
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #121 on: January 15, 2011, 06:47:27 PM »
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 15, 2011, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: carribbear on January 15, 2011, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on January 15, 2011, 04:14:45 PM
[
After all, if someone like Myles Na G can generate such suspicion, even hostility, there's not much hope for someone like me!  Cheesy


Never a truer word said, I still don't understand why you're on a GAA board in the first place.
to p**s people off , get thrown off and be able to complain and whinge back to his sectarian soccer shower that the GAA fans are as bad as they are perhaps ?

There's no flies on you, that's for sure... Roll Eyes




Note the times of those posts, Lynchbhoy. Now note that the first was posted by a certain "Evil Genius", the second by "Myles Na G" and the third by "Evil Genius"...

Now I may be Evil, I may even be a Genius, but not even I am able to log on as EG, post, log off; log on again as MNG, post, log off; then log on again and post as EG, all in the space of one minute and eight seconds.

Unless, of course, you think I'm really Doctor Who, maybe? You know, use my Sonic Screwdriver to pause the old Space/Time Continuum for a few minutes whilst I whisk around in (cyber)space in my Tardis?

So, back to you, Lynchbhoy - explain that one to me. You may enlist the aid of the Mods on this one, if you like...

Little Jack Horner sat in a Corner,
Eating his Pudding and Pie*,
He stuck in his Thumb,
And pulled out a Plum,
Saying 'Oh What a Good Bhoy Am I !'

* - Humble Pie in future, Jack Lynchbhoy?

I see they actually posted at exactly the same time, 2 years into the future  ;)

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 01, 2009, 09:20:09 PM
Not long after "Myles Na G" started posting, something stirred in whatever it is passes for a brain of yours to cause you to conclude that MNG was actually me, posting under another identity. You have since repeated this assertion a number of times on various threads, invariably accompanied by smilies, winks and digs of various sorts etc, indicating that you clearly feel proud of yourself for your little "discovery".

And naturally enough, when both I and MNG denied it - well, "we would say that, wouldn't we" - further "proof" of just what a duplicitous bunch "themmuns" really are.

Of course, it is rarely easy to prove a negative, especially over the internet. I suppose we could post photos of ourselves, but hey, that might work for Decommissioning(!), but I don't suppose ypu'd accept the photos as genuine, would you? And it would be a bit of a coincidence if we both had mutual friends who could vouch that we both post separately on this Board - at least friends whose word you'd be prepared to accept. And we should hardly have to disclose our real identities publicly, even on the sayso of one so wise and perceptive as you, Lynchbhoy.

So how to prove it, eh?

Well, as it happens, not so long after your "scoop", some pretty conclusive evidence happened to present itself, in one of those serendipidous coincidences which occur from time to time, though I chose not to let on straightaway (to see how long you'd go on gloating over your "revelation").

You see, on the Ogra Sinn Fein/Narrow Water thread from last month, these three posts (below) appeared in succession:




1.    
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #119 on: January 15, 2009, 06:47:27 PM »
   
Quote from: carribbear on January 15, 2009, 05:36:30 PM
I still don't understand why you're on a GAA board in the first place.
Since certain people seem obsessed with who I am, rather than what I think, I have had to explain more than once that I have several reasons for being a member of this Board.

Now so long as I conform to the rules etc, I don't see why I should have to explain them to you or anyone else (much less justify them). But since you ask, one of the chief reasons is to be found here:
www.onesmallstepcampaign.org

2.
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #120 on: January 15, 2009, 06:47:48 PM »
A few points. I think I said I have 'a passing interest' in GAA. If anyone can show me a post in which I've claimed to be a massive GAA fan, or indeed, a GAA fan at all, I'll eat my boxer shorts. I said that I played gaelic football as a youngster, both at school and for a club. Both these claims are true. I also happen to be a Celtic supporter. Big deal. I mentioned these things, and the fact that I'm from a Catholic / nationalist background, only in response to taunts from clampits like Carribbear - a true bigot if ever there was one - about my support for Rangers / Linfield / Geordie Seawright/ DUP etc etc. I've no objection to being called a unionist other than that it is factually incorrect. I've been called a liar on here for no other reason that people cannot accept that someone from a Catholic background can be critical of militant Irish republicanism. It doesn't fit with their carefully constructed world picture, therefore I must be telling porkies. Seriously, people, a wee bit of self reflection wouldn't go amiss.

3.
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #121 on: January 15, 2009, 06:48:35 PM »
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 15, 2009, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: carribbear on January 15, 2009, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on January 15, 2009, 04:14:45 PM
[
After all, if someone like Myles Na G can generate such suspicion, even hostility, there's not much hope for someone like me!  Cheesy


Never a truer word said, I still don't understand why you're on a GAA board in the first place.
to p**s people off , get thrown off and be able to complain and whinge back to his sectarian soccer shower that the GAA fans are as bad as they are perhaps ?

There's no flies on you, that's for sure... Roll Eyes




Note the times of those posts, Lynchbhoy. Now note that the first was posted by a certain "Evil Genius", the second by "Myles Na G" and the third by "Evil Genius"...

Now I may be Evil, I may even be a Genius, but not even I am able to log on as EG, post, log off; log on again as MNG, post, log off; then log on again and post as EG, all in the space of one minute and eight seconds.

Unless, of course, you think I'm really Doctor Who, maybe? You know, use my Sonic Screwdriver to pause the old Space/Time Continuum for a few minutes whilst I whisk around in (cyber)space in my Tardis?

So, back to you, Lynchbhoy - explain that one to me. You may enlist the aid of the Mods on this one, if you like...

Little Jack Horner sat in a Corner,
Eating his Pudding and Pie*,
He stuck in his Thumb,
And pulled out a Plum,
Saying 'Oh What a Good Bhoy Am I !'

* - Humble Pie in future, Jack Lynchbhoy?

You went to some effort there EG. Why?

Guilt

He probably arrange both username's posts like that so he could make this thread.

Is Evil Genius actually Lynchbhoy arguing with himself?

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 01, 2009, 09:20:09 PM
Not long after "Myles Na G" started posting, something stirred in whatever it is passes for a brain of yours to cause you to conclude that MNG was actually me, posting under another identity. You have since repeated this assertion a number of times on various threads, invariably accompanied by smilies, winks and digs of various sorts etc, indicating that you clearly feel proud of yourself for your little "discovery".

And naturally enough, when both I and MNG denied it - well, "we would say that, wouldn't we" - further "proof" of just what a duplicitous bunch "themmuns" really are.

Of course, it is rarely easy to prove a negative, especially over the internet. I suppose we could post photos of ourselves, but hey, that might work for Decommissioning(!), but I don't suppose ypu'd accept the photos as genuine, would you? And it would be a bit of a coincidence if we both had mutual friends who could vouch that we both post separately on this Board - at least friends whose word you'd be prepared to accept. And we should hardly have to disclose our real identities publicly, even on the sayso of one so wise and perceptive as you, Lynchbhoy.

So how to prove it, eh?

Well, as it happens, not so long after your "scoop", some pretty conclusive evidence happened to present itself, in one of those serendipidous coincidences which occur from time to time, though I chose not to let on straightaway (to see how long you'd go on gloating over your "revelation").

You see, on the Ogra Sinn Fein/Narrow Water thread from last month, these three posts (below) appeared in succession:




1.    
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #119 on: January 15, 2009, 06:47:27 PM »
   
Quote from: carribbear on January 15, 2009, 05:36:30 PM
I still don't understand why you're on a GAA board in the first place.
Since certain people seem obsessed with who I am, rather than what I think, I have had to explain more than once that I have several reasons for being a member of this Board.

Now so long as I conform to the rules etc, I don't see why I should have to explain them to you or anyone else (much less justify them). But since you ask, one of the chief reasons is to be found here:
www.onesmallstepcampaign.org

2.
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #120 on: January 15, 2009, 06:47:48 PM »
A few points. I think I said I have 'a passing interest' in GAA. If anyone can show me a post in which I've claimed to be a massive GAA fan, or indeed, a GAA fan at all, I'll eat my boxer shorts. I said that I played gaelic football as a youngster, both at school and for a club. Both these claims are true. I also happen to be a Celtic supporter. Big deal. I mentioned these things, and the fact that I'm from a Catholic / nationalist background, only in response to taunts from clampits like Carribbear - a true bigot if ever there was one - about my support for Rangers / Linfield / Geordie Seawright/ DUP etc etc. I've no objection to being called a unionist other than that it is factually incorrect. I've been called a liar on here for no other reason that people cannot accept that someone from a Catholic background can be critical of militant Irish republicanism. It doesn't fit with their carefully constructed world picture, therefore I must be telling porkies. Seriously, people, a wee bit of self reflection wouldn't go amiss.

3.
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #121 on: January 15, 2009, 06:48:35 PM »
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 15, 2009, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: carribbear on January 15, 2009, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on January 15, 2009, 04:14:45 PM
[
After all, if someone like Myles Na G can generate such suspicion, even hostility, there's not much hope for someone like me!  Cheesy


Never a truer word said, I still don't understand why you're on a GAA board in the first place.
to p**s people off , get thrown off and be able to complain and whinge back to his sectarian soccer shower that the GAA fans are as bad as they are perhaps ?

There's no flies on you, that's for sure... Roll Eyes




Note the times of those posts, Lynchbhoy. Now note that the first was posted by a certain "Evil Genius", the second by "Myles Na G" and the third by "Evil Genius"...

Now I may be Evil, I may even be a Genius, but not even I am able to log on as EG, post, log off; log on again as MNG, post, log off; then log on again and post as EG, all in the space of one minute and eight seconds.

Unless, of course, you think I'm really Doctor Who, maybe? You know, use my Sonic Screwdriver to pause the old Space/Time Continuum for a few minutes whilst I whisk around in (cyber)space in my Tardis?

So, back to you, Lynchbhoy - explain that one to me. You may enlist the aid of the Mods on this one, if you like...

Little Jack Horner sat in a Corner,
Eating his Pudding and Pie*,
He stuck in his Thumb,
And pulled out a Plum,
Saying 'Oh What a Good Bhoy Am I !'

* - Humble Pie in future, Jack Lynchbhoy?

Just quoting this again, don't mind me.

Quote from: Stalin on February 01, 2009, 10:02:41 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 01, 2009, 09:20:09 PM
Not long after "Myles Na G" started posting, something stirred in whatever it is passes for a brain of yours to cause you to conclude that MNG was actually me, posting under another identity. You have since repeated this assertion a number of times on various threads, invariably accompanied by smilies, winks and digs of various sorts etc, indicating that you clearly feel proud of yourself for your little "discovery".

And naturally enough, when both I and MNG denied it - well, "we would say that, wouldn't we" - further "proof" of just what a duplicitous bunch "themmuns" really are.

Of course, it is rarely easy to prove a negative, especially over the internet. I suppose we could post photos of ourselves, but hey, that might work for Decommissioning(!), but I don't suppose ypu'd accept the photos as genuine, would you? And it would be a bit of a coincidence if we both had mutual friends who could vouch that we both post separately on this Board - at least friends whose word you'd be prepared to accept. And we should hardly have to disclose our real identities publicly, even on the sayso of one so wise and perceptive as you, Lynchbhoy.

So how to prove it, eh?

Well, as it happens, not so long after your "scoop", some pretty conclusive evidence happened to present itself, in one of those serendipidous coincidences which occur from time to time, though I chose not to let on straightaway (to see how long you'd go on gloating over your "revelation").

You see, on the Ogra Sinn Fein/Narrow Water thread from last month, these three posts (below) appeared in succession:




1.    
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #119 on: January 15, 2009, 06:47:27 PM »
   
Quote from: carribbear on January 15, 2009, 05:36:30 PM
I still don't understand why you're on a GAA board in the first place.
Since certain people seem obsessed with who I am, rather than what I think, I have had to explain more than once that I have several reasons for being a member of this Board.

Now so long as I conform to the rules etc, I don't see why I should have to explain them to you or anyone else (much less justify them). But since you ask, one of the chief reasons is to be found here:
www.onesmallstepcampaign.org

2.
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #120 on: January 15, 2009, 06:47:48 PM »
A few points. I think I said I have 'a passing interest' in GAA. If anyone can show me a post in which I've claimed to be a massive GAA fan, or indeed, a GAA fan at all, I'll eat my boxer shorts. I said that I played gaelic football as a youngster, both at school and for a club. Both these claims are true. I also happen to be a Celtic supporter. Big deal. I mentioned these things, and the fact that I'm from a Catholic / nationalist background, only in response to taunts from clampits like Carribbear - a true bigot if ever there was one - about my support for Rangers / Linfield / Geordie Seawright/ DUP etc etc. I've no objection to being called a unionist other than that it is factually incorrect. I've been called a liar on here for no other reason that people cannot accept that someone from a Catholic background can be critical of militant Irish republicanism. It doesn't fit with their carefully constructed world picture, therefore I must be telling porkies. Seriously, people, a wee bit of self reflection wouldn't go amiss.

3.
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #121 on: January 15, 2009, 06:48:35 PM »
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 15, 2009, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: carribbear on January 15, 2009, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on January 15, 2009, 04:14:45 PM
[
After all, if someone like Myles Na G can generate such suspicion, even hostility, there's not much hope for someone like me!  Cheesy


Never a truer word said, I still don't understand why you're on a GAA board in the first place.
to p**s people off , get thrown off and be able to complain and whinge back to his sectarian soccer shower that the GAA fans are as bad as they are perhaps ?

There's no flies on you, that's for sure... Roll Eyes




Note the times of those posts, Lynchbhoy. Now note that the first was posted by a certain "Evil Genius", the second by "Myles Na G" and the third by "Evil Genius"...

Now I may be Evil, I may even be a Genius, but not even I am able to log on as EG, post, log off; log on again as MNG, post, log off; then log on again and post as EG, all in the space of one minute and eight seconds.

Unless, of course, you think I'm really Doctor Who, maybe? You know, use my Sonic Screwdriver to pause the old Space/Time Continuum for a few minutes whilst I whisk around in (cyber)space in my Tardis?

So, back to you, Lynchbhoy - explain that one to me. You may enlist the aid of the Mods on this one, if you like...

Little Jack Horner sat in a Corner,
Eating his Pudding and Pie*,
He stuck in his Thumb,
And pulled out a Plum,
Saying 'Oh What a Good Bhoy Am I !'

* - Humble Pie in future, Jack Lynchbhoy?

Just quoting this again, don't mind me.

Stalin not like you to to encourage inefficient practices!

Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2009, 10:07:38 PM

Quote from: Stalin on February 01, 2009, 10:02:41 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 01, 2009, 09:20:09 PM
Not long after "Myles Na G" started posting, something stirred in whatever it is passes for a brain of yours to cause you to conclude that MNG was actually me, posting under another identity. You have since repeated this assertion a number of times on various threads, invariably accompanied by smilies, winks and digs of various sorts etc, indicating that you clearly feel proud of yourself for your little "discovery".

And naturally enough, when both I and MNG denied it - well, "we would say that, wouldn't we" - further "proof" of just what a duplicitous bunch "themmuns" really are.

Of course, it is rarely easy to prove a negative, especially over the internet. I suppose we could post photos of ourselves, but hey, that might work for Decommissioning(!), but I don't suppose ypu'd accept the photos as genuine, would you? And it would be a bit of a coincidence if we both had mutual friends who could vouch that we both post separately on this Board - at least friends whose word you'd be prepared to accept. And we should hardly have to disclose our real identities publicly, even on the sayso of one so wise and perceptive as you, Lynchbhoy.

So how to prove it, eh?

Well, as it happens, not so long after your "scoop", some pretty conclusive evidence happened to present itself, in one of those serendipidous coincidences which occur from time to time, though I chose not to let on straightaway (to see how long you'd go on gloating over your "revelation").

You see, on the Ogra Sinn Fein/Narrow Water thread from last month, these three posts (below) appeared in succession:




1.    
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #119 on: January 15, 2009, 06:47:27 PM »
   
Quote from: carribbear on January 15, 2009, 05:36:30 PM
I still don't understand why you're on a GAA board in the first place.
Since certain people seem obsessed with who I am, rather than what I think, I have had to explain more than once that I have several reasons for being a member of this Board.

Now so long as I conform to the rules etc, I don't see why I should have to explain them to you or anyone else (much less justify them). But since you ask, one of the chief reasons is to be found here:
www.onesmallstepcampaign.org

2.
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #120 on: January 15, 2009, 06:47:48 PM »
A few points. I think I said I have 'a passing interest' in GAA. If anyone can show me a post in which I've claimed to be a massive GAA fan, or indeed, a GAA fan at all, I'll eat my boxer shorts. I said that I played gaelic football as a youngster, both at school and for a club. Both these claims are true. I also happen to be a Celtic supporter. Big deal. I mentioned these things, and the fact that I'm from a Catholic / nationalist background, only in response to taunts from clampits like Carribbear - a true bigot if ever there was one - about my support for Rangers / Linfield / Geordie Seawright/ DUP etc etc. I've no objection to being called a unionist other than that it is factually incorrect. I've been called a liar on here for no other reason that people cannot accept that someone from a Catholic background can be critical of militant Irish republicanism. It doesn't fit with their carefully constructed world picture, therefore I must be telling porkies. Seriously, people, a wee bit of self reflection wouldn't go amiss.

3.
Re: Ogra Sinn Fein and their Commemoration at Narrow Water
« Reply #121 on: January 15, 2009, 06:48:35 PM »
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 15, 2009, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: carribbear on January 15, 2009, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on January 15, 2009, 04:14:45 PM
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After all, if someone like Myles Na G can generate such suspicion, even hostility, there's not much hope for someone like me!  Cheesy


Never a truer word said, I still don't understand why you're on a GAA board in the first place.
to p**s people off , get thrown off and be able to complain and whinge back to his sectarian soccer shower that the GAA fans are as bad as they are perhaps ?

There's no flies on you, that's for sure... Roll Eyes




Note the times of those posts, Lynchbhoy. Now note that the first was posted by a certain "Evil Genius", the second by "Myles Na G" and the third by "Evil Genius"...

Now I may be Evil, I may even be a Genius, but not even I am able to log on as EG, post, log off; log on again as MNG, post, log off; then log on again and post as EG, all in the space of one minute and eight seconds.

Unless, of course, you think I'm really Doctor Who, maybe? You know, use my Sonic Screwdriver to pause the old Space/Time Continuum for a few minutes whilst I whisk around in (cyber)space in my Tardis?

So, back to you, Lynchbhoy - explain that one to me. You may enlist the aid of the Mods on this one, if you like...

Little Jack Horner sat in a Corner,
Eating his Pudding and Pie*,
He stuck in his Thumb,
And pulled out a Plum,
Saying 'Oh What a Good Bhoy Am I !'

* - Humble Pie in future, Jack Lynchbhoy?

Just quoting this again, don't mind me.

Stalin not like you to to encourage inefficient practices!

;D

might as well quote it again while im at it here.

Quit it ffs, that's downright annoying.

Boys lighten up. I'm actually everyone who has posted on this thread.

Just for the record, EG, I don't think you're me either.  8)
But then I would say that, wouldn't I?  ;)
Come to think of it, so would you.  :-\  :o

Stalin got sent to the naughty step.  :P (Bet you never heard that at school!)

Quote from: Jimmy Joe on February 01, 2009, 10:02:08 PM
Is Evil Genius actually Lynchbhoy arguing with himself?

Jaysus that would be the most severe case of schizophrenia known to man :o

There's only two Andy Gorams, only two Andy Gorams :P

Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on February 01, 2009, 10:55:48 PM
There's only two Andy Gorams, only two Andy Gorams :P

LMAO  :D

Seems to be quite common among that lot

Can ye not just ask the mods to prove it.
A look at the ip addresses would do it.

Quote from: nifan on February 02, 2009, 09:45:42 AM
Can ye not just ask the mods to prove it.
A look at the ip addresses would do it.

Not necessarily.

I think we should ask GSpain to settle it once and for all.

It seems unlikely that he would always ensure to use 2 different machines when posting with 2 aliases, or that if he has a primary machine, ie a work machine for example he would never have any cross over.

who really gives a flying f**k ::)

Quote from: Jimmy Joe on February 01, 2009, 10:02:08 PM
Is Evil Genius actually Lynchbhoy arguing with himself?

:D :D :D...LB where are you at...come out of the corner :D :D...fighting. :P...my hero :D :D

Quote from: Drumanee 1 on February 02, 2009, 11:07:10 AM
who really gives a flying f**k ::)

Generally I dont, but every thread that EG or Myles post in has now become bogged down with "witty" insinuations about them being the same person, followed by denials etc etc etc

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Having met both EG and Lynchboy, I can confirm that the latter doesn't sit in a corner consuming puddings and pies..at least he doesn't do so while imbibing ale in the Gresham on Wednesdays at tea time ;D

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 01, 2009, 09:20:09 PM
Not long after "Myles Na G" started posting, something stirred in whatever it is passes for a brain of yours to cause you to conclude that MNG was actually me, posting under another identity.

The bit in bold is very dissapointing, its a pity that people cant have a good old fashioned disagreement these days without somebody throwing personal insults.

I've been accused of being another poster a few times, I found it quite funny.

Lighten up a bit, remember its nice to be nice!   :)

Quote from: T Fearon on February 02, 2009, 01:12:45 PM
Having met...    ...EG

Really? Well I'm fcuked if I remember it!  ???

It seems it's not just Lynchbhoy who gets confused easily.

"Nurse, nurse, I think Fearon has toppled out of bed and hit his head again"  :o

He's stalking you EG, didn't you know ;)

Quote from: ziggysego on February 02, 2009, 03:59:25 PM
He's stalking you EG, didn't you know ;)

Jaysus, I thought that was just a particularly long eclipse of the sun... :o

 Theres a lot of pent up sexual frustration on this thread,
Are some of you not getting any from the Missus???

Quote from: his holiness nb on February 02, 2009, 01:53:47 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 01, 2009, 09:20:09 PM
Not long after "Myles Na G" started posting, something stirred in whatever it is passes for a brain of yours to cause you to conclude that MNG was actually me, posting under another identity.

The bit in bold is very dissapointing, its a pity that people cant have a good old fashioned disagreement these days without somebody throwing personal insults.

"Dissapointing" [sic], eh? Sounds like an epithet carefully chosen to make a point without yourself committing the very "offence" you're accusing me of.

Why did you feel the need to let the world know of your "dissapointment"? Do you imagine that Lynchbhoy cannot speak for himself? Or might it be that you're attempting to goad me into an intemperate reply and get me banned?  ::)

Anyhow, here's the deal. If you don't like what I post, then feel free to report me to the Mods. Alternatively, why not adhere properly to your (former) "self-denying ordinance" not to "engage" with me?

P.S. When others direct personal comments towards me, as frequently happens, don't bother to take them up on it. Oh I forgot, you don't... :o

Quote from: his holiness nb on February 02, 2009, 01:53:47 PM

I've been accused of being another poster a few times, I found it quite funny.

I thought you were another poster? I am.

Dont think I've ever been accused of being another poster which is a little disappointing. 

I was accused of being a woman though, gay as well I think, infertile and a list of obscenities. 

Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 02, 2009, 06:54:39 PM
Dont think I've ever been accused of being another poster which is a little disappointing. 

I was accused of being a woman though, gay as well I think, infertile and a list of obscenities. 

Now POG being gay is neither an accusation nor an obseneity, being a woman however  :D :D :D

Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 02, 2009, 06:54:39 PM
Dont think I've ever been accused of being another poster which is a little disappointing. 

I was accused of being a woman though, gay as well I think, infertile and a list of obscenities. 

You're EG.

Quote from: his holiness nb on February 02, 2009, 01:53:47 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 01, 2009, 09:20:09 PM
Not long after "Myles Na G" started posting, something stirred in whatever it is passes for a brain of yours to cause you to conclude that MNG was actually me, posting under another identity.

The bit in bold is very dissapointing, its a pity that people cant have a good old fashioned disagreement these days without somebody throwing personal insults.

I've been accused of being another poster a few times, I found it quite funny.

Lighten up a bit, remember its nice to be nice!   :)

would agree with you HH
while evil myles seems to have a fixation with myself (obv has gone off Tony  ;)) I dont think that his 'personal' insults are clever or witty.
as for the other usual suspect(s) that I have 'bitchslapped' on here also jumping into to have a sly (yet ineffectual) dig  - this is no suprise !


anyhow, to foobar yer argument, being rom the IT realm, its handy enough with a decent knowledge of unix/linux to mask yer IP address and send from implied IP etc. Prob other track covering aspects have been done, its farily obv that these little girls get overheated regarding themselves on here and yes really take themselves seriously.
Certainly more than enough to play these silly wee games, and worse still to start up a whole thread dedicated to my good self.
Should I be honoured? Sorry , just cant stop laughing!
:D :D

What kept ya lynchboy??  :D

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 02, 2009, 10:52:40 PM

Quote from: his holiness nb on February 02, 2009, 01:53:47 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 01, 2009, 09:20:09 PM
Not long after "Myles Na G" started posting, something stirred in whatever it is passes for a brain of yours to cause you to conclude that MNG was actually me, posting under another identity.

The bit in bold is very dissapointing, its a pity that people cant have a good old fashioned disagreement these days without somebody throwing personal insults.

I've been accused of being another poster a few times, I found it quite funny.

Lighten up a bit, remember its nice to be nice!   :)

would agree with you HH
while evil myles seems to have a fixation with myself (obv has gone off Tony  ;)) I dont think that his 'personal' insults are clever or witty.
as for the other usual suspect(s) that I have 'bitchslapped' on here also jumping into to have a sly (yet ineffectual) dig  - this is no suprise !


anyhow, to foobar yer argument, being rom the IT realm, its handy enough with a decent knowledge of unix/linux to mask yer IP address and send from implied IP etc. Prob other track covering aspects have been done, its farily obv that these little girls get overheated regarding themselves on here and yes really take themselves seriously.
Certainly more than enough to play these silly wee games, and worse still to start up a whole thread dedicated to my good self.
Should I be honoured? Sorry , just cant stop laughing!
:D :D

Jesus Lynchboy it's time the doc upped your dosage, the paranoia is getting to you. How in god's name could anyone be bothered with that shite to assume two usernames for no gain whatsoever.

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 02, 2009, 10:52:40 PM
anyhow, to foobar yer argument, being rom the IT realm, its handy enough with a decent knowledge of unix/linux to mask yer IP address and send from implied IP etc. Prob other track covering aspects have been done, its farily obv that these little girls get overheated regarding themselves on here and yes really take themselves seriously.

As far as I am aware EG isnt from a technical background though i could be wrong.

do you think that he has gone to the trouble of ip masking etc every time he has sent from both accounts, from any machine.
Handy that once again youd assume a NSA grade cover up than have any potential for being wrong :D
paranoid much :o

What you are saying Nifan, because EG is maybe technically backward his alibi  (which is full of holes) has merit ???


How does Hardstation do it? and he sounds pretty retarded  ;D

My laptop has one ip adress and the desktop has another.
one ip is assigned automatically and the other ip is assigned manually.

No Main Street I am questioning whether eg would be capable of IP masking as LB is suggesting - that is using linux to change the header of tcp/ip packets to appear to come from a different machine.

Anyone else think EG should lighten up a bit?

I think it is fairly obvious who EG is. He paid me a visit one day ;)

Are you sayin EG is mac?
Id be very surprised - Ive met mac on a number of occasions, and im pretty certain it isnt he.

I don't think EG is Myles naG. I don't think he is mac either. I'm 99% sure he is Spartacus. Lynchboy is without doubt The Pope. You't want to see the eating he gave me before about my being the anti christ. For the record I am Myles the Slasher, a 17th century Irish rebel.

I can testify that EG is a technical gimp. I once helped him out with some very basic IT info on OWC (how to switch off his computer or something like that) - and he didn't even have the manners to thank me  :-\

Quote from: Donagh on February 03, 2009, 10:25:24 AM
I can testify that EG is a technical gimp. I once helped him out with some very basic IT info on OWC (how to switch off his computer or something like that) - and he didn't even have the manners to thank me  :-\

So  IP spoofing can probably be ruled out.

Quote from: nifan on February 03, 2009, 10:59:10 AM
So  IP spoofing can probably be ruled out.

IP spoofing yes, but...

So EG is not MNG or Mac but from previous posts its seems he is an infertile, backward, gay woman gimp with a fixation on Lynchboy.

LB, you lucky boy  :D :D

Ah, Holy Smokes, Boys and Girls!

Things are starting to unwind here, or the thick is starting to plotten, as a colourful TD from my part of the country would often say.
Just keep in mind that a few incautious remarks by Long Paddy Flynn on the Late Late one night was to lead to Bertie having to take his snout out of the trough and collect his P45 on the way out the door.
He brought a lot of other high rollers with him, so who knows what is going to be revealed if the accusations and counter accusations keep flying about here?
For starters, I know EG is really EG.
He told me so himself and I just couldn't imagine that he'd be pass himself off as anyone else.
{Jaysuus, that's a scary thought; imagine another EG loose in the wild. I doubt if MaAfee and AVG combined could stop that one!] ;D
But at this stage of the continuing fallout he is suspected of being both Myles and Mac.
Myles? Well, I dunno.  I don't know enough about him to know for certain if he is EG or not. He definitely seems like a wannabee EG but I could be wrong. Or could I? I feel as if I'm missing something here.
But there are others I'd be suspicious about; yes, schizophrenia is running wild on gaaboard.com
Did anyone else ever cop that O'Neill and Hardstation just have to be the same poster? I can't understand either of them at times and Hardstation admits he has loads of aliases.
I'll definitely get the mods to check that one out.
While I'm at it, I'd wager that Zap and Pints just have to be one and the same; two sane individuals couldn't have the same view of Irish history, could they?
Leave poor EG alone; there are worse than him about!
There are plenty of other cases of double and even treble identity nutters about.
Who am I?
I'm not too sure any more... ;D

I'm Spartacus!!

Quote from: nifan on February 03, 2009, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: Donagh on February 03, 2009, 10:25:24 AM
I can testify that EG is a technical gimp. I once helped him out with some very basic IT info on OWC (how to switch off his computer or something like that) - and he didn't even have the manners to thank me  :-\

So  IP spoofing can probably be ruled out.

yer doing yer best but again it still comes short

theres always the 'dil into work' option that will again mask your IP address to take up one assigned to your workplace etc
there are commerical oferings etc

and as evil myles  ;) has taken up so much time trying to whinge about this in his opening post, then do you not think that as 'they' could be bothered to do that, then they could be equally as hapless to do more ...

anyhow 'methinks she doth protest too much' !
:D

Quote from: ziggysego on February 02, 2009, 10:57:22 PM
What kept ya lynchboy??  :D

was in galway at a meeting all day yesterday!

Quote from: Spirit of 94 on February 03, 2009, 11:09:13 AM
So EG is not MNG or Mac but from previous posts its seems he is an infertile, backward, gay woman gimp with a fixation on Lynchboy.

LB, you lucky boy  :D :D

looks that way alright  :o

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 02, 2009, 05:29:58 PM
"Dissapointing" [sic], eh? Sounds like an epithet carefully chosen to make a point without yourself committing the very "offence" you're accusing me of.

Thats exactly what it was EG. I wanted to make my point without being insulting.
Surely there nothing wrong with that?  :-\

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 02, 2009, 05:29:58 PM
Why did you feel the need to let the world know of your "dissapointment"? Do you imagine that Lynchbhoy cannot speak for himself? Or might it be that you're attempting to goad me into an intemperate reply and get me banned?  ::)

Ok EG, calm down, I said I was dissapointed at the personal comment, and reminded you that its nice to be nice. Thats all. If I wanted to goad you into an angry reply to get you banned, I could have done a lot better than that.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 02, 2009, 05:29:58 PM
Anyhow, here's the deal. If you don't like what I post, then feel free to report me to the Mods.

Just because a comment dissapoints me, doesnt mean I think its worthy of a report to the mods EG. I have no intention of reporting you for that.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 02, 2009, 05:29:58 PM
Alternatively, why not adhere properly to your (former) "self-denying ordinance" not to "engage" with me?

Because I changed my mind about that, surely no great scandal. I find you too fascinating a character to simply ignore. That said, I have done my best to stay polite and avoid the nasty stuff when doing so. Which I have maintained, and will maintain, whether or not you do the same.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 02, 2009, 05:29:58 PM
P.S. When others direct personal comments towards me, as frequently happens, don't bother to take them up on it. Oh I forgot, you don't... :o

Of course I dont, I'm hardly going to jump to the defense of somebody who had been banned more than once for posts directed at me. No more that I would expect you to defend me.

I've said it before EG, theres no need for this, all I did was to say the comment was dissapointing. Which in my opinion, it was. Whether or not you think the comment is relevant is your business, doesnt mean I dont have the right to express it on that particular thread.

I havent been insulting, nor will I. I have no intentions with feuding with you. But that does not mean I should be afraid to criticise something you say.

So just relax EG, stop making every comment I make towards you into another petty squabble. Lifes to short.
There no reason why we cant politely disagree with things on here without fighting, is there?  :-\

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 03, 2009, 12:24:18 PM

Quote from: nifan on February 03, 2009, 10:59:10 AM
So  IP spoofing can probably be ruled out.

yer doing yer best but again it still comes short

Im answering your point about using unix/linux skills to ip mask.
Thats different than saying he dialed in to a work account.

Your certain its the same person, yet you have zero proof, so you can are already claiming hes covered his tracks without even knowing if there is an ip match, or even a subrange match.

Quote from: whiskeysteve on February 01, 2009, 09:39:21 PM
You take yourself way too seriously EG.

But he is substantitively right. On most other forums if you alledge a poster isn't who they say they are, you get the bullet.

There is a cosy clique on this site and anyone who disagrees with the herd gets labelled all sorts.

Quote from: nifan on February 03, 2009, 01:35:42 PM

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 03, 2009, 12:24:18 PM

Quote from: nifan on February 03, 2009, 10:59:10 AM
So  IP spoofing can probably be ruled out.

yer doing yer best but again it still comes short

Im answering your point about using unix/linux skills to ip mask.
Thats different than saying he dialed in to a work account.

Your certain its the same person, yet you have zero proof, so you can are already claiming hes covered his tracks without even knowing if there is an ip match, or even a subrange match.

go prove it isnt
why are you yes again sticking your beak into something that doesnt concern you ?

last failing charge of the diminished cavalry?
:D

giving a few reasons how dual posting can be done, there are plenty out there.
Just destroying the myth that it couldnt be the same person for 'technical reasns'

sure as you and the rest of you folk that are intent in jumping in for each other to answer to my ripostes and lie-busting are doing all this for each other, you could also be setting up the tech methods for evil myles to use given his technophobia!

the majority of you are on here just to snipe cause trouble...

Quote from: dublinfella on February 03, 2009, 01:40:06 PM

Quote from: whiskeysteve on February 01, 2009, 09:39:21 PM
You take yourself way too seriously EG.

But he is substantitively right. On most other forums if you alledge a poster isn't who they say they are, you get the bullet.

There is a cosy clique on this site and anyone who disagrees with the herd gets labelled all sorts.

no
those causing trouble and lying etc get pulled up

other stuff is acceptable - everyone is indulged with their opinions
sure that tool oneill is accused every day of being somone else ...no one bats an eyelid

grow up roversfella !
:D

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 03, 2009, 01:43:55 PM
why are you yes again sticking your beak into something that doesnt concern you ?

Funny coming from you, i dont think youve ever required an invitation to a conversation :D

For someone who has many times jumped in to give us the "benefit" of your opinions (and your sectarian profiling) you seem to think that you are somehow special that people reply to your posts.

Quote from: dublinfella on February 03, 2009, 01:40:06 PM
On most other forums if you alledge a poster isn't who they say they are, you get the bullet.

Is this true? Seems a bit harsh to ban someone for that.

I have to say, I've been accused of being another poster a few times previously, it didnt strike me as the sort of thing someone should be banned for. More so it mildly amused me.
In fact EG said himself that he was amused by the accusations of him being Myles.
I dont think him and Myles are the same person by the way, just to clarify.

Quote from: his holiness nb on February 03, 2009, 01:53:17 PM
Is this true? Seems a bit harsh to ban someone for that.

Would doubt it. Unless there was a warning for it being brought up in every thread the poster posts in which is currently happening and dragging down the topics.

Quote from: his holiness nb on February 03, 2009, 01:53:17 PM

Quote from: dublinfella on February 03, 2009, 01:40:06 PM
On most other forums if you alledge a poster isn't who they say they are, you get the bullet.

Is this true? Seems a bit harsh to ban someone for that.

I have to say, I've been accused of being another poster a few times previously, it didnt strike me as the sort of thing someone should be banned for. More so it mildly amused me.
In fact EG said himself that he was amused by the accusations of him being Myles.
I dont think him and Myles are the same person by the way, just to clarify.

Generally you are allowed one log in. If you are banned you are banned. So on a number of forums calling someone a double poster is essentially calling for them to be banned and comes with a sanction.

So you think Lynchboy should be banned for this?

Quote from: nifan on February 03, 2009, 01:50:05 PM

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 03, 2009, 01:43:55 PM
why are you yes again sticking your beak into something that doesnt concern you ?

Funny coming from you, i dont think youve ever required an invitation to a conversation :D

For someone who has many times jumped in to give us the "benefit" of your opinions (and your sectarian profiling) you seem to think that you are somehow special that people reply to your posts.

really !  :D
and you have come up with some cracking child like 'nuggets' in this and in the Celtic thread of late

so you are copying me now are you ? jeez with you emulating my board behaviour and the others jumping to answer me at every opportunty, and jekyll & hyde virtually stalking me now, I've got a posse of weirdos on my sace it seems.
Should I be flattered! :D

seemingly want to have me banned now too...do you still wear short trousers ?
:D

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 03, 2009, 02:09:26 PM

Quote from: nifan on February 03, 2009, 01:50:05 PM

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 03, 2009, 01:43:55 PM
why are you yes again sticking your beak into something that doesnt concern you ?

Funny coming from you, i dont think youve ever required an invitation to a conversation :D

For someone who has many times jumped in to give us the "benefit" of your opinions (and your sectarian profiling) you seem to think that you are somehow special that people reply to your posts.

really !  :D
and you have come up with some cracking child like 'nuggets' in this and in the Celtic thread of late

so you are copying me now are you ? jeez with you emulating my board behaviour and the others jumping to answer me at every opportunty, and jekyll & hyde virtually stalking me now, I've got a posse of weirdos on my sace it seems.
Should I be flattered! :D

seemingly want to have me banned now too...do you still wear short trousers ?
:D

What are you on about?
What nuggets have I come up with on the celtic thread apart from asking about mccourt and mcginn?

I certainly dont take the chance to answer you at every opportunity but i can do so when i choose. I wouldnt be flattered, i reply to any post i fancy, not just yours.

Quote from: nifan on February 03, 2009, 02:13:53 PM

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 03, 2009, 02:09:26 PM

Quote from: nifan on February 03, 2009, 01:50:05 PM

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 03, 2009, 01:43:55 PM
why are you yes again sticking your beak into something that doesnt concern you ?

Funny coming from you, i dont think youve ever required an invitation to a conversation :D

For someone who has many times jumped in to give us the "benefit" of your opinions (and your sectarian profiling) you seem to think that you are somehow special that people reply to your posts.

really !  :D
and you have come up with some cracking child like 'nuggets' in this and in the Celtic thread of late

so you are copying me now are you ? jeez with you emulating my board behaviour and the others jumping to answer me at every opportunty, and jekyll & hyde virtually stalking me now, I've got a posse of weirdos on my sace it seems.
Should I be flattered! :D

seemingly want to have me banned now too...do you still wear short trousers ?
:D

What are you on about?
What nuggets have I come up with on the celtic thread apart from asking about mccourt and mcginn?

I certainly dont take the chance to answer you at every opportunity but i can do so when i choose. I wouldnt be flattered, i reply to any post i fancy, not just yours.

showing you one of your 'pearls of wisdom' and highlighting your 'obsession' with me..
very quickly and easily
this one from the Celtic thread...obv you 'fancied' to 'reply' to this ! ::)  :D

Quote from: Muzz on January 30, 2009, 02:47:30 PM
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH MOD - disable lynchbhoy's quote button :-)


You reckon it is getting in the way of scintillating debate?

Quote from: dublinfella on February 03, 2009, 01:40:06 PM

Quote from: whiskeysteve on February 01, 2009, 09:39:21 PM
You take yourself way too seriously EG.

But he is substantitively right. On most other forums if you alledge a poster isn't who they say they are, you get the bullet.

There is a cosy clique on this site and anyone who disagrees with the herd gets labelled all sorts.

what do you care forkinknife? yes thats right, im on to your game...

Quote from: his holiness nb on February 03, 2009, 02:05:40 PM
So you think Lynchboy should be banned for this?

No, but a sanction to get him to improve his manners might be in order.

It was actually a comment on the way the thread was becoming tit for tat about this very issue,rather than an obsession with you. (wasnt even a reply to your comment)
But you highlight away, like the other "highlighting" youve done on me (who is obsessed with who?) what was it I am again? anti-irish anti-catholic :D dead on

Quote from: dublinfella on February 03, 2009, 02:23:52 PM

No, but a sanction to get him to improve his manners might be in order.

That's gregory-esque behaviour if I ever saw it....sir sir sir sir, he looked at me funny....pull down the Good Friday Agreement!!

Catch yourself on, you know you shouldnt be on a gaa board in the first place

Quote from: carribbear on February 03, 2009, 02:27:46 PM

Quote from: dublinfella on February 03, 2009, 02:23:52 PM

No, but a sanction to get him to improve his manners might be in order.

That's gregory-esque behaviour if I ever saw it....sir sir sir sir, he looked at me funny....pull down the Good Friday Agreement!!

Catch yourself on, you know you shouldnt be on a gaa board in the first place

And to prove my point.....

Why shouldn't I be on here? What gives you or Lynchboy the right to police the board?

oooh--- a little touchy, isn't she!  :D

I've no intention of policing this board but will keep highlighting the fact that you're not a GAA fan. that's all.

other than the mods what right does anyone have to police the board?

Possibly CB is advocating a ban rule to be implemented against lying yellowbelly shítstirrers.

Quote from: Main Street on February 03, 2009, 03:21:16 PM
Possibly CB is advocating a ban rule to be implemented against lying yellowbelly shítstirrers.

Nope - I'm not going to ask for any bans, best to just continue to highlight the fact some don't have the best intentions for the GAA posters

Quote from: dublinfella on February 03, 2009, 03:00:00 PM

Quote from: carribbear on February 03, 2009, 02:27:46 PM

Quote from: dublinfella on February 03, 2009, 02:23:52 PM

No, but a sanction to get him to improve his manners might be in order.

That's gregory-esque behaviour if I ever saw it....sir sir sir sir, he looked at me funny....pull down the Good Friday Agreement!!

Catch yourself on, you know you shouldnt be on a gaa board in the first place

And to prove my point.....

Why shouldn't I be on here? What gives you or Lynchboy the right to police the board?

jeez , I'm policing the board now as well !

what do you call this thread about me then - apart from an 'ode to LB' from some infatuated weirdo (aided and abetted by the usual little helpers!  whom I am pointing out examples of their infatuations to prove them wrong - eg the Celtic thread! :D)

its great that so many think so much of me, even I dont take myself that seriously!  :D  ;)

Quotewhom I am pointing out examples of their infatuations to prove them wrong - eg the Celtic thread!

your an eejit :D you need to get over yourself ;)

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 03, 2009, 04:19:09 PM
its great that so many think so much of me, even I dont take myself that seriously!  :D  ;)

But you sure do love yourself

Quote from: nifan on February 03, 2009, 04:27:28 PM

Quotewhom I am pointing out examples of their infatuations to prove them wrong - eg the Celtic thread!

your an eejit :D you need to get over yourself ;)

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 03, 2009, 04:19:09 PM
its great that so many think so much of me, even I dont take myself that seriously!  :D  ;)

But you sure do love yourself

looks like you and wee pals 'love' me more !
:D

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 03, 2009, 04:32:25 PM
looks like you and wee pals 'love' me more !
:D

If arguing with what you post is "love" you seem to love us too :-*
In fact this whole board is a giant circle jerk

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 03, 2009, 01:43:55 PM

Quote from: nifan on February 03, 2009, 01:35:42 PM
Your certain its the same person, yet you have zero proof, so you can are already claiming hes covered his tracks without even knowing if there is an ip match, or even a subrange match.

go prove it isnt

So there we have it. LB (gleefully) concludes that MNG and I are the same person, with no other evidence than a superficial similarity in posting styles, yet it is for me to prove that I'm not. (I'm tempted to plead something about there "never being Justice for a Brit in any Irish Court" etc  ;))

For as we all know, it is normally almost impossible to prove a negative of this sort - especially when operating via the anonymity of the internet - yet when I produce evidence indicating it to be highly unlikely, LB attempts to rebut this evidence by pointing to some sort of technical means whereby I could also fake the near simultaneous posting by MNG and myself.

Now as even Donagh avers, anyone who knows my posting record will know that I am a bit of a technophobe - frankly, all this talk of "ip sub-range matches etc" might as well be Swahili, for all it means to me.

Moreover, as Tony Baloney and others have rightly pointed out, why on earth would anyone bother to go to the trouble, some years after he first started posting, to fake something like this?

But I must say, this little episode does intrigue me, for it is yet another manifestation of something which has always struck me about this particular site. You see, unless I am obviously just messing about on a given thread, I think I can claim that I generally try to stick to the issues when posting. Now I don't expect people to agree with, or even be interested in, what I think - that's life. But what I can't understand is why so many people get hung up upon who I am, or what my my motives are.

For soon after I started posting, someone started a Poll, speculating on who I "really" was - Sammy G, Proud to be Gay etc - all of them incorrect, btw. And now there's been a repetition of this from Lynchbhoy. Now I don't actually expect any better from him, for it is clear from the prejudice of his posting that he basically considers that "themmuns" (Prods/Unionists/Brits) are all bigots etc (yep, an irony which is clearly lost on him  ::)). And therefore taking his attitude to its logical conclusion, anyone like Myles Na G who proclaims himself to be one of "Ussuns" (Catholic/Nationalist/Gael), but doesn't conform to the orthodoxy which the likes of Lynchbhoy and his mates would impose on everyone else, must therefore be an imposter of some sort.

Now it's obvious what I think of Lynchbhoy and others of a like mindset: imo they're fundamentally bigoted, but nonetheless don't greatly bother me, for I am also sure that they do not represent the consensus of followers of Gaelic games in the slightest ("Yousuns" are actually NOT all the same).

But for all those others who have wondered about my identity and motives etc when I started posting, rather than what I was actually trying to say, I would ask them to consider this: If, as I've no doubt they sincerely do, they really want GAA to be open to all, then the task of appealing or reaching out to people from my community is made considerably harder when it is accompanied by an almost instinctive suspicion, of the type which I encounter here all the time, even after 2000+ posts.

Just a thought.

as shakespeare said "the lady doth protests to much" me thinks ;D

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 04, 2009, 11:13:22 AM

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 03, 2009, 01:43:55 PM

Quote from: nifan on February 03, 2009, 01:35:42 PM
Your certain its the same person, yet you have zero proof, so you can are already claiming hes covered his tracks without even knowing if there is an ip match, or even a subrange match.

go prove it isnt

But for all those others who have wondered about my identity and motives etc when I started posting, rather than what I was actually trying to say, I would ask them to consider this: If, as I've no doubt they sincerely do, they really want GAA to be open to all, then the task of appealing or reaching out to people from my community is made considerably harder when it is accompanied by an almost instinctive suspicion, of the type which I encounter here all the time, even after 2000+ posts.

Just a thought.

First off, GAA is open to all. Whether or not one decides to participate is a matter of personal choice.  " Reaching out to people from my community" translates as " drop all you flags,emblems and re-name your teams/grounds and substitute them for something which appeals to ME." If you don't like the GAA, it's objectives and principles, then don't join, simple as that.  The GAA will endeavour to promote itself to all but there are those who, blinded by bigotry, who will never accpet it  for what it is, a wonderful amateur sporting organisation.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 04, 2009, 11:13:22 AM
If, as I've no doubt they sincerely do, they really want GAA to be open to all, then the task of appealing or reaching out to people from my community is made considerably harder when it is accompanied by an almost instinctive suspicion, of the type which I encounter here all the time, even after 2000+ posts.
Just a thought.

I think the fact that you have 2000+ posts here says it all really.
Anyone from a nationalist background posting on OWC or another sports forum with naturally unionist tendancies, to make arguments for the GAA or nationalism in general, would not be allowed to make 2000+ posts. They would either be banned or hounded out by personal abuse, in owcs case, quite likely from the mods themselves.
You yourself have been banned twice for breaking the rules of the site (not for your views on the gaa or anything else) and were welcomed back as soon as the bans expired.

Most people on here are entirely tolerant of you and are happy to debate matters with you, as am I.
For people to suspect you are on here to cause trouble isnt exactly shocking. I was accused of the very same thing on OWC when they found I was making arguments in defence of the GAA. Similarly on the Shamrock Rovers Ultras website. The most polite defense of the GAA on there earned me an instant ban and a barrage of abuse.

Of course coming onto a gaa website to criticise the GAA and nationalism is going to raise eyebrows, thats only natural, but lets not pretend its a GAA website issue only.

I know I will be told this is none of my business and that I feel the need to snipe at your every post. Thats to be expected now unfortunately. I've learned to accept you wont take my posts as relevant and instead see them as purely personal. Nothing I can do about this despite however politely I disagree with your points.

But the suggestion that this site is unwelcoming to Unionists, coming from a poster who regularly defends the goings on in the OWC website, does make one wonder.

OK Lynchboy suggested you were Mylesnag, hardly a big enough deal to pretend your political leanings are causing you to be victimised.

I could be wrong, but from what I have seen, theres very few other posters, on here who said they believe that you are MylesnaG.

Quote from: Drumanee 1 on February 04, 2009, 12:54:10 PM
as shakespeare said "the lady doth protests to much" me thinks ;D

"How weary, stale, flat, and unprofitable..."

P.S. If you must quote from Shakespeare, at least try to spell it correctly.  ::)

arguing on the internet  :D :D :D

 :D
this is some laugh alright ! the 'victimised' eejit is 'taking offenc' at something and whinging about it and now equating this 'terrible treatment' to how the poor unionist/loyalists can justify their suspicion of the GAA because they might get similar 'treatment'.

no the problem is that the first (and plenty of subsequent) salvoes of vitrol have been fired by evil myles (etc etc) on frequent occasions on here (enough to get themselves banned for ott and ignorant behaviour) that have been out of order and not within normal manners or even withing the realm or acceptable internet etiquette.

the said poster has admitted to being on here to cause hassle ('stir shite') and put across his own north of ireland soccer agenda - and to try and equate the GAA to being the same kind of sectarian unit and organisation as ni soccer is.

www.wee-steps.com or some carp like that I think it was.

anyhow if any of our lads stepped out of line in a similar way with bad manners etc, then plenty on here seem to react and take them to task.
why should evil myles (and wee bunch of schoolgirl cronies that jump all in to 'defend' each other when shown up - both of which happens freq) be treated any differently.
Plenty have taken for example Tony and others to task on here,so all posters are treated the same.

as for these idle jibes about me being sectarian/bigoted etc it doesnt bother me as it aint true. People would agree that I have unusual ideas etc, but admit I am fair/honest. So it bothers me not what a self admitting troublemaker levels at me.
I take it as a compliment that my seeing through his negative campaign causes his annoyance meriting a thread dedicated to attempt to malign me.
I just take this guy's falswhoods and lies in his posts to taks , therefore his forked tongued propaganda wont be imbibed by the good denizens of the GAAboard as fact wheras it is mostly fiction.

therein lies his problem with me. He tried the same with Tony when he showed him up, similarly with Saffron sam2.
as Drumanee1 rightly points out
she doth protest too much.
and this protest has highlighted evil myles for what he really is and thus shot himself in the foot again !
:D

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 04, 2009, 02:27:09 PM
and wee bunch of schoolgirl cronies that jump all in to 'defend' each other when shown up

:D
your calling me for "childish" posts in this thread.
Youve said before nobody can tell you when to post and when not to post when i questioned the sectarian profiling you applied to me, when you jumped in to converstions I was having with other, so its ironic you continually moan about a few people who happen to question your shite.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 04, 2009, 11:13:22 AM
And therefore taking his attitude to its logical conclusion, anyone like Myles Na G who proclaims himself to be one of "Ussuns" (Catholic/Nationalist/Gael), but doesn't conform to the orthodoxy which the likes of Lynchbhoy and his mates would impose on everyone else, must therefore be an imposter of some sort.

Eh no
If you read the threads with your intellect and not your emotions you would have read, as I pointed out,  plenty of GAAboard members would agree with a point or two that Myles brought up.
What brings Myles up to the impostor microscope is because he used clear Unionist terminology and content in his arguments.
Many people sniffed that out, also his mask obviously slipped here and there.
He is not just presenting another side of the debate.
Whatever his background,  he now fully represents a distinct Unionist platform in regards to the GAA.

His Celtic posts have been juvenile wikiesque and I would,'t classify myself as anything more than a Celtic sympathiser.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 04, 2009, 01:38:55 PM

Quote from: Drumanee 1 on February 04, 2009, 12:54:10 PM
as shakespeare said "the lady doth protests to much" me thinks ;D

"How weary, stale, flat, and unprofitable..."

P.S. If you must quote from Shakespeare, at least try to spell it correctly.  ::)

that is the resason i have two use somone elses qoutes,cant mak up me own

Quote from: nifan on February 04, 2009, 02:37:37 PM

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 04, 2009, 02:27:09 PM
and wee bunch of schoolgirl cronies that jump all in to 'defend' each other when shown up

:D
your calling me for "childish" posts in this thread.
Youve said before nobody can tell you when to post and when not to post when i questioned the sectarian profiling you applied to me, when you jumped in to converstions I was having with other, so its ironic you continually moan about a few people who happen to question your shite.

what ARE you babbling on about !
::)
paraphrasing and not even accurate !
:D

allow me to make it easier for you.

Your constant references to "little girls", "schoolgirls" etc to those who are disagreeing with you is very childish.

Wheras you said "and you have come up with some cracking child like 'nuggets'"

what else is confusing you?

Could this have been done in a private message? Stop f**king going on about personal issues in the middle of public. It's ridiculously annoying.

Quote from: stibhan on February 04, 2009, 04:52:25 PM
Could this have been done in a private message? Stop f**king going on about personal issues in the middle of public. It's ridiculously annoying.

read another thread ::)

I find the need for this thread severely lacking.

Quote from: stibhan on February 04, 2009, 04:52:25 PM
Could this have been done in a private message? Stop f**king going on about personal issues in the middle of public. It's ridiculously annoying.

I feel somewhat apologietic that this has come up, but I have had to reply in my own defence.

As you see the idiotic stuff that has been thrown at me here including some unbelieveable daft and stupid stuff (see ni fans last post above) that dont make sense yet are trying to throw some mud (ineffectual and pointless vitrol) in my direction and are hoping that it will stick.
Obv most wont fall for that daft rubbish, but it doesnt stop the 'usual suspects' 'ganging up' and having a dig.

Most def I would have preferred that if someone had a problem with me and what I said, then they could do it by pm - but thats not public enough for these 'attention seekers'.

I'd expect you'd do the same if it were you.
I will refrain form answering any further to these ridiculous posts attempting to besmirch my good name!
Somehow I doubt if the fickle agitated keyboards of loyalism/unionism will do likewise!
;) :D

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 04, 2009, 05:07:20 PM
As you see the idiotic stuff that has been thrown at me here including some unbelieveable daft and stupid stuff (see ni fans last post above) that dont make sense yet are trying to throw some mud (ineffectual and pointless vitrol) in my direction and are hoping that it will stick.

My post was neither daft or stupid. It was perfectly understandable. It was however in response to an accusation from your good self.

Quotebut it doesnt stop the 'usual suspects' 'ganging up' and having a dig.

Oh poor me poor me :'(

Do try and grow up. In the past when youve had your pops at me, i havent cried that i was being ganged up on. I tried to argue over the points with you until you typically exited the conversation telling me I couldnt demand answers from you.
The fact that more than one poster can disagree with you is par for the course on a board, and ive been on the outnumbered side of many threads on here.

QuoteI will refrain form answering any further to these ridiculous posts attempting to besmirch my good name!
Somehow I doubt if the fickle agitated keyboards of loyalism/unionism will do likewise!

Fine, refrain. For me your "good name" was besmirched long ago, when you had your ridiculous attacks on me (anti iris, ant catholic sticks out, and uvf sympathiser and dup propogandist) based solely on my religion seemingly. You then proceeded to make snide comments in a number of threads claiming you where going to make others aware of this fact ::)

I'm half surprised the mods didnt delete the thread early on based on the personal nature of the title.

Nothing worthy of punishment, quite clearly, but based on the title alone, it was clear that it was bound to end in tears  ;D

how do you do it lb?having so many stalkers,you get more attention than barack

Seven pages of childish nonsense.
Would ye all grow f**king up especially EG.
Nifan -I thought you had more sense than to get involved in this ráiméis.

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Quote from: Rossfan on February 04, 2009, 06:13:57 PM
Seven pages of childish nonsense.
Would ye all grow f**king up especially EG.
Nifan -I thought you had more sense than to get involved in this ráiméis.

Agree.
Eg you take this whole thing far too seriously (you have to stop with the essays btw) but Id say this thread stems more from an odd little obsession with lynchbhoy. 

Lynchboy's style does tend to attract the wrong type of attention.


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Quote from: his holiness nb on February 04, 2009, 05:25:15 PM
I'm half surprised the mods didnt delete the thread early on based on the personal nature of the title.

Nothing worthy of punishment, quite clearly, but based on the title alone, it was clear that it was bound to end in tears  ;D

Agreed.

Quote from: hardstation on February 01, 2009, 09:25:49 PM
Although I don't think that you and Myles are the same person and I couldn't give a shite if you are or not, it is very easy to have two aliases posting away at the same time. I used to do it a fair bit until my aliases got banned :(.

Well, some of them. :)

when i was acting the maggot on here I was at home with three computers going at once, I was in the GAA chatroom and working off two other computers at the same time and at one point I had armaghfan convinced I was a lesbian who was going to a hen night in his part of London and he was mad looking an invite for some strange reason.

It was some craic but when I found myself running between computers to mess with him I realised that I needed to get a life and I havent used an alias since then.

Ah the aul chatroom, there was great craic in there at times. :)
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Quote from: Rossfan on February 04, 2009, 06:13:57 PM
Nifan -I thought you had more sense than to get involved in this ráiméis.

Rossfan, your probably right - I should be - I guess Ive just been suspicious of Lynchbhoy since his earlier obsession with me, and the tactics he employs in his arguments. Probably let myself get sucked in.

Quote from: nifan on February 05, 2009, 09:09:16 AM

Quote from: Rossfan on February 04, 2009, 06:13:57 PM
Nifan -I thought you had more sense than to get involved in this ráiméis.

Rossfan, your probably right - I should be - I guess Ive just been suspicious of Lynchbhoy since his earlier obsession with me, and the tactics he employs in his arguments. Probably let myself get sucked in.

No matter nifan maybe LB is just fond of you!, also did you notice that EG starts the thread and has pretty much let you get carried away and drag it out for 8 pages.
Now EG whilst I don't particularly agree with either MnG or you on most things (also the writing styles are very similar) I'm not really sure that your one in the same person, but the personal nature of this thread is a bit much, it's also a piss poor and boring thread.

Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 05, 2009, 10:10:36 AM
No matter nifan maybe LB is just fond of you!,

Maybe, but i doubt it :P

Quote from: nifan on February 04, 2009, 05:17:21 PM

Fine, refrain. For me your "good name" was besmirched long ago, when you had your ridiculous attacks on me (anti iris, ant catholic sticks out, and uvf sympathiser and dup propogandist) based solely on my religion seemingly. You then proceeded to make snide comments in a number of threads claiming you where going to make others aware of this fact ::)

Stall the ball here, thats some accusation, if i rem correctly, he has consistently suggested that you are in fact  edward woodward, and alluded to the general reasoning in your posts being as a result of your schooling. 

Quote from: An Fear Rua on February 05, 2009, 10:24:53 AM

Quote from: nifan on February 04, 2009, 05:17:21 PM

Fine, refrain. For me your "good name" was besmirched long ago, when you had your ridiculous attacks on me (anti iris, ant catholic sticks out, and uvf sympathiser and dup propogandist) based solely on my religion seemingly. You then proceeded to make snide comments in a number of threads claiming you where going to make others aware of this fact ::)

Stall the ball here, thats some accusation, if i rem correctly, he has consistently suggested that you are in fact  edward woodward, and alluded to the general reasoning in your posts being as a result of your schooling. 

by reading posts by nifan i think the reason he calls him edward woodward (the equaliser) is due to the fact if you bring up a anything that may be deemed anti catholic he will return with something which would be deemed anti protestant just to equal it up,now thats his prerogative but it gets tiresome after  a while.

QuoteStall the ball here, thats some accusation, if i rem correctly, he has consistently suggested that you are in fact  edward woodward, and alluded to the general reasoning in your posts being as a result of your schooling.

No he called me a dup propagandist.
He said i was returning to type.
He said my arguments defended "all bastions of decency like oo/ruc/dup/udr/lvf/uvf/brit army"

Sad the way this thread has turned out and it says a lot about the person who started it with his pretty conclusive evidence, cleared off and allowed it to degenerate into a petty squabbling match. Although he got a couple of fairly childish digs in before he left.

My tuppence worth.

I don't know if EG and Myles are one and the same, but I won't be losing any sleep over it. Both have used a phrase that I have only ever seen or heard on this board - even then it has only be used by two posters, EG and Myles. If they are one and the same fair enough, but it takes a particular class of poster to deliberately claim to be something he's not. If they are two different posters, then fair enough as well, but something rings hollow about Myles's attitude to the GAA (for one whose family were involved).

Should we leave it that EG and Myles are two different posters until it can be proved otherwise. And we certainly need more conclusive evidence that EG supplied here. It may have been enough to convict in one of his beloved Diplock courts, but not in the real world.

nifan should know better. Let EG continue the debate he started, you are the one who is looking bad in this thread. Even well known members of the cavalry like ChrisOWC are giving this one a bye ball.

I would also propose that the term Evil Myles becomes part of the gaaboard vocabulary, to describe someone with no interest in or knowledege of the GAA, but who tries to pass himself / herself off as an expert on everything. It would be great if, in reality, they are one and the same, but an Evil Myles persona is not a great step.

I also hate the way EG uses onesmallstep as his main motivation for joining this site. It is quite clear that he has no idea of the concept behind that campaign. Do us all a favour and begin to realise that there are people (themmuns if you like) who have a modicum of intelligence and then you have a chance of being taken somewhat more seriously by the discerning gaaboard poster.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
nifan should know better.

Alright alright can everyone stop saying that!
I only posted on this thread in the first place to suggest a quick ip check as one possible test  :-[

For whats its worth I think both Lynchboy and Nifan are sound, reasonable posters.

Quote from: nifan on February 05, 2009, 11:19:51 AM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
nifan should know better.

Alright alright can everyone stop saying that!
I only posted on this thread in the first place to suggest a quick ip check as one possible test  :-[

Maybe a quick IQ test would be more appropriate.!
Don't let them get to you, Nifan. You're doing grand.

Quote from: his holiness nb on February 05, 2009, 01:14:49 PM
For whats its worth I think both Lynchboy and Nifan are sound, reasonable posters.

That's would be my opinion too. I haven't read alll the thread but I can gather enough info from reading posts on various topics that Lynchbhoy is sound,(and) reasonable.

I am convinced EG is the person who once visited me. He uses the same rhetorical arguments and posts in the same style etc

You are wrong Tony. EG is not mac

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 04, 2009, 02:27:09 PM
:D
this is some laugh alright ! the 'victimised' eejit is 'taking offenc' at something and whinging about it and now equating this 'terrible treatment' to how the poor unionist/loyalists can justify their suspicion of the GAA because they might get similar 'treatment'.

no the problem is that the first (and plenty of subsequent) salvoes of vitrol have been fired by evil myles (etc etc) on frequent occasions on here (enough to get themselves banned for ott and ignorant behaviour) that have been out of order and not within normal manners or even withing the realm or acceptable internet etiquette.

the said poster has admitted to being on here to cause hassle ('stir shite') and put across his own north of ireland soccer agenda - and to try and equate the GAA to being the same kind of sectarian unit and organisation as ni soccer is.

www.wee-steps.com or some carp like that I think it was.

anyhow if any of our lads stepped out of line in a similar way with bad manners etc, then plenty on here seem to react and take them to task.
why should evil myles (and wee bunch of schoolgirl cronies that jump all in to 'defend' each other when shown up - both of which happens freq) be treated any differently.
Plenty have taken for example Tony and others to task on here,so all posters are treated the same.

as for these idle jibes about me being sectarian/bigoted etc it doesnt bother me as it aint true. People would agree that I have unusual ideas etc, but admit I am fair/honest. So it bothers me not what a self admitting troublemaker levels at me.
I take it as a compliment that my seeing through his negative campaign causes his annoyance meriting a thread dedicated to attempt to malign me.
I just take this guy's falswhoods and lies in his posts to taks , therefore his forked tongued propaganda wont be imbibed by the good denizens of the GAAboard as fact wheras it is mostly fiction.

therein lies his problem with me. He tried the same with Tony when he showed him up, similarly with Saffron sam2.
as Drumanee1 rightly points out
she doth protest too much.
and this protest has highlighted evil myles for what he really is and thus shot himself in the foot again !
:D

Not even I could be bothered to reply to this inarticulate, ungrammatical rant, for it's pretty much total (ahem) carp, the lot of it. But I will point out that to date, not a single other poster has come out and agreed with you over your "EG = MNG" claim, not one. What does that tell you, eh?

Quote from: nifan on February 05, 2009, 03:39:39 PM
You are wrong Tony. EG is not mac

How can you tell the difference?
Mac wouldn't use an alibi that he doesn't understand?

Quote from: Main Street on February 04, 2009, 03:48:51 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 04, 2009, 11:13:22 AM
And therefore taking his attitude to its logical conclusion, anyone like Myles Na G who proclaims himself to be one of "Ussuns" (Catholic/Nationalist/Gael), but doesn't conform to the orthodoxy which the likes of Lynchbhoy and his mates would impose on everyone else, must therefore be an imposter of some sort.

Eh no
If you read the threads with your intellect and not your emotions you would have read, as I pointed out,  plenty of GAAboard members would agree with a point or two that Myles brought up.
What brings Myles up to the impostor microscope is because he used clear Unionist terminology and content in his arguments.
Many people sniffed that out, also his mask obviously slipped here and there.
He is not just presenting another side of the debate.
Whatever his background,  he now fully represents a distinct Unionist platform in regards to the GAA.

His Celtic posts have been juvenile wikiesque and I would,'t classify myself as anything more than a Celtic sympathiser.

Can you provide some examples of this "clear Unionist terminology"? That way, I suppose we might be able to deduce if that betrays unequivocably a "Unionist identity".
Though tbh, from time to time we all use phrases, language and terminology whose origins we don't appreciate. For example, I once described something as "damning with faint praise". I could have sworn that came from Shakespeare, whose works I know reasonably well. Yet someone querying it caused me to check and it turns out it's from an author, Alexander Pope, of whom I am almost entirely ignorant.

Back to you.

P.S. I've just noticed that Lynchbhoy used the phrase "the usual suspects" in a post, which I'm pretty certain was first used on this Board by me. Does that mean he's really a Unionist like me, or Jewish-American, like the originator? Or when I repeat the use of "the cavalry" (as in 'come to the rescue of'), does that mean I am betraying Reublican sympathies like those of whoever first used it? Quite honestly, such a test is about as reliable as deciding from how someone pronounces the letter "h". And what's wrong with measuring the distance between peoples eyebrows anyhow?  ::)

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 04:31:18 PM

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 04, 2009, 02:27:09 PM
:D
this is some laugh alright ! the 'victimised' eejit is 'taking offenc' at something and whinging about it and now equating this 'terrible treatment' to how the poor unionist/loyalists can justify their suspicion of the GAA because they might get similar 'treatment'.

no the problem is that the first (and plenty of subsequent) salvoes of vitrol have been fired by evil myles (etc etc) on frequent occasions on here (enough to get themselves banned for ott and ignorant behaviour) that have been out of order and not within normal manners or even withing the realm or acceptable internet etiquette.

the said poster has admitted to being on here to cause hassle ('stir shite') and put across his own north of ireland soccer agenda - and to try and equate the GAA to being the same kind of sectarian unit and organisation as ni soccer is.

www.wee-steps.com or some carp like that I think it was.

anyhow if any of our lads stepped out of line in a similar way with bad manners etc, then plenty on here seem to react and take them to task.
why should evil myles (and wee bunch of schoolgirl cronies that jump all in to 'defend' each other when shown up - both of which happens freq) be treated any differently.
Plenty have taken for example Tony and others to task on here,so all posters are treated the same.

as for these idle jibes about me being sectarian/bigoted etc it doesnt bother me as it aint true. People would agree that I have unusual ideas etc, but admit I am fair/honest. So it bothers me not what a self admitting troublemaker levels at me.
I take it as a compliment that my seeing through his negative campaign causes his annoyance meriting a thread dedicated to attempt to malign me.
I just take this guy's falswhoods and lies in his posts to taks , therefore his forked tongued propaganda wont be imbibed by the good denizens of the GAAboard as fact wheras it is mostly fiction.

therein lies his problem with me. He tried the same with Tony when he showed him up, similarly with Saffron sam2.
as Drumanee1 rightly points out
she doth protest too much.
and this protest has highlighted evil myles for what he really is and thus shot himself in the foot again !
:D

Not even I could be bothered to reply to this inarticulate, ungrammatical rant, for it's pretty much total (ahem) carp, the lot of it. But I will point out that to date, not a single other poster has come out and agreed with you over your "EG = MNG" claim, not one. What does that tell you, eh?

yet you did

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 04:42:05 PM

Quote from: Main Street on February 04, 2009, 03:48:51 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 04, 2009, 11:13:22 AM
And therefore taking his attitude to its logical conclusion, anyone like Myles Na G who proclaims himself to be one of "Ussuns" (Catholic/Nationalist/Gael), but doesn't conform to the orthodoxy which the likes of Lynchbhoy and his mates would impose on everyone else, must therefore be an imposter of some sort.

Eh no
If you read the threads with your intellect and not your emotions you would have read, as I pointed out,  plenty of GAAboard members would agree with a point or two that Myles brought up.
What brings Myles up to the impostor microscope is because he used clear Unionist terminology and content in his arguments.
Many people sniffed that out, also his mask obviously slipped here and there.
He is not just presenting another side of the debate.
Whatever his background,  he now fully represents a distinct Unionist platform in regards to the GAA.

His Celtic posts have been juvenile wikiesque and I would,'t classify myself as anything more than a Celtic sympathiser.

Can you provide some examples of this "clear Unionist terminology"? That way, I suppose we might be able to deduce if that betrays unequivocably a "Unionist identity".
Though tbh, from time to time we all use phrases, language and terminology whose origins we don't appreciate. For example, I once described something as "damning with faint praise". I could have sworn that came from Shakespeare, whose works I know reasonably well. Yet someone querying it caused me to check and it turns out it's from an author, Alexander Pope, of whom I am almost entirely ignorant.

Back to you.

Feck off to the Warrenpoint thread and read my replies there for yourself, even those replies to yourself.

Quote from: Main Street on February 05, 2009, 04:48:17 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 04:42:05 PM

Quote from: Main Street on February 04, 2009, 03:48:51 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 04, 2009, 11:13:22 AM
And therefore taking his attitude to its logical conclusion, anyone like Myles Na G who proclaims himself to be one of "Ussuns" (Catholic/Nationalist/Gael), but doesn't conform to the orthodoxy which the likes of Lynchbhoy and his mates would impose on everyone else, must therefore be an imposter of some sort.

Eh no
If you read the threads with your intellect and not your emotions you would have read, as I pointed out,  plenty of GAAboard members would agree with a point or two that Myles brought up.
What brings Myles up to the impostor microscope is because he used clear Unionist terminology and content in his arguments.
Many people sniffed that out, also his mask obviously slipped here and there.
He is not just presenting another side of the debate.
Whatever his background,  he now fully represents a distinct Unionist platform in regards to the GAA.

His Celtic posts have been juvenile wikiesque and I would,'t classify myself as anything more than a Celtic sympathiser.

Can you provide some examples of this "clear Unionist terminology"? That way, I suppose we might be able to deduce if that betrays unequivocably a "Unionist identity".
Though tbh, from time to time we all use phrases, language and terminology whose origins we don't appreciate. For example, I once described something as "damning with faint praise". I could have sworn that came from Shakespeare, whose works I know reasonably well. Yet someone querying it caused me to check and it turns out it's from an author, Alexander Pope, of whom I am almost entirely ignorant.

Back to you.

Feck off to the Warrenpoint thread and read my replies there for yourself, even those replies to yourself.

I've noticed you have a habit of doing this i.e. running away when challenged to back up with evidence some assertion you have made.

You are made the claim, so you must have had something in mind. Why are you now reluctant to come up with it?

Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 04, 2009, 06:32:10 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on February 04, 2009, 06:13:57 PM
Seven pages of childish nonsense.
Would ye all grow f**king up especially EG.
Nifan -I thought you had more sense than to get involved in this ráiméis.

Agree.
Eg you take this whole thing far too seriously (you have to stop with the essays btw) but Id say this thread stems more from an odd little obsession with lynchbhoy. 

No "obsession" at all. Rather, Lynchbhoy's fantasy was merely the most obvious example of something which I've noticed about this Board, namely a greater preoccupation by posters with who someone is than what they actually think. ("Playing the man, not the ball").

I started this thread with that thought in mind, giving Lynchbhoy the opportunity to back up his claim (he hasn't) and also to see what other people thought. Then when I got a flavour of their views, I posted at length what was behind my challenge to LB (see post #85).

P.S. If by "essay" you are referring to that post (#85), then I'd suggest if you can only handle short words and the simplest of grammatical constructions, you'd be better off with the Beano.

Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 05, 2009, 10:10:36 AM

Quote from: nifan on February 05, 2009, 09:09:16 AM

Quote from: Rossfan on February 04, 2009, 06:13:57 PM
Nifan -I thought you had more sense than to get involved in this ráiméis.

Rossfan, your probably right - I should be - I guess Ive just been suspicious of Lynchbhoy since his earlier obsession with me, and the tactics he employs in his arguments. Probably let myself get sucked in.

No matter nifan maybe LB is just fond of you!, also did you notice that EG starts the thread and has pretty much let you get carried away and drag it out for 8 pages.
Now EG whilst I don't particularly agree with either MnG or you on most things (also the writing styles are very similar) I'm not really sure that your one in the same person, but the personal nature of this thread is a bit much, it's also a piss poor and boring thread.

Then why did you read it? After all, it was addressed "FAO Lynchbhoy", not you.  ???

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 04:42:05 PM

Quote from: Main Street on February 04, 2009, 03:48:51 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 04, 2009, 11:13:22 AM
And therefore taking his attitude to its logical conclusion, anyone like Myles Na G who proclaims himself to be one of "Ussuns" (Catholic/Nationalist/Gael), but doesn't conform to the orthodoxy which the likes of Lynchbhoy and his mates would impose on everyone else, must therefore be an imposter of some sort.

Eh no
If you read the threads with your intellect and not your emotions you would have read, as I pointed out,  plenty of GAAboard members would agree with a point or two that Myles brought up.
What brings Myles up to the impostor microscope is because he used clear Unionist terminology and content in his arguments.
Many people sniffed that out, also his mask obviously slipped here and there.
He is not just presenting another side of the debate.
Whatever his background,  he now fully represents a distinct Unionist platform in regards to the GAA.

His Celtic posts have been juvenile wikiesque and I would,'t classify myself as anything more than a Celtic sympathiser.

Can you provide some examples of this "clear Unionist terminology"? That way, I suppose we might be able to deduce if that betrays unequivocably a "Unionist identity".
Though tbh, from time to time we all use phrases, language and terminology whose origins we don't appreciate. For example, I once described something as "damning with faint praise". I could have sworn that came from Shakespeare, whose works I know reasonably well. Yet someone querying it caused me to check and it turns out it's from an author, Alexander Pope, of whom I am almost entirely ignorant.

Back to you.

P.S. I've just noticed that Lynchbhoy used the phrase "the usual suspects" in a post, which I'm pretty certain was first used on this Board by me. Does that mean he's really a Unionist like me, or Jewish-American, like the originator? Or when I repeat the use of "the cavalry" (as in 'come to the rescue of'), does that mean I am betraying Reublican sympathies like those of whoever first used it? Quite honestly, such a test is about as reliable as deciding from how someone pronounces the letter "h". And what's wrong with measuring the distance between peoples eyebrows anyhow?  ::)

You should keep it that way - he's a neo classical bore.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
Sad the way this thread has turned out and it says a lot about the person who started it with his pretty conclusive evidence, cleared off and allowed it to degenerate into a petty squabbling match. Although he got a couple of fairly childish digs in before he left.

Really? It was Sunday evening when I opened the thread, the replies didn't really start until Monday morning and in particular, Lynchbhoy didn't get back until sometime after that. Since his reply(s), I have been mostly otherwise engaged, though I did make time to make one considered post (#85). If in the meantime, I declined to get involved in contributions to the thread which didn't really concern and/or interest me, so what? Besides, it's only Thursday now, and I'm ready to give the thread further attention.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
I don't know if EG and Myles are one and the same, but I won't be losing any sleep over it. Both have used a phrase that I have only ever seen or heard on this board - even then it has only be used by two posters, EG and Myles.

What is that phrase?

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
If they are one and the same fair enough, but it takes a particular class of poster to deliberately claim to be something he's not.

But I am not the one who is claiming anything.  I'd say it takes a "certain class of poster" to conjure up such a conspiracy theory on the flimsiest of evidence, loudly (and proudly) proclaim it for all to hear, then when challenged to back it up, refuse to do so on the grounds of "Guilty until proven Innocent". (That's Lynchbhoy I'm referring to, in case you're wondering  ::))

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
If they are two different posters, then fair enough as well, but something rings hollow about Myles's attitude to the GAA (for one whose family were involved).

I have never claimed that MNG is anything (other than not me). If you feel his professed attitude towards the GAA etc is suspect, then take it up with him. Either way, it does not mean that he is me, anymore than he might be e.g. nifan or ChrisOWC, for example.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
Should we leave it that EG and Myles are two different posters until it can be proved otherwise. And we certainly need more conclusive evidence that EG supplied here. It may have been enough to convict in one of his beloved Diplock courts, but not in the real world.

In so far as I can decipher your garbled syntax, the first two sentences appear contradictory (i.e. the normal "burden of proof" versus my need to exculpate myself). And the third sentence may seem like a clever jibe to you, but in the context of the point which you appear to be trying to make, it's actually irrelevant bollox.  

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
nifan should know better. Let EG continue the debate he started, you are the one who is looking bad in this thread. Even well known members of the cavalry like ChrisOWC are giving this one a bye ball.

Until Lynchbhoy and others started getting personal with him, nifan's contributions were merely of a technical nature (how one might disguise ones identity over the internet etc). Since I am a bit of a dud on such matters, I was quite happy to let him get on with dealing with that. As for the reasons behind ChrisOWC's non-participation, you'd need to ask him, since I'm not him either, strangely enough... ::)

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
I would also propose that the term Evil Myles becomes part of the gaaboard vocabulary, to describe someone with no interest in or knowledege of the GAA, but who tries to pass himself / herself off as an expert on everything. It would be great if, in reality, they are one and the same, but an Evil Myles persona is not a great step.

I have never claimed any knowledge of the GAA, and have rarely posted in the GAA section (although browsing it from time-to-time has increased my knowledge). As for the Non-GAA section, I don't think I'm quite alone in being someone who confines himself to this part of the Board. As for being an "expert", that's for others to determine (I don't expect I'll be too surprised - or upset - by their verdict, btw  ;)), but I do consider I know more about what Unionist thinking may be on a range of political topics than most others hereabouts. Which is ironic, considering certain hardline Republicans never hold back from telling everyone what "Themmuns" believe, even when one of "Ussuns" declares otherwise!

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
I also hate the way EG uses onesmallstep as his main motivation for joining this site. It is quite clear that he has no idea of the concept behind that campaign.

Perhaps I should repeat that www.onesmallstep.org is only one of the reasons I joined this Board. In that regard, there was one particular aspect of OSS which particularly intrigued me, namely the suggestion that we should try to get out of our normal "comfort zone" and into those of the 'other' community in NI. One way they proposed to achieve this was by occasionally buying a different newspaper from the one you normally do. As a variation on this, I joined a different website, that's all.
Anyhow, with respect to OSS, would you like to back up your assertion about my having "no idea" of the concept behind it? For I suspect that the real reason why you and others have derided me when I've cited it previously, is that it makes it that much harder to dismiss me as a mere stirrer, and so tell me to "Feck off back where you came from".
Bit of a bummer that one, eh?  :D

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
Do us all a favour and begin to realise that there are people (themmuns if you like) who have a modicum of intelligence and then you have a chance of being taken somewhat more seriously by the discerning gaaboard poster.

I wasn't aware I owed you, never mind anyone else, a "favour", for so long as I comply with the Rules of the Board, I have every bit as much right to be here as everyone else. And I have my own opinions as to which are the intelligent and discerning posters whom I would like to take me seriously, thank you very much.
Speaking of which, I wouldn't like you to be under any illusions of your own inclusion within that (select) group - I'm actually replying at length to your post in the hope that one or two others might be interested.  :D
 

E G - I think it's time you considered reducing the size of your carbon footprint. >:(
These marathon postings will have to stop.

Quote from: T Fearon on February 05, 2009, 03:07:23 PM
I am convinced EG is the person who once visited me. He uses the same rhetorical arguments and posts in the same style etc

Just how wrong can one man be on so many topics - even when the evidence (or otherwise) is/was sitting right in front of him!  :D

It is good to have people of different persuasions on the board makes for good debate...but I think this has dragged on too long!!

That post there must have took a hour to write.....

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on February 05, 2009, 04:44:20 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 04:31:18 PM

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 04, 2009, 02:27:09 PM
:D
this is some laugh alright ! the 'victimised' eejit is 'taking offenc' at something and whinging about it and now equating this 'terrible treatment' to how the poor unionist/loyalists can justify their suspicion of the GAA because they might get similar 'treatment'.

no the problem is that the first (and plenty of subsequent) salvoes of vitrol have been fired by evil myles (etc etc) on frequent occasions on here (enough to get themselves banned for ott and ignorant behaviour) that have been out of order and not within normal manners or even withing the realm or acceptable internet etiquette.

the said poster has admitted to being on here to cause hassle ('stir shite') and put across his own north of ireland soccer agenda - and to try and equate the GAA to being the same kind of sectarian unit and organisation as ni soccer is.

www.wee-steps.com or some carp like that I think it was.

anyhow if any of our lads stepped out of line in a similar way with bad manners etc, then plenty on here seem to react and take them to task.
why should evil myles (and wee bunch of schoolgirl cronies that jump all in to 'defend' each other when shown up - both of which happens freq) be treated any differently.
Plenty have taken for example Tony and others to task on here,so all posters are treated the same.

as for these idle jibes about me being sectarian/bigoted etc it doesnt bother me as it aint true. People would agree that I have unusual ideas etc, but admit I am fair/honest. So it bothers me not what a self admitting troublemaker levels at me.
I take it as a compliment that my seeing through his negative campaign causes his annoyance meriting a thread dedicated to attempt to malign me.
I just take this guy's falswhoods and lies in his posts to taks , therefore his forked tongued propaganda wont be imbibed by the good denizens of the GAAboard as fact wheras it is mostly fiction.

therein lies his problem with me. He tried the same with Tony when he showed him up, similarly with Saffron sam2.
as Drumanee1 rightly points out
she doth protest too much.
and this protest has highlighted evil myles for what he really is and thus shot himself in the foot again !
:D

Not even I could be bothered to reply to this inarticulate, ungrammatical rant, for it's pretty much total (ahem) carp, the lot of it. But I will point out that to date, not a single other poster has come out and agreed with you over your "EG = MNG" claim, not one. What does that tell you, eh?

yet you did

I didn't think it was a very hard distinction to grasp, but I'll spell it out for slow-learners like yourself.

Namely, I didn't actually reply to what he posted. Rather, in merely letting him him know I thought it was "carp" [sic], I took the opportunity to make a different point.

Gees, you are a genius aren't you...

Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2009, 06:13:01 PM
E G - I think it's time you considered reducing the size of your carbon footprint. >:(

I know I'm not very au fait with computers etc, but can you explain to me how my posts are contributing to anyones carbon footprint?  ??? You're not printing them out, by any chance?  :D

Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2009, 06:13:01 PM
These marathon postings will have to stop.

I can think of one two-word answer to that! As Rolf would say, can you guess what it is?  ;)

Quote from: The Watcher Pat on February 05, 2009, 06:18:40 PM
That post there must have took a hour to write.....

Just because it took you an hour to read*, don't assume the rest of us move at your pace... ;)

* - Is the tip of your finger getting sore?  :D

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 05:02:08 PM

Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 04, 2009, 06:32:10 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on February 04, 2009, 06:13:57 PM
Seven pages of childish nonsense.
Would ye all grow f**king up especially EG.
Nifan -I thought you had more sense than to get involved in this ráiméis.

Agree.
Eg you take this whole thing far too seriously (you have to stop with the essays btw) but Id say this thread stems more from an odd little obsession with lynchbhoy. 

No "obsession" at all. Rather, Lynchbhoy's fantasy was merely the most obvious example of something which I've noticed about this Board, namely a greater preoccupation by posters with who someone is than what they actually think. ("Playing the man, not the ball").

I started this thread with that thought in mind, giving Lynchbhoy the opportunity to back up his claim (he hasn't) and also to see what other people thought. Then when I got a flavour of their views, I posted at length what was behind my challenge to LB (see post #85).

P.S. If by "essay" you are referring to that post (#85), then I'd suggest if you can only handle short words and the simplest of grammatical constructions, you'd be better off with the Beano.

Lynch DID come back with 'technical proof' on how you could be more than one poster and not be identifiable by Mods and you have proven how obsessed you are with him by starting up this thread. Also with the amount of posts you have on here and the amount of bother you go to in order to argue with people shows that you could very well have the inclination.
Lynch is probably right. its just most of us couldnt care less. 

And by essay I was referring to almost all of your posts, I have no trouble reading long posts, it's long boring ones that are full of shite I have the problem staying awake during. 

Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 05, 2009, 06:59:36 PM

Lynch is probably right. its just most of us couldnt care less. 

Lynchbhoy probably couldnt be farther from the truth in my opinion.

Youre right about the caring part.

I think pintsofguinness is lynchbhoy. Something about the way they say certain things. And have you ever seen both of them together? QED.

Is that how it works? Seems that way.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 04:54:47 PM

Quote from: Main Street on February 05, 2009, 04:48:17 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 04:42:05 PM

Quote from: Main Street on February 04, 2009, 03:48:51 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 04, 2009, 11:13:22 AM
And therefore taking his attitude to its logical conclusion, anyone like Myles Na G who proclaims himself to be one of "Ussuns" (Catholic/Nationalist/Gael), but doesn't conform to the orthodoxy which the likes of Lynchbhoy and his mates would impose on everyone else, must therefore be an imposter of some sort.

Eh no
If you read the threads with your intellect and not your emotions you would have read, as I pointed out,  plenty of GAAboard members would agree with a point or two that Myles brought up.
What brings Myles up to the impostor microscope is because he used clear Unionist terminology and content in his arguments.
Many people sniffed that out, also his mask obviously slipped here and there.
He is not just presenting another side of the debate.
Whatever his background,  he now fully represents a distinct Unionist platform in regards to the GAA.

His Celtic posts have been juvenile wikiesque and I would,'t classify myself as anything more than a Celtic sympathiser.

Can you provide some examples of this "clear Unionist terminology"? That way, I suppose we might be able to deduce if that betrays unequivocably a "Unionist identity".
Though tbh, from time to time we all use phrases, language and terminology whose origins we don't appreciate. For example, I once described something as "damning with faint praise". I could have sworn that came from Shakespeare, whose works I know reasonably well. Yet someone querying it caused me to check and it turns out it's from an author, Alexander Pope, of whom I am almost entirely ignorant.

Back to you.

Feck off to the Warrenpoint thread and read my replies there for yourself, even those replies to yourself.

I've noticed you have a habit of doing this i.e. running away when challenged to back up with evidence some assertion you have made.

You are made the claim, so you must have had something in mind. Why are you now reluctant to come up with it?

Lets see you little runt, because you are too selective to remember what I have written in another thread to you and too lazy to check the thread, you say I am running away.
Grab a pair of balls and leave your fantasy playground.

Not many, if any, actually agree exactly with LB on the not yet disproved identical twin theory, nevertheless the smelly issue of Myles's honesty on GAAboard have been recognised with suspicion by most.

Both of you, Evil sr and jr,  have negative pedantic debating similarities, yet junior is not as verbose.
You could be quite capable of justifying a wretched alias to test the waters as a mission from higher authorities but most doubt that you are actually capable of doing it.

Quote from: Hardy on February 05, 2009, 07:19:05 PM
I think pintsofguinness is lynchbhoy. Something about the way they say certain things. And have you ever seen both of them together? QED.

Is that how it works? Seems that way.

F*ck off I know where capital letters and full stops go. 

You protest too much. That proves I'm right.

Quote from: Hardy on February 05, 2009, 07:26:03 PM
You protest too much. That proves I'm right.

I think the onus is rightly on Pints to prove that you are wrong Hardy. Your accusation is perfectly acceptable and plausible.

Crucify him.

Certainly. I'm waiting for the usual suspects to show up now.

Fine, I'll be lynchbhoy. 

Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 05, 2009, 07:33:14 PM
Fine, I'll be lynchbhoy. 

Any chance you can just apologise to Evil Genius and Myles and then we'll move on? You will need two seperate apologies.


BTW - Maybe you are lynchbhoy - didnt you accuse a poster of being 4 people at the one time once? ;)

Quote from: Puckoon on February 05, 2009, 07:35:50 PM

Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 05, 2009, 07:33:14 PM
Fine, I'll be lynchbhoy. 

Any chance you can just apologise to Evil Genius and Myles and then we'll move on? You will need two seperate apologies.

Me? Apologise?
That's funny. 
How about he apologies for 87 years of discriminatoin!

I'm impressed at how well he disguises his age!

hardy I think 87 years is eg and myles combined.

At least pog's memory is intact.

Quote from: Main Street on February 05, 2009, 08:17:49 PM
At least pog's memory is intact.

Never forget, never forgive, that's my philosophy

Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 05, 2009, 08:25:03 PM
Never forget, never forgive, that's my philosophy

You`ll go far with an attitude like that  ::)

Just when we were speaking of posters having obsessions with other posters....ironic you should appear.

Pot, kettle & black.

Listen here fatty, you were given your chance, you chose to run away, then again with your background I`m not surprised, its a wonder the Silverbridge jersey doesnt have a big yellow streak down the back of it  :D

Quote from: Double Cross on February 05, 2009, 09:02:46 PM
Pot, kettle & black.

Listen here fatty, you were given your chance, you chose to run away, then again with your background I`m not surprised, its a wonder the Silverbridge jersey doesnt have a big yellow streak down the back of it  :D

Given my chance with what?

Quote from: hardstation on February 05, 2009, 09:04:53 PM
The Cross jersey has loads of yellow streaks.

Never thought of that HS. Cross people dont have a habit of running away though, not like their neighbours  ;)

Given my chance with what double cross? How can I run away from something when I dont knwo what it is?

Looks like doublecross is running away from me....

Quote from: Main Street on February 05, 2009, 07:21:16 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 04:54:47 PM

Quote from: Main Street on February 05, 2009, 04:48:17 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 04:42:05 PM

Quote from: Main Street on February 04, 2009, 03:48:51 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 04, 2009, 11:13:22 AM
And therefore taking his attitude to its logical conclusion, anyone like Myles Na G who proclaims himself to be one of "Ussuns" (Catholic/Nationalist/Gael), but doesn't conform to the orthodoxy which the likes of Lynchbhoy and his mates would impose on everyone else, must therefore be an imposter of some sort.

Eh no
If you read the threads with your intellect and not your emotions you would have read, as I pointed out,  plenty of GAAboard members would agree with a point or two that Myles brought up.
What brings Myles up to the impostor microscope is because he used clear Unionist terminology and content in his arguments.
Many people sniffed that out, also his mask obviously slipped here and there.
He is not just presenting another side of the debate.
Whatever his background,  he now fully represents a distinct Unionist platform in regards to the GAA.

His Celtic posts have been juvenile wikiesque and I would,'t classify myself as anything more than a Celtic sympathiser.

Can you provide some examples of this "clear Unionist terminology"? That way, I suppose we might be able to deduce if that betrays unequivocably a "Unionist identity".
Though tbh, from time to time we all use phrases, language and terminology whose origins we don't appreciate. For example, I once described something as "damning with faint praise". I could have sworn that came from Shakespeare, whose works I know reasonably well. Yet someone querying it caused me to check and it turns out it's from an author, Alexander Pope, of whom I am almost entirely ignorant.

Back to you.

Feck off to the Warrenpoint thread and read my replies there for yourself, even those replies to yourself.

I've noticed you have a habit of doing this i.e. running away when challenged to back up with evidence some assertion you have made.

You are made the claim, so you must have had something in mind. Why are you now reluctant to come up with it?

Lets see you little runt, because you are too selective to remember what I have written in another thread to you and too lazy to check the thread, you say I am running away.
Grab a pair of balls and leave your fantasy playground.

Not many, if any, actually agree exactly with LB on the not yet disproved identical twin theory, nevertheless the smelly issue of Myles's honesty on GAAboard have been recognised with suspicion by most.

Both of you, Evil sr and jr,  have negative pedantic debating similarities, yet junior is not as verbose.
You could be quite capable of justifying a wretched alias to test the waters as a mission from higher authorities but most doubt that you are actually capable of doing it.

I pulled you up about this before on a different thread - your habit of making stuff up to suit your own argument. Now here you are again, still at it. Substantiate what you're saying - cite the posts in which I've told lies - or else toddle off back to the big boys club with your tail between your legs. Like you did last time, if I remember rightly.  ;)

Im brian, and so is my wife

Hey Myles you never answered me on the southern irish thread.

Quote from: Myles Na G. on February 05, 2009, 09:21:29 PM
I pulled you up about this before on a different thread - your habit of making stuff up to suit your own argument. Now here you are again, still at it. Substantiate what you're saying - cite the posts in which I've told lies - or else toddle off back to the big boys club with your tail between your legs. Like you did last time, if I remember rightly.  ;)

Celtic man himself, Myles the Fake, you still lurking around the GAAboard?
You are of the same mind as Evil G, where do you both get the impression that I run away?
Not least from a wimp like yourself and the mighty mouse himself, EG.

Puck

QuoteBTW - Maybe you are lynchbhoy - didnt you accuse a poster of being 4 people at the one time once?

Only noticed this now, but was it 4 people I outted Lecale as being? I've lost count of how many names Lecale uses/has used. 
I think he now only uses a couple I didn't mention in that thread. 

Quote from: Main Street on February 05, 2009, 09:38:26 PM

Quote from: Myles Na G. on February 05, 2009, 09:21:29 PM
I pulled you up about this before on a different thread - your habit of making stuff up to suit your own argument. Now here you are again, still at it. Substantiate what you're saying - cite the posts in which I've told lies - or else toddle off back to the big boys club with your tail between your legs. Like you did last time, if I remember rightly.  ;)

Celtic man himself, Myles the Fake, you still lurking around the GAAboard?
You are of the same mind as Evil G, where do you both get the impression that I run away?
Not least from a wimp like yourself and the mighty mouse himself, EG.

So are you going to back up what you said, or will you just settle for a bit more bluster?

EXCLUSIVE !!!!!!!!

Hardstation is Laoislad.

Old news rossfan. Jesus.

Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 05, 2009, 09:24:35 PM
Hey Myles you never answered me on the southern irish thread.

Yeah, I noticed that too.  :)  I was waiting to see if anyone else weighed in with a few opinions to widen out the debate. Then nobody did and the moment passed. Leave it with me and I'll get back to you on it.

Quote from: Puckoon on February 05, 2009, 10:07:32 PM
Old news rossfan. Jesus.

Hardstation is Jesus  ???

Quote from: hardstation on February 05, 2009, 10:19:15 PM
Íosa Críost to you!

Gabh mo leithscéal a thiarna :)

I'm Jesus, feck off Hardstation.

Now that yous mention it, Hardstation does have Jesus like qualties.

He dandered off when he was 12 and caused a furore on the falls road?

Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 05, 2009, 09:11:26 PM
Looks like doublecross is running away from me....

Sorry slim, but some of us have lives, we cant spend every waking hour on the GAA Board  ;)

Quote from: Double Cross on February 05, 2009, 11:53:43 PM

Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 05, 2009, 09:11:26 PM
Looks like doublecross is running away from me....

Sorry slim, but some of us have lives, we cant spend every waking hour on the GAA Board  ;)

So you're not going to answer me then?

I`ll give you all the answers you want  ;)

Quote from: Double Cross on February 05, 2009, 09:02:46 PM
Pot, kettle & black.

Listen here fatty, you were given your chance, you chose to run away, then again with your background I`m not surprised, its a wonder the Silverbridge jersey doesnt have a big yellow streak down the back of it  :D

Well if you're not too much of a coward to answer questions you can tell me waht you're talking about when you say I was given a "chance" and "choose to run away"?

Only you can answer that and please stop sending PMs to Mod3, he has enough to be doing without having to listen to you  :D

Too coward to answer. 
seem a bit obsessed with mod3 too, funny since you were the one looking mods to ban people on another thread.

Whatever tubby  ::)

Look a member of this forum offered you a chance to back up your bullsh*t in person, you declined, you refused to turn up. And then you have a cheek to call other members of this forum a coward.  ::)

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 12:47:02 AM
Whatever tubby  ::)

Look a member of this forum offered you a chance to back up your bullsh*t in person, you declined, you refused to turn up. And then you have a cheek to call other members of this forum a coward.  ::)

You're the coward that hides behind a computer calling childish names.  ;D

You offering to come out of hiding?

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 12:49:30 AM
You offering to come out of hiding?

What are you on about, I've never been in hiding.

You were offered a chance to back up your mouthing, you chose not to, are you now saying that you would be willing to back up your bullsh*t in person, if you are I am sure arrangements could be made.

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 12:54:39 AM
You were offered a chance to back up your mouthing, you chose not to, are you now saying that you would be willing to back up your bullsh*t in person, if you are I am sure arrangements could be made.

What bullshit should I be backing up? what have I done to annoy you?

 :D :D

 ::)

Going back in to hiding?  ::)

Hiding from who?

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 01:05:10 AM
Hiding from who?

Me, you seem to have this thing against me but are only brave enough to call childish names, why dont you just tell me what the problem is, we're all adults here. 

Why would I hide from you? Should I be afraid?

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 01:08:21 AM
Why would I hide from you? Should I be afraid?

Ha! No, I just wish you'd tell me what the problem was instead of calling childish names.  It's like something the children in the playground would be at.

So why are you calling me a coward?

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 01:11:17 AM
So why are you calling me a coward?

Because that's what people who call childish names are.  You havent even the nerve to face me on here with whatever the problem is.

Pints you seem to have a problem distinguishing the GAA Board from reality, I know it must be difficult after spending 155 days on here in just over 2 years, but you cant really face people on a discussion board. Maybe you should switch off your computer and get out a bit more.
Now I am going to bed, if you want to continue this discussion at a later date, thats fine with me. Of course you will have to make a snide comment when I log off, you always have to have the last word.  ;)

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 01:18:39 AM
Pints you seem to have a problem distinguishing the GAA Board from reality, I know it must be difficult after spending 155 days on here in just over 2 years, but you cant really face people on a discussion board. Maybe you should switch off your computer and get out a bit more.
Now I am going to bed, if you want to continue this discussion at a later date, thats fine with me. Of course you will have to make a snide comment when I log off, you always have to have the last word.  ;)

I have a problem distinguishing the gaa board from reality but it's you who wants me to "back up your bullsh*t in person"?
Hmmm, interesting.

anyway, night night, sweet dreams  :-*

Could you not back up anything you say? Or are you content to hide behind your computer screen?

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 01:25:31 AM
Could you not back up anything you say? Or are you content to hide behind your computer screen?

I'd back up everything I say, would I meet to have a punch up about a forum on the internet, no.  That would be silly, wouldnt it?

Maybe it would, but it would be very silly if you were ever held to account for all your mouthing off and you werent able to back it up. You would look very silly then.

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 01:29:33 AM
Maybe it would, but it would be very silly if you were ever held to account for all your mouthing off and you werent able to back it up. You would look very silly then.

What do you mean by "backing it up"? I'd stand over anything I've said on here. 
I dont even know you, know nothing about you and you dont know me, know nothing about me, so why are you intent on meeting for a fight?

I never said anything about meeting for a fight? You have a very vivid imagination.
All I said was would you be willing to back up anything you have to say in person, no one mentioned a fight, though i hear the last time a member of this forum offered you a straightner you ran to the mods and got him banned, now I wouldnt be that silly.

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 01:35:34 AM
I never said anything about meeting for a fight? You have a very vivid imagination.
All I said was would you be willing to back up anything you have to say in person, no one mentioned a fight, though i hear the last time a member of this forum offered you a straightner you ran to the mods and got him banned, now I wouldnt be that silly.

So when you said this:

Quotesaying that you would be willing to back up your bullsh*t in person, if you are I am sure arrangements could be made.

You want to meet me for a chat?

I dont want to meet you, you seem to have taken the hump with me, sure I think you are a great fella, moral guardian of the board and all that. I just want to know what I did to offend poor oul pints.

Anyway, you seem to be dodging the question, the last time someone took umbrage with your ramblings and offered you a straightner what did you do? Did you turn up and settle your differences like a man or did you go running to the mods?

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 01:43:15 AM
I dont want to meet you, you seem to have taken the hump with me, sure I think you are a great fella, moral guardian of the board and all that. I just want to know what I did to offend poor oul pints.

Anyway, you seem to be dodging the question, the last time someone took umbrage with your ramblings and offered you a straightner what did you do? Did you turn up and settle your differences like a man or did you go running to the mods?

If you dont want to meet me why did you say "arrangements could be made"? What did you mean?

And no, Id have no interest in meeting anyone for a fight.  Do you think that was acceptable or normal behaviour that someone wants to meet for a fight over something on an internet forum?

Arrangements could be made for anything pints. All I am saying is that I can arrange most things.

So you were calling me a coward, but you say you have no interest in fighting? Is that not cowardly? Cowards run away.

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 01:51:49 AM
Arrangements could be made for anything pints. All I am saying is that I can arrange most things.

So you were calling me a coward, but you say you have no interest in fighting? Is that not cowardly? Cowards run away.

You can arrange most things? I dont understand, sure if you dont want to meet me what who would you be arranging to meet me?

No, I dont think I'm a coward, I think it's silly to fight over a discussion board on the internet, the pen is mightier than the sword and I'd feel bad I'd feel bad if I hurt 5ivetimes. 

You are always mentioning 5times, why? do you have the horn for him or something?

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 01:51:49 AM
Arrangements could be made for anything pints. All I am saying is that I can arrange most things.

Most things - can I have a club sandwich from Eddie Rockets delivered to the office in Sydney?

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 01:58:30 AM
You are always mentioning 5times, why? do you have the horn for him or something?

No I just think he's sad but funny at the same time.

You never answered me, yet again, what are you on about making arrangments for someone to meet me?

You really should see someone about that paranoia

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 02:04:44 AM
You really should see someone about that paranoia

Hmm yes, you still never answered me.  You wont/cant even face me on here but you call me a coward for not meeting someone for a fight.  I think you should go back to calling me fatty from behind your keyboard, that seems to be more in your league of toughness. 

Now I'm off to bed, night night sweet cheeks  :-*

Have you lost weight?

Quote from: Double Cross on February 06, 2009, 02:09:01 AM
Have you lost weight?

Aye, that's more in your line, you're a real tough man  :D  :D

Indeed, but you can be a big fella on here, everyone knows you wont back up anything you say, you proved that a while back  ;)

Oi, where's me sandwich?

Quote from: stephenite on February 06, 2009, 02:21:58 AM
Oi, where's me sandwich?

I think he might be all talk.

As I said earlier slim, pot, kettle black.

You proved your manliness a while back, sure everyone knows how brave you are.

We're really going through the book of childish insults tonight arent we  ::)

Sorry wrong post, now can we go to bed, Im up at 7.

You could have left "hows your sister" in your last post you know, I dont think anyone could think any less of you for that ::)

As I said in the previous post it was in the wrong post, it wasnt meant for you.

You are determined to get the last word.

Four pages of 'my da's bigger than your da.' Three hours of your lives you're never going to see again, fellas.

I read this last night, but am only getting the chance to reply now., the inclement weather having stopped my young charges walking to school.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
Sad the way this thread has turned out and it says a lot about the person who started it with his pretty conclusive evidence, cleared off and allowed it to degenerate into a petty squabbling match. Although he got a couple of fairly childish digs in before he left.

Really? It was Sunday evening when I opened the thread, the replies didn't really start until Monday morning and in particular, Lynchbhoy didn't get back until sometime after that. Since his reply(s), I have been mostly otherwise engaged, though I did make time to make one considered post (#85). If in the meantime, I declined to get involved in contributions to the thread which didn't really concern and/or interest me, so what? Besides, it's only Thursday now, and I'm ready to give the thread further attention.

So you're basically agreeing with me. Start a post that is likely to be controversial and then let it fester for four full days, whilst declining to get involved. I would suggest that that is stereotypical WUMry.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
I don't know if EG and Myles are one and the same, but I won't be losing any sleep over it. Both have used a phrase that I have only ever seen or heard on this board - even then it has only be used by two posters, EG and Myles.

What is that phrase?

The phrase shall remain undisclosed for now. If I was to disclose the phrase it would simply give you another opportunity to demonstrate your ignorance in the art of googling.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9862.30 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9862.30)

When both of you use the phrase again, I may tell you.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
If they are one and the same fair enough, but it takes a particular class of poster to deliberately claim to be something he's not.

But I am not the one who is claiming anything.  I'd say it takes a "certain class of poster" to conjure up such a conspiracy theory on the flimsiest of evidence, loudly (and proudly) proclaim it for all to hear, then when challenged to back it up, refuse to do so on the grounds of "Guilty until proven Innocent". (That's Lynchbhoy I'm referring to, in case you're wondering  ::))

I was talking about someone who would deliberately create a false identity, for example someone who would be from a unionist background who would set himself up on here as a nationalist, Celtic supporting, GAA hating individual. Now if (and it's a big if) this is what the poster MnaG is all about, then yes my comment is correct. The rest of your point may seem like a clever jibe to you, but in the context of the point which you appear to be trying to make, it's actually irrelevant bollix.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
If they are two different posters, then fair enough as well, but something rings hollow about Myles's attitude to the GAA (for one whose family were involved).

I have never claimed that MNG is anything (other than not me). If you feel his professed attitude towards the GAA etc is suspect, then take it up with him. Either way, it does not mean that he is me, anymore than he might be e.g. nifan or ChrisOWC, for example.

I already have, via the PM facility.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
Should we leave it that EG and Myles are two different posters until it can be proved otherwise. And we certainly need more conclusive evidence that EG supplied here. It may have been enough to convict in one of his beloved Diplock courts, but not in the real world.

In so far as I can decipher your garbled syntax, the first two sentences appear contradictory (i.e. the normal "burden of proof" versus my need to exculpate myself). And the third sentence may seem like a clever jibe to you, but in the context of the point which you appear to be trying to make, it's actually irrelevant bollox.   

They do not appear contradictory in any way. I am simply saying that I am happy to leave it that EG and MnaG are two different posters. If anyone can produce conclusive evidence to the contrary then I will change my opinion. That evidence would need to be much stronger than that presented by yourself (and comprehensively debunked) on this thread. For example, I could provide conclusive evidence as to the poster wesaysanchez really was. Exculpate is an excellent word by the way.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
nifan should know better. Let EG continue the debate he started, you are the one who is looking bad in this thread. Even well known members of the cavalry like ChrisOWC are giving this one a bye ball.

Until Lynchbhoy and others started getting personal with him, nifan's contributions were merely of a technical nature (how one might disguise ones identity over the internet etc). Since I am a bit of a dud on such matters, I was quite happy to let him get on with dealing with that. As for the reasons behind ChrisOWC's non-participation, you'd need to ask him, since I'm not him either, strangely enough... ::)

This post appears contradictory. You profess to being a dud, yet you start a thread with the swagger of a technological genius.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
I would also propose that the term Evil Myles becomes part of the gaaboard vocabulary, to describe someone with no interest in or knowledege of the GAA, but who tries to pass himself / herself off as an expert on everything. It would be great if, in reality, they are one and the same, but an Evil Myles persona is not a great step.

I have never claimed any knowledge of the GAA, and have rarely posted in the GAA section (although browsing it from time-to-time has increased my knowledge). As for the Non-GAA section, I don't think I'm quite alone in being someone who confines himself to this part of the Board. As for being an "expert", that's for others to determine (I don't expect I'll be too surprised - or upset - by their verdict, btw  ;)), but I do consider I know more about what Unionist thinking may be on a range of political topics than most others hereabouts. Which is ironic, considering certain hardline Republicans never hold back from telling everyone what "Themmuns" believe, even when one of "Ussuns" declares otherwise!

As you introduce new words like conflating and exculpate to the board, I feel (and you should agree) that the board would benefit from the introduction of a new verb / noun evil myles. There are a multitude of your posts when you do indeed attempt to pass yourself off as an expert (or certainly more expert than those you are debating with) on a particular topic, yet it is quite clear you aren't.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
I also hate the way EG uses onesmallstep as his main motivation for joining this site. It is quite clear that he has no idea of the concept behind that campaign.

Perhaps I should repeat that www.onesmallstep.org is only one of the reasons I joined this Board. In that regard, there was one particular aspect of OSS which particularly intrigued me, namely the suggestion that we should try to get out of our normal "comfort zone" and into those of the 'other' community in NI. One way they proposed to achieve this was by occasionally buying a different newspaper from the one you normally do. As a variation on this, I joined a different website, that's all.
Anyhow, with respect to OSS, would you like to back up your assertion about my having "no idea" of the concept behind it? For I suspect that the real reason why you and others have derided me when I've cited it previously, is that it makes it that much harder to dismiss me as a mere stirrer, and so tell me to "Feck off back where you came from".
Bit of a bummer that one, eh?  :D

I would suggest that getting out of your comfort zone and registering on a site such as this is indeed in keeping with the spirit of OSS. However it is your behaviour since you registered that would suggest you have no idea. As well as registering, you should try to understand the ethos and the reality of the GAA through involving yourself in debate on both sides of the board. The fact that your posts re. the GAA are almost exclusively negative would sugest you are neither interested in the GAA, furthering your knowledge of the GAA nor the OSS campaign.

Nor will you see me tell you (or any other poster) to feck off back where you came from. There are a number of different types of poster who have come from owc. There are those whose sole interest is in soccer and demonstrate this through posting in a wide range of topics, there are those who were drawn to this site by the ramblings of Fearon and who are trying to right wrongs and yes, there are those here to simply stir shit. My view is that you fall into the latter category. Over two thousand posts later, for example, and we still don't know what club team you support. I won't ask any poster to feck off, I will do my best (through garbled syntax) to debate openly with them before I make up my mind about the type of poster they are. You will no doubt be interested to know that via a PM go-between, there is a standing invitation from me for Michael Boyd to come to our school to talk about FFA. I could show you other PMs from and to a range of owc posters that would make your assertion appear even more ridiculous than it does.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
Do us all a favour and begin to realise that there are people (themmuns if you like) who have a modicum of intelligence and then you have a chance of being taken somewhat more seriously by the discerning gaaboard poster.

I wasn't aware I owed you, never mind anyone else, a "favour", for so long as I comply with the Rules of the Board, I have every bit as much right to be here as everyone else. And I have my own opinions as to which are the intelligent and discerning posters whom I would like to take me seriously, thank you very much.
Speaking of which, I wouldn't like you to be under any illusions of your own inclusion within that (select) group - I'm actually replying at length to your post in the hope that one or two others might be interested.  :D

It says a lot of a person in that they will only do a favour if they feel they owe somebody one. What sort of world would we live in then?

You also make an assumptions about me, erroneously as it happens. I neither seek nor crave inclusion within your (select) group. I slept very soundly last night, the possibility of not being taken seriously by you being insufficient to keep me awake.

I will leave with a few excerpts from your posts on this thread to show the true level of debate of which you are capable. I have never seen so much personal abuse in one thread.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:30:18 PM
Just because it took you an hour to read*, don't assume the rest of us move at your pace... ;)

* - Is the tip of your finger getting sore?  :D

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:19:57 PM
I didn't think it was a very hard distinction to grasp, but I'll spell it out for slow-learners like yourself.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM
In so far as I can decipher your garbled syntax,

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 05:02:08 PM
P.S. If by "essay" you are referring to that post (#85), then I'd suggest if you can only handle short words and the simplest of grammatical constructions, you'd be better off with the Beano.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 04:31:18 PM
Not even I could be bothered to reply to this inarticulate, ungrammatical rant, for it's pretty much total (ahem) carp,

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 04, 2009, 01:38:55 PM
P.S. If you must quote from Shakespeare, at least try to spell it correctly.  ::)

Phew! my head hurts

What about the 2 heads one body theory for the 2 Evils?

(http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20041201/dl2.jpg)

Quote from: ludermor on February 06, 2009, 12:23:09 PM
Phew! my head hurts

I know what you mean. Have tried to dip in and out of this thread in an attempt to figure out what's going on but I'm still at a loss. However as the thread has blatantly been started as a attack on another member, surely it breaks the feuding or personal abuse rules?

Quote from: Myles Na G. on February 05, 2009, 10:02:50 PM

Quote from: Main Street on February 05, 2009, 09:38:26 PM

Quote from: Myles Na G. on February 05, 2009, 09:21:29 PM
I pulled you up about this before on a different thread - your habit of making stuff up to suit your own argument. Now here you are again, still at it. Substantiate what you're saying - cite the posts in which I've told lies - or else toddle off back to the big boys club with your tail between your legs. Like you did last time, if I remember rightly.  ;)

Celtic man himself, Myles the Fake, you still lurking around the GAAboard?
You are of the same mind as Evil G, where do you both get the impression that I run away?
Not least from a wimp like yourself and the mighty mouse himself, EG.

So are you going to back up what you said, or will you just settle for a bit more bluster?

You decided to go for the bluster. Quelle surprise!  :D  :D

Worst thread ever.

And who is this double cross fella?

Is that snowed under etc?

Quote from: Myles Na G. on February 06, 2009, 01:30:11 PM
So are you going to back up what you said, or will you just settle for a bit more bluster?

QuoteYou decided to go for the bluster. Quelle surprise!  :D  :D

EM, I have already explained to you exactly and in detail why I think you have been less than honest with your activity here on the discussion board.
You have denied it, imo, not at all convincingly.
I have not changed my mind nor will I change my opinion.


So grow up and move on, preferably to place where you can engage in mature discussion with the big boys,
but I'm not holding my breath on that one, judging by your farcical wiki knowledge of all things Celtic.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
Sad the way this thread has turned out and it says a lot about the person who started it with his pretty conclusive evidence, cleared off and allowed it to degenerate into a petty squabbling match. Although he got a couple of fairly childish digs in before he left.

Really? It was Sunday evening when I opened the thread, the replies didn't really start until Monday morning and in particular, Lynchbhoy didn't get back until sometime after that. Since his reply(s), I have been mostly otherwise engaged, though I did make time to make one considered post (#85). If in the meantime, I declined to get involved in contributions to the thread which didn't really concern and/or interest me, so what? Besides, it's only Thursday now, and I'm ready to give the thread further attention.

So you're basically agreeing with me. Start a post that is likely to be controversial and then let it fester for four full days, whilst declining to get involved. I would suggest that that is stereotypical WUMry.

Hang on a minute! In an obvious attempt to "wind me up", another poster was making an accusation about me - hardly offensive, certainly nothing to put in a complaint about, in fact rather amusing tbh. Anyway, I asked him to back it up with some evidence. It was a couple of days before he could get back to me, by which time other distractions meant I couldn't get back promptly to him, but when I could, I did. If in the meantime, a range of other posters "pile in" to the thread, how am I to be held responsible for that? To remind you, the thread was addressed to "Lynchbhoy", not "All and sundry".

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
I don't know if EG and Myles are one and the same, but I won't be losing any sleep over it. Both have used a phrase that I have only ever seen or heard on this board - even then it has only be used by two posters, EG and Myles.

What is that phrase?

The phrase shall remain undisclosed for now. If I was to disclose the phrase it would simply give you another opportunity to demonstrate your ignorance in the art of googling.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9862.30 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9862.30)

When both of you use the phrase again, I may tell you.

So you refer to an unspecified "phrase" to back up some point you are making, then when asked to state what it is, you decline, citing something vague about Googling.  ??? Sounds to me like you're a graduate of the "Main Street School of Internet Debating", with all the credibility that that confers.  ::)

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
If they are one and the same fair enough, but it takes a particular class of poster to deliberately claim to be something he's not.

But I am not the one who is claiming anything.  I'd say it takes a "certain class of poster" to conjure up such a conspiracy theory on the flimsiest of evidence, loudly (and proudly) proclaim it for all to hear, then when challenged to back it up, refuse to do so on the grounds of "Guilty until proven Innocent". (That's Lynchbhoy I'm referring to, in case you're wondering  ::))

I was talking about someone who would deliberately create a false identity, for example someone who would be from a unionist background who would set himself up on here as a nationalist, Celtic supporting, GAA hating individual. Now if (and it's a big if) this is what the poster MnaG is all about, then yes my comment is correct. The rest of your point may seem like a clever jibe to you, but in the context of the point which you appear to be trying to make, it's actually irrelevant bollix.

This thread concerns whether I am MNG or not. I am saying I'm not. No-one has produced any plausible evidence, never mind proof, that I am. And nor will they, since I, for one, know that I am not MNG. Now if MNG is not who he says he is, then that is for another thread and for others to debate, since I have no idea who he is, nor is it any of my business.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
nifan should know better. Let EG continue the debate he started, you are the one who is looking bad in this thread. Even well known members of the cavalry like ChrisOWC are giving this one a bye ball.

Until Lynchbhoy and others started getting personal with him, nifan's contributions were merely of a technical nature (how one might disguise ones identity over the internet etc). Since I am a bit of a dud on such matters, I was quite happy to let him get on with dealing with that. As for the reasons behind ChrisOWC's non-participation, you'd need to ask him, since I'm not him either, strangely enough... ::)

This post appears contradictory. You profess to being a dud, yet you start a thread with the swagger of a technological genius.

I know how to open a thread. That doesn't take "technological genius", merely the most basic of computer/messageboard knowledge. I am at a complete loss to know how to "swagger" in cyberspace.  ???

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
I would also propose that the term Evil Myles becomes part of the gaaboard vocabulary, to describe someone with no interest in or knowledege of the GAA, but who tries to pass himself / herself off as an expert on everything. It would be great if, in reality, they are one and the same, but an Evil Myles persona is not a great step.

I have never claimed any knowledge of the GAA, and have rarely posted in the GAA section (although browsing it from time-to-time has increased my knowledge). As for the Non-GAA section, I don't think I'm quite alone in being someone who confines himself to this part of the Board. As for being an "expert", that's for others to determine (I don't expect I'll be too surprised - or upset - by their verdict, btw  ;)), but I do consider I know more about what Unionist thinking may be on a range of political topics than most others hereabouts. Which is ironic, considering certain hardline Republicans never hold back from telling everyone what "Themmuns" believe, even when one of "Ussuns" declares otherwise!

As you introduce new words like conflating and exculpate to the board, I feel (and you should agree) that the board would benefit from the introduction of a new verb / noun evil myles. There are a multitude of your posts when you do indeed attempt to pass yourself off as an expert (or certainly more expert than those you are debating with) on a particular topic, yet it is quite clear you aren't.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
I also hate the way EG uses onesmallstep as his main motivation for joining this site. It is quite clear that he has no idea of the concept behind that campaign.

Perhaps I should repeat that www.onesmallstep.org is only one of the reasons I joined this Board. In that regard, there was one particular aspect of OSS which particularly intrigued me, namely the suggestion that we should try to get out of our normal "comfort zone" and into those of the 'other' community in NI. One way they proposed to achieve this was by occasionally buying a different newspaper from the one you normally do. As a variation on this, I joined a different website, that's all.
Anyhow, with respect to OSS, would you like to back up your assertion about my having "no idea" of the concept behind it? For I suspect that the real reason why you and others have derided me when I've cited it previously, is that it makes it that much harder to dismiss me as a mere stirrer, and so tell me to "Feck off back where you came from".
Bit of a bummer that one, eh?  :D

I would suggest that getting out of your comfort zone and registering on a site such as this is indeed in keeping with the spirit of OSS. However it is your behaviour since you registered that would suggest you have no idea. As well as registering, you should try to understand the ethos and the reality of the GAA through involving yourself in debate on both sides of the board. The fact that your posts re. the GAA are almost exclusively negative would sugest you are neither interested in the GAA, furthering your knowledge of the GAA nor the OSS campaign.

Then your understanding of OSS must differ from mine. For as I see it, OSS does not actually require people to adopt the opinions, habits and practices of "the other community", but make an effort to understand them and communicate with them. That is what I seek to do by my presence on this Board. If you or other individual members don't like what I think, then so be it, but I am pleased to say that some other members do seem to appreciate my contribution, going by what they post, or from their pm's.
So why don't you join a Board like OWC, as e.g. Jim Murphy and Ziggy have done? I have been quite happy in the past to assist them and others from here when they have had queries/problems joining.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM
Nor will you see me tell you (or any other poster) to feck off back where you came from. There are a number of different types of poster who have come from owc. There are those whose sole interest is in soccer and demonstrate this through posting in a wide range of topics, there are those who were drawn to this site by the ramblings of Fearon and who are trying to right wrongs and yes, there are those here to simply stir shit. My view is that you fall into the latter category. Over two thousand posts later, for example, and we still don't know what club team you support. I won't ask any poster to feck off, I will do my best (through garbled syntax) to debate openly with them before I make up my mind about the type of poster they are. You will no doubt be interested to know that via a PM go-between, there is a standing invitation from me for Michael Boyd to come to our school to talk about FFA. I could show you other PMs from and to a range of owc posters that would make your assertion appear even more ridiculous than it does.

Several other posters have told me to "feck off", but I accept that you haven't. However, I have detected a distinct hostility from you, which more closely matches the attitude of the "Feck Off Brigade" than the majority of posters here who, insofar as they have any views on me (and I'm sure 99% don't give a bugger), are at least courteous and respectful.
And btw, I am a Spurs fan, but I choose not to debate that here, partly because I prefer a specialist soccer site like OWC, partly because I already spend enough time on this site and partly (mostly?) because I don't really care to be associated with Fearon, whose ramblings on Spurs I find to be cringeworthy in the extreme.
Of course, I am also an NI fan, and have posted extensively on that team on this forum. Maybe you hadn't noticed?  ;)
As for your invitation to Michael Boyd etc, that's great, but it doesn't alter the attitude you've displayed towards me (not that that attitude bothers or deters me, I should add, since my skin is sufficiently thick!)

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
Do us all a favour and begin to realise that there are people (themmuns if you like) who have a modicum of intelligence and then you have a chance of being taken somewhat more seriously by the discerning gaaboard poster.

I wasn't aware I owed you, never mind anyone else, a "favour", for so long as I comply with the Rules of the Board, I have every bit as much right to be here as everyone else. And I have my own opinions as to which are the intelligent and discerning posters whom I would like to take me seriously, thank you very much.
Speaking of which, I wouldn't like you to be under any illusions of your own inclusion within that (select) group - I'm actually replying at length to your post in the hope that one or two others might be interested.  :D

It says a lot of a person in that they will only do a favour if they feel they owe somebody one. What sort of world would we live in then?

You also make an assumptions about me, erroneously as it happens. I neither seek nor crave inclusion within your (select) group. I slept very soundly last night, the possibility of not being taken seriously by you being insufficient to keep me awake.

I am quite happy to take people at face value and do them a favour if I can, without expectation of any return. However, such is the antagonism I detect from you and certain others, I don't feel as if I owe you anything. Of course, I am sure that feeling is mutual; such is the world we live in.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM
I will leave with a few excerpts from your posts on this thread to show the true level of debate of which you are capable. I have never seen so much personal abuse in one thread.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:30:18 PM
Just because it took you an hour to read*, don't assume the rest of us move at your pace... ;)

* - Is the tip of your finger getting sore?  :D

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:19:57 PM
I didn't think it was a very hard distinction to grasp, but I'll spell it out for slow-learners like yourself.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM
In so far as I can decipher your garbled syntax,

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 05:02:08 PM
P.S. If by "essay" you are referring to that post (#85), then I'd suggest if you can only handle short words and the simplest of grammatical constructions, you'd be better off with the Beano.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 04:31:18 PM
Not even I could be bothered to reply to this inarticulate, ungrammatical rant, for it's pretty much total (ahem) carp,

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 04, 2009, 01:38:55 PM
P.S. If you must quote from Shakespeare, at least try to spell it correctly.  ::)

Such vile abuse! Will no-one think of the poor children... :D

P.S. May I assume you have already reported Double Cross and Pints of Guinness to the European Court of Human Rights or War Crimes Tribunal etc for their little "exchanges" on this thread? And that you haven't been reading e.g. the "Southerners/Freestaters" thread? Or does internecine feuding between Gaels not count as "personal abuse"?  ;)

You should be reported to the European Court of Quote Function & Quotation Mark Abuse Tribunal etc..  for that crime.

Quote from: Donagh on February 06, 2009, 01:20:58 PM
However as the thread has blatantly been started as a attack on another member, surely it breaks the feuding or personal abuse rules?

Since when has directing a challenge to someone to back up a (false) allegation they have been making about you constituted an "attack" or "personal abuse"? I could have asked Lynchboy about it in any of the threads where he repeated his accusation, but chose not to, since I didn't want to clog other peoples discussions with something which didn't concern them. (Of course, when I opened this thread, I didn't anticipate that Double Cross and Pints would choose it to conduct their "Late, Late Show", but I don't think I can be held responsible for that!)

Anyhow, by your hints about "personal abuse" etc, I get the impression* that you (and one or two others) are itching to get me banned. Go on, why not report me to the Mods - you know you want to!  :D


* - Or is that just paranoia deriving from my (ingrained) Hunnish Siege Mentality?  ;)

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM
So why don't you join a Board like OWC, as e.g. Jim Murphy and Ziggy have done? I have been quite happy in the past to assist them and others from here when they have had queries/problems joining.

Afair, both are banned/kicked off or denied access.

Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2009, 04:05:02 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM
So why don't you join a Board like OWC, as e.g. Jim Murphy and Ziggy have done? I have been quite happy in the past to assist them and others from here when they have had queries/problems joining.

Afair, both are banned/kicked off or denied access.

Good call, Main Street:
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=10708.0

P.S. When I say "Good" I mean "Total" and when I say "call" I mean "rubbish"... ::)

Who are you quoting?

On second thoughts, double cross must surely be 5times???

Not sure how I didnt cop it earlier.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 04:50:21 PM

Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2009, 04:05:02 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM
So why don't you join a Board like OWC, as e.g. Jim Murphy and Ziggy have done? I have been quite happy in the past to assist them and others from here when they have had queries/problems joining.

Afair, both are banned/kicked off or denied access.

Good call, Main Street:
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=10708.0

P.S. When I say "Good" I mean "Total" and when I say "call" I mean "rubbish"... ::)

Not total rubbish.
Can you not read?

I read from that thread, in the end it was total rubbish that they were banned or kicked off.
But I was correct to say that they were denied access.
I did leave a possibility of innocent causes.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:30:18 PM

Quote from: The Watcher Pat on February 05, 2009, 06:18:40 PM
That post there must have took a hour to write.....

Just because it took you an hour to read*, don't assume the rest of us move at your pace... ;)

* - Is the tip of your finger getting sore?  :D

I move at my own pace!! Never hurried or rushed..... ;)

Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2009, 05:43:08 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 04:50:21 PM

Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2009, 04:05:02 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM
So why don't you join a Board like OWC, as e.g. Jim Murphy and Ziggy have done? I have been quite happy in the past to assist them and others from here when they have had queries/problems joining.

Afair, both are banned/kicked off or denied access.

Good call, Main Street:
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=10708.0

P.S. When I say "Good" I mean "Total" and when I say "call" I mean "rubbish"... ::)

Not total rubbish.
Can you not read?

I read from that thread, in the end it was total rubbish that they were banned or kicked off.
But I was correct to say that they were denied access.
I did leave a possibility of innocent causes.

I can certainly read, at least when someone posts: "...both are banned/kicked off or denied access"


Neither was "banned". Neither was "kicked off". And neither was "denied access" on account of who they are (as you were clearly implying). Nor did you allude to the possibility of "innocent causes".

All those who join as an ordinary member enjoy exactly the same access rights. At times of exceptionally high traffic (usually around match time) the Board is sometimes temporarily available to Patrons only (to prevent it from crashing).

Both Ziggy and Jim are perfectly welcome to become Patrons by paying a (one-off) fiver, the proceeds of which go towards purchasing extra bandwidth. As such, they will enjoy exactly the same access as every other Patron.

P.S. There is no bulk discount for any individual who registers two or more identities on OWC - it's still £5.00 per User Name to become a Patron!  :D

P.P.S. Of course, there is no extra charge for someone who pays his fiver to become a Patron, then shares his Password with his mates, so they can all lurk have access to the Board... ;)

Quote from: The Watcher Pat on February 06, 2009, 05:45:48 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:30:18 PM

Quote from: The Watcher Pat on February 05, 2009, 06:18:40 PM
That post there must have took a hour to write.....

Just because it took you an hour to read*, don't assume the rest of us move at your pace... ;)

* - Is the tip of your finger getting sore?  :D

I move at my own pace!! Never hurried or rushed..... ;)

Does this mean you weren't offended by the "personal abusive" nature of my post, Pat?

Fair play to ye (though Saffron Sam 2 will be disappointed in your failing to maintain solidarity with all those oppressed by the big, bad Evil One's posts...)

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 06:19:18 PM


Neither was "banned". Neither was "kicked off". And neither was "denied access" on account of who they are (as you were clearly implying). Nor did you allude to the possibility of "innocent causes".

Reasonable doubt, which protects the innocent from cynical slurs.
My past form supports my record of leaving small letterboxes in doors to be flapped open, to account for a range of innocent possibilities as causes for events.

Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2009, 06:36:44 PM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 06:19:18 PM


Neither was "banned". Neither was "kicked off". And neither was "denied access" on account of who they are (as you were clearly implying). Nor did you allude to the possibility of "innocent causes".

Reasonable doubt, which protects the innocent from cynical slurs.
My past form supports my record of leaving small letterboxes in doors to be flapped open, to account for a range of innocent possibilities as causes for events.

So you want us to ignore the claimed "banned", "kicked-off" and even "denied access", whilst you rely on the possibility of "innocent causes" then, eh? That's "innocent causes" to which you didn't allude even obliquely, as is your wont.

Sorry, MS, but no amount of flim-flam about "small letter-boxes" and "flaps" etc will disguise the message you were clearly trying to send: namely, that OWC was discriminating against ordinary people like Ziggy and Jim, for no other reason than that they were GAA-types etc.

Whereas, as the thread in question clearly demonstrated, there was no such "conspiracy", merely a simple misunderstanding.

Still, at least Ziggy and Jim were entirely gracious about their mistake, unlike you. More to the point, they didn't repeat it, unlike you... ::)

Anyhow, any chance of you revealing the "common phrase" which betrays Myles Na G's hidden Unionist sympathies? Or do I/him/we have to wait for Little Jack Lynchbhoy to unveil it for us all to marvel at?  :D

(No hurry, btw, since I'm now due for my usual Friday evening appointment with a bottle - or two - of wine.)

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
I don't know if EG and Myles are one and the same, but I won't be losing any sleep over it. Both have used a phrase that I have only ever seen or heard on this board - even then it has only be used by two posters, EG and Myles.

What is that phrase?

The phrase shall remain undisclosed for now. If I was to disclose the phrase it would simply give you another opportunity to demonstrate your ignorance in the art of googling.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9862.30 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9862.30)

When both of you use the phrase again, I may tell you.

So you refer to an unspecified "phrase" to back up some point you are making, then when asked to state what it is, you decline, citing something vague about Googling.  ??? Sounds to me like you're a graduate of the "Main Street School of Internet Debating", with all the credibility that that confers.  ::)

The reference about googling isn't vague. Had you clicked on the link it would have shown where you proved yourself incapable of a relatively simple Internet search. If I give you the phrase, the first thing you are likely to do is google it to try to disprove my point. Therefore I am simply stopping you making an eejit out of yourself. Anyone who is interested in the phrase is welcome to PM me - some already have.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
If they are one and the same fair enough, but it takes a particular class of poster to deliberately claim to be something he's not.

But I am not the one who is claiming anything.  I'd say it takes a "certain class of poster" to conjure up such a conspiracy theory on the flimsiest of evidence, loudly (and proudly) proclaim it for all to hear, then when challenged to back it up, refuse to do so on the grounds of "Guilty until proven Innocent". (That's Lynchbhoy I'm referring to, in case you're wondering  ::))

I was talking about someone who would deliberately create a false identity, for example someone who would be from a unionist background who would set himself up on here as a nationalist, Celtic supporting, GAA hating individual. Now if (and it's a big if) this is what the poster MnaG is all about, then yes my comment is correct. The rest of your point may seem like a clever jibe to you, but in the context of the point which you appear to be trying to make, it's actually irrelevant bollix.

This thread concerns whether I am MNG or not. I am saying I'm not. No-one has produced any plausible evidence, never mind proof, that I am. And nor will they, since I, for one, know that I am not MNG. Now if MNG is not who he says he is, then that is for another thread and for others to debate, since I have no idea who he is, nor is it any of my business.

You will no doubt also be aware that I have stated that I am happy to accept that you are not he and he not you.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
nifan should know better. Let EG continue the debate he started, you are the one who is looking bad in this thread. Even well known members of the cavalry like ChrisOWC are giving this one a bye ball.

Until Lynchbhoy and others started getting personal with him, nifan's contributions were merely of a technical nature (how one might disguise ones identity over the internet etc). Since I am a bit of a dud on such matters, I was quite happy to let him get on with dealing with that. As for the reasons behind ChrisOWC's non-participation, you'd need to ask him, since I'm not him either, strangely enough... ::)

This post appears contradictory. You profess to being a dud, yet you start a thread with the swagger of a technological genius.

I know how to open a thread. That doesn't take "technological genius", merely the most basic of computer/messageboard knowledge. I am at a complete loss to know how to "swagger" in cyberspace.  ???

My post is not about opening a new thread. Your swaggering technological genius refers to the confidence with which you produced your pretty conclusive evidence (sic). But I think you knew that already.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
I would suggest that getting out of your comfort zone and registering on a site such as this is indeed in keeping with the spirit of OSS. However it is your behaviour since you registered that would suggest you have no idea. As well as registering, you should try to understand the ethos and the reality of the GAA through involving yourself in debate on both sides of the board. The fact that your posts re. the GAA are almost exclusively negative would sugest you are neither interested in the GAA, furthering your knowledge of the GAA nor the OSS campaign.

Then your understanding of OSS must differ from mine. For as I see it, OSS does not actually require people to adopt the opinions, habits and practices of "the other community", but make an effort to understand them and communicate with them. That is what I seek to do by my presence on this Board. If you or other individual members don't like what I think, then so be it, but I am pleased to say that some other members do seem to appreciate my contribution, going by what they post, or from their pm's.
So why don't you join a Board like OWC, as e.g. Jim Murphy and Ziggy have done? I have been quite happy in the past to assist them and others from here when they have had queries/problems joining.

Nowhere have I ever suggested that OSS is about adopting the opinions, habits and practices of "the other community" - it clearly isn't. What I did was suggest that you should try to understand the ethos and the reality of the GAA through involving yourself in debate on both sides of the board. You have suggested that my understanding is wrong, that one should but make an effort to understand them ["the other community"] and communicate with them. I am really at a loss to understand the difference between the two emboldened quotes.

Whilst I don't agree with a lot of what you post, I respect your right to post it. Where I don't agree I will explain why I don't, simple as that.

As to why I don't join OWC, the most obvious one is to do with how admin on that site will deal with any personal information I supply them. There would unquestionably be posts I would make that the mods would disagree with and I am not prepared to take any chances. At least one moderator there has already stated that, in his time posting here he would single me out for particular treatment.

If I was to join OWC, I would have to limit myself to threads that are not about the GAA. I find it difficult to understand the depth of hatred from several posters on that site, many posting from a level that verges on extreme ignorance. Fair play to those who do defend the GAA from unwarranted criticism, but in my opinion these threads take away from what is (or was when I lurked) a very informative site for the average football fan.

Also I don't see how me registering on OWC would or should be seen as being linked to OSS. I have an interest in many sports, I certainly feel that I could hold my own on soccer debates (at all levels of soccer in NI) with the majority of posters there.

Furthermore, if I did register I would use the same username as I do here.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM
Nor will you see me tell you (or any other poster) to feck off back where you came from. There are a number of different types of poster who have come from owc. There are those whose sole interest is in soccer and demonstrate this through posting in a wide range of topics, there are those who were drawn to this site by the ramblings of Fearon and who are trying to right wrongs and yes, there are those here to simply stir shit. My view is that you fall into the latter category. Over two thousand posts later, for example, and we still don't know what club team you support. I won't ask any poster to feck off, I will do my best (through garbled syntax) to debate openly with them before I make up my mind about the type of poster they are. You will no doubt be interested to know that via a PM go-between, there is a standing invitation from me for Michael Boyd to come to our school to talk about FFA. I could show you other PMs from and to a range of owc posters that would make your assertion appear even more ridiculous than it does.

Several other posters have told me to "feck off", but I accept that you haven't. However, I have detected a distinct hostility from you, which more closely matches the attitude of the "Feck Off Brigade" than the majority of posters here who, insofar as they have any views on me (and I'm sure 99% don't give a bugger), are at least courteous and respectful.

I haven't, nor will I ever tell you or any other poster to feck off. Except in the bard of dunclug post and that was a poem that he sort of penned himself. Nor are my posts hostile. They are the result of reading yours and carefully analysing them. You won't get a pat on the back from every poster.  I don't agree with everything you post - I will highlight those areas that I don't. Same as with every other poster I have time to deal with. Does every other poster from owc who posts here sense the same hostility from me? When you deserve credit in a post, I will give you that due credit (as I did when you used new words or were witty on the GSTW thread). When you deserve to be taken to task for a post, I will do that and continue to do that. There will be no hostility, nor will there be a nodding acceptance that everything you say is correct.

QuoteAnd btw, I am a Spurs fan, but I choose not to debate that here, partly because I prefer a specialist soccer site like OWC, partly because I already spend enough time on this site and partly (mostly?) because I don't really care to be associated with Fearon, whose ramblings on Spurs I find to be cringeworthy in the extreme.

So you don't debate Spurs because this isn't a specialist soccer site, but you have no problems debating politics here. Is this a specialist politics site? I would suggest there are other better sites where you could debate these issues. I fully accept your point re. Anthony but that hasn't stopped one other poster from owc admitting his interest in Spurs.

QuoteOf course, I am also an NI fan, and have posted extensively on that team on this forum. Maybe you hadn't noticed?  ;)
As for your invitation to Michael Boyd etc, that's great, but it doesn't alter the attitude you've displayed towards me (not that that attitude bothers or deters me, I should add, since my skin is sufficiently thick!)

Any perceived attitude towards you is based solely on your posts here.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM

It says a lot of a person in that they will only do a favour if they feel they owe somebody one. What sort of world would we live in then?

You also make an assumptions about me, erroneously as it happens. I neither seek nor crave inclusion within your (select) group. I slept very soundly last night, the possibility of not being taken seriously by you being insufficient to keep me awake.

I am quite happy to take people at face value and do them a favour if I can, without expectation of any return. However, such is the antagonism I detect from you and certain others, I don't feel as if I owe you anything. Of course, I am sure that feeling is mutual; such is the world we live in.

Whilst I may not feel as if I owe you anything (other than the courtesy of a reply to your post), if I can I will do anyone a favour. For example, I Pmed a poster who joined from owc to tell him he had forgotten to hide his email address. I regret not doing that for the bard, but I genuinely thought his email address was a piss take.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM
I will leave with a few excerpts from your posts on this thread to show the true level of debate of which you are capable. I have never seen so much personal abuse in one thread.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:30:18 PM
Just because it took you an hour to read*, don't assume the rest of us move at your pace... ;)

* - Is the tip of your finger getting sore?  :D

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:19:57 PM
I didn't think it was a very hard distinction to grasp, but I'll spell it out for slow-learners like yourself.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM
In so far as I can decipher your garbled syntax,

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 05:02:08 PM
P.S. If by "essay" you are referring to that post (#85), then I'd suggest if you can only handle short words and the simplest of grammatical constructions, you'd be better off with the Beano.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 04:31:18 PM
Not even I could be bothered to reply to this inarticulate, ungrammatical rant, for it's pretty much total (ahem) carp,

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 04, 2009, 01:38:55 PM
P.S. If you must quote from Shakespeare, at least try to spell it correctly.  ::)

Such vile abuse! Will no-one think of the poor children... :D

P.S. May I assume you have already reported Double Cross and Pints of Guinness to the European Court of Human Rights or War Crimes Tribunal etc for their little "exchanges" on this thread? And that you haven't been reading e.g. the "Southerners/Freestaters" thread? Or does internecine feuding between Gaels not count as "personal abuse"?  ;)

My point was that had you been so sure of your position and your debating skills, you would not have had to resort to abusing six posters on one thread about their grammar. But I think you knew that already.  The rest of that quote is irrelevant whataboutery.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:36:50 PM

Quote from: Donagh on February 06, 2009, 01:20:58 PM
However as the thread has blatantly been started as a attack on another member, surely it breaks the feuding or personal abuse rules?

Since when has directing a challenge to someone to back up a (false) allegation they have been making about you constituted an "attack" or "personal abuse"? I could have asked Lynchboy about it in any of the threads where he repeated his accusation, but chose not to, since I didn't want to clog other peoples discussions with something which didn't concern them. (Of course, when I opened this thread, I didn't anticipate that Double Cross and Pints would choose it to conduct their "Late, Late Show", but I don't think I can be held responsible for that!)

Anyhow, by your hints about "personal abuse" etc, I get the impression* that you (and one or two others) are itching to get me banned. Go on, why not report me to the Mods - you know you want to!  :D


* - Or is that just paranoia deriving from my (ingrained) Hunnish Siege Mentality?  ;)

Are you including me in that list of one or two others. If yes, please re-read what I wrote when you were previously banned. If no, please accept my apologies.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 07:10:20 PM
Whereas, as the thread in question clearly demonstrated, there was no such "conspiracy", merely a simple misunderstanding.

I accepted that unreservedly.

QuoteStill, at least Ziggy and Jim were entirely gracious about their mistake, unlike you. More to the point, they didn't repeat it, unlike you... ::)

Maybe they had read the thread to its conclusion, I hadn't.
That's why I  installed a ?
If I had read that thread to its conclusion, I would have remembered that it was concluded in such a way.

QuoteAnyhow, any chance of you revealing the "common phrase" which betrays Myles Na G's hidden Unionist sympathies? Or do I/him/we have to wait for Little Jack Lynchbhoy to unveil it for us all to marvel at?  :D

Why are you implying that I wrote about a  "common phrase" which betrays Myles, why are you using quotes?
WTF are you playing at?
Or, are you YET AGAIN surmising, quoting what passes for your surmises as fact
and planting it as if it is something I wrote.

As you are not a total internet retard as you can use the search button you can find out out what I wrote.
I have already clearly replied to the Evil Myles
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=11047.msg472684#msg472684 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=11047.msg472684#msg472684)

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
I don't know if EG and Myles are one and the same, but I won't be losing any sleep over it. Both have used a phrase that I have only ever seen or heard on this board - even then it has only be used by two posters, EG and Myles.

What is that phrase?

The phrase shall remain undisclosed for now. If I was to disclose the phrase it would simply give you another opportunity to demonstrate your ignorance in the art of googling.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9862.30 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9862.30)

When both of you use the phrase again, I may tell you.

So you refer to an unspecified "phrase" to back up some point you are making, then when asked to state what it is, you decline, citing something vague about Googling.  ??? Sounds to me like you're a graduate of the "Main Street School of Internet Debating", with all the credibility that that confers.  ::)

This needs a separate post of its own. My initial post stated that both EG and Myles have used a phrase that I have only ever seen or heard on this board and  even then it has only be used by those two posters. I should have taken the time to read every single post on the site or at least search the site for other usage of the phrase and I would have found quite a few posters who used the term, including FOSB and Donagh.

Please disregard any reference to this point. It is, not for the first (or indeed the last time) irrelevant bollix.

ss2.

Just popped in for an update on this thread. Has anyone lost an eye yet?  ;D

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 09, 2009, 12:08:27 PM
My initial post stated that both EG and Myles have used a phrase that I have only ever seen or heard on this board and  even then it has only be used by those two posters. I should have taken the time to read every single post on the site or at least search the site for other usage of the phrase and I would have found quite a few posters who used the term, including FOSB and Donagh.

What was the phrase SS?

QuoteI haven't, nor will I ever tell you or any other poster to feck off. Except in the bard of dunclug post and that was a poem that he sort of penned himself. Nor are my posts hostile. They are the result of reading yours and carefully analysing them. You won't get a pat on the back from every poster.  I don't agree with everything you post - I will highlight those areas that I don't. Same as with every other poster I have time to deal with. Does every other poster from owc who posts here sense the same hostility from me?

EG I have to agree with SS here. From my point of view we have not always agreed on everything, but I find hes  good enough to argue his points, and not come out with the generalisations that some others tend to.

Quote from: his holiness nb on February 06, 2009, 01:36:33 PM
Worst thread ever.

And who is this double cross fella?

Is that snowed under etc?

I dunno who double cross is, but from just reading the last few pages of this thread he's doing my head in.   >:(

I hope he doesn't offer to "make arrangements" with me now as well  ;)

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 09, 2009, 11:10:06 AM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
I don't know if EG and Myles are one and the same, but I won't be losing any sleep over it. Both have used a phrase that I have only ever seen or heard on this board - even then it has only be used by two posters, EG and Myles.

What is that phrase?

The phrase shall remain undisclosed for now. If I was to disclose the phrase it would simply give you another opportunity to demonstrate your ignorance in the art of googling.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9862.30 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9862.30)

When both of you use the phrase again, I may tell you.

So you refer to an unspecified "phrase" to back up some point you are making, then when asked to state what it is, you decline, citing something vague about Googling.  ??? Sounds to me like you're a graduate of the "Main Street School of Internet Debating", with all the credibility that that confers.  ::)

The reference about googling isn't vague. Had you clicked on the link it would have shown where you proved yourself incapable of a relatively simple Internet search. If I give you the phrase, the first thing you are likely to do is google it to try to disprove my point. Therefore I am simply stopping you making an eejit out of yourself. Anyone who is interested in the phrase is welcome to PM me - some already have.

Your concern for my credibility is touching, but I am quite happy to take my chance on being judged an eejit, so why not just tell everyone what this mysterious phrase is? Why must it remain confidential? And why, if I am one of only two posters who uses it, would I need to Google it, correctly or otherwise?  ???

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 09, 2009, 11:10:06 AM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 05, 2009, 06:08:24 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
nifan should know better. Let EG continue the debate he started, you are the one who is looking bad in this thread. Even well known members of the cavalry like ChrisOWC are giving this one a bye ball.

Until Lynchbhoy and others started getting personal with him, nifan's contributions were merely of a technical nature (how one might disguise ones identity over the internet etc). Since I am a bit of a dud on such matters, I was quite happy to let him get on with dealing with that. As for the reasons behind ChrisOWC's non-participation, you'd need to ask him, since I'm not him either, strangely enough... ::)

This post appears contradictory. You profess to being a dud, yet you start a thread with the swagger of a technological genius.

I know how to open a thread. That doesn't take "technological genius", merely the most basic of computer/messageboard knowledge. I am at a complete loss to know how to "swagger" in cyberspace.  ???

My post is not about opening a new thread. Your swaggering technological genius refers to the confidence with which you produced your pretty conclusive evidence (sic). But I think you knew that already.

I was pretty confident that the evidence I produced that MNG and I are separate posters (i.e. near simultaneous posting) was conclusive. For whilst (as I now know) certain people might be able to fake that through their use of technology, I certainly couldn't, as anyone who knows about me can confirm.
The fact that not one poster has come out in support of LB's hair-brained conspiracy would indicate my confidence was not misplaced.
As to whether I was "swaggering" or not, I'll leave for others to judge.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 09, 2009, 11:10:06 AM
Nowhere have I ever suggested that OSS is about adopting the opinions, habits and practices of "the other community" - it clearly isn't. What I did was suggest that you should try to understand the ethos and the reality of the GAA through involving yourself in debate on both sides of the board. You have suggested that my understanding is wrong, that one should but make an effort to understand them ["the other community"] and communicate with them. I am really at a loss to understand the difference between the two emboldened quotes.

One of the reasons I joined this Board (though not the only one) derives from OSS. Now you are correct that I've never posted (except once or twice?) on the other part of the Board. But that is because I know so little about the actual games themselves that I am unqualified to contribute. That does not mean I'm not interested in learning about the games specifically, or the GAA generally, which is why I do browse that section from time-to-time. Indeed, I am happy to admit I have had a number of my preconceptions challenged and/or corrected by doing so.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 09, 2009, 11:10:06 AM
Whilst I don't agree with a lot of what you post, I respect your right to post it. Where I don't agree I will explain why I don't, simple as that.

Fair enough. From having re-read this thread (and others), I realise I was being unfair/lazy in lumping you in with those whom I call "the usual suspects", i.e. those who seem only to have to see my name on the Board to pile in and have a pop, irrespective of what I've actually posted and disregarding others who are committing the same "offences" (or worse) as I get accused of.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 09, 2009, 11:10:06 AM


As to why I don't join OWC, the most obvious one is to do with how admin on that site will deal with any personal information I supply them. There would unquestionably be posts I would make that the mods would disagree with and I am not prepared to take any chances. At least one moderator there has already stated that, in his time posting here he would single me out for particular treatment.

If I was to join OWC, I would have to limit myself to threads that are not about the GAA. I find it difficult to understand the depth of hatred from several posters on that site, many posting from a level that verges on extreme ignorance. Fair play to those who do defend the GAA from unwarranted criticism, but in my opinion these threads take away from what is (or was when I lurked) a very informative site for the average football fan.

Also I don't see how me registering on OWC would or should be seen as being linked to OSS. I have an interest in many sports, I certainly feel that I could hold my own on soccer debates (at all levels of soccer in NI) with the majority of posters there.

Furthermore, if I did register I would use the same username as I do here.

I don't understand. I thought you were not a Member of OWC, yet you refer to having "lurked" there in the past. Was this before they closed certain/most of the sections to non-patrons? Or are you a Member, but don't actually post (for fear of drawing unwelcome attention to yourself from the Mods etc)? And the Mod to whom you referred as "singling you out", did he do so on this site, or on OWC itself?
Frankly, there seems to me to be a lot of suspicion on this site from people who (no doubt sincerely) fear that their joining OWC will somehow leave them open to abuse or special treatment.
Some of this stems from simple misunderstanding. An example of this was that of Jim Murphy (and Ziggy), who was temporarily "locked-out" from OWC, for entirely unsinister reasons, which some people clearly misunderstood. Moreover, from the reaction to Jim's thread by one or two individuals, this perceived "discrimination" against him clearly "confirmed" long-held prejudices of theirs against OWC, which lingered even after the original misunderstanding had been cleared up.
And I daresay some (much?) of GAABoarders' fears stem from Fearon. One example was when he was visited at his place of work by Mac, a prominent OWC member. Now from his love of publicity and his use of his real User Name, TF's identity/location etc is not hard to discern. Moreover, his workplace is/was entirely open for anyone to walk in off the street. And I know that Mac's intentions were entirely above board, as was acknowledged (tbf) by TF himself. Consequently, the two seem to have had an entirely amicable chat, which even led to TF promising to desist from personal attacks on NI fans etc (Predictably, it didn't last).
Another occasion was when TF made some incredibly insensitive and offensive personal comments about an NI fan who was the victim of a vicious and unprovoked attack in Bratislava. This was brought to the attention of (I think) the victim's father, who deduced that it must have been posted by TF whilst he was in work. Consequently, it seems the outraged father's reference to TF's workplace was posted on OWC for a short period, before a Mod saw it and deleted it.
Anyhow, I have seen more than one prominent poster on this Board cite (misrepresent, actually) one or both of those two incidents as "proof" of how "dangerous" it is  for GAABoarders to post on OWC.
Ironically, one of the worst for this is someone who briefly joined OWC himself, was not abuse personally or the subject of unwarranted treatment etc, yet on any occasion he refers to OWC since, never misses the chance to denigrate it... :D
As for those few individuals on OWC who do, indeed, hate GAA, I can assure you that they have their counterparts on here, who hate "soccer" with equal vehemence. I do not see why the soccer-haters should deter me from posting here, just as those GAA-friendly posters on OWC are obviously not deterred over there, either.
Therefore, there is no more need for you to avoid the GAA section of OWC than any other GAA-friendly members of OWC, such as PatB, Belfast Owl, DinnyLTFC or even JamesR... ;)
P.S. If your reference to using the same User Name on both sites is a dig at me, iirc I tried without success to register mine on here before adopting "Evil Genius"; it was the period when the Board seemed to be moving all the time, and I got fed up with a succession of failed attempts at Registration. Nothing sinister and no big deal, really.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 09, 2009, 11:10:06 AM

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM
Nor will you see me tell you (or any other poster) to feck off back where you came from. There are a number of different types of poster who have come from owc. There are those whose sole interest is in soccer and demonstrate this through posting in a wide range of topics, there are those who were drawn to this site by the ramblings of Fearon and who are trying to right wrongs and yes, there are those here to simply stir shit. My view is that you fall into the latter category. Over two thousand posts later, for example, and we still don't know what club team you support. I won't ask any poster to feck off, I will do my best (through garbled syntax) to debate openly with them before I make up my mind about the type of poster they are. You will no doubt be interested to know that via a PM go-between, there is a standing invitation from me for Michael Boyd to come to our school to talk about FFA. I could show you other PMs from and to a range of owc posters that would make your assertion appear even more ridiculous than it does.

Several other posters have told me to "feck off", but I accept that you haven't. However, I have detected a distinct hostility from you, which more closely matches the attitude of the "Feck Off Brigade" than the majority of posters here who, insofar as they have any views on me (and I'm sure 99% don't give a bugger), are at least courteous and respectful.

I haven't, nor will I ever tell you or any other poster to feck off. Except in the bard of dunclug post and that was a poem that he sort of penned himself. Nor are my posts hostile. They are the result of reading yours and carefully analysing them. You won't get a pat on the back from every poster.  I don't agree with everything you post - I will highlight those areas that I don't. Same as with every other poster I have time to deal with. Does every other poster from owc who posts here sense the same hostility from me? When you deserve credit in a post, I will give you that due credit (as I did when you used new words or were witty on the GSTW thread). When you deserve to be taken to task for a post, I will do that and continue to do that. There will be no hostility, nor will there be a nodding acceptance that everything you say is correct.

QuoteAnd btw, I am a Spurs fan, but I choose not to debate that here, partly because I prefer a specialist soccer site like OWC, partly because I already spend enough time on this site and partly (mostly?) because I don't really care to be associated with Fearon, whose ramblings on Spurs I find to be cringeworthy in the extreme.

So you don't debate Spurs because this isn't a specialist soccer site, but you have no problems debating politics here. Is this a specialist politics site? I would suggest there are other better sites where you could debate these issues. I fully accept your point re. Anthony but that hasn't stopped one other poster from owc admitting his interest in Spurs.

QuoteOf course, I am also an NI fan, and have posted extensively on that team on this forum. Maybe you hadn't noticed?  ;)
As for your invitation to Michael Boyd etc, that's great, but it doesn't alter the attitude you've displayed towards me (not that that attitude bothers or deters me, I should add, since my skin is sufficiently thick!)

Any perceived attitude towards you is based solely on your posts here.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 11:48:31 AM

It says a lot of a person in that they will only do a favour if they feel they owe somebody one. What sort of world would we live in then?

You also make an assumptions about me, erroneously as it happens. I neither seek nor crave inclusion within your (select) group. I slept very soundly last night, the possibility of not being taken seriously by you being insufficient to keep me awake.

I am quite happy to take people at face value and do them a favour if I can, without expectation of any return. However, such is the antagonism I detect from you and certain others, I don't feel as if I owe you anything. Of course, I am sure that feeling is mutual; such is the world we live in.

Whilst I may not feel as if I owe you anything (other than the courtesy of a reply to your post), if I can I will do anyone a favour. For example, I Pmed a poster who joined from owc to tell him he had forgotten to hide his email address. I regret not doing that for the bard, but I genuinely thought his email address was a piss take.

No doubt you consider yourself to be reasonable and objective when engaging with posters like me (fair enough, no-one ever considers themselves unreasonable, myself included!) Yet in the midst of a lengthy post where you seem to be saying I've got a bad attitude, and/or get things out of proportion, and/or am not adopting an appropriately open and generous manner etc etc, you label me a mere "shit-stirrer"  ::).
There are many other posters who disagree with me just as much as you, but they at least do me the courtesy of respecting my motives. Oh well, such is life.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 09, 2009, 11:10:06 AM
My point was that had you been so sure of your position and your debating skills, you would not have had to resort to abusing six posters on one thread about their grammar. But I think you knew that already.  The rest of that quote is irrelevant whataboutery.

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 06, 2009, 03:36:50 PM

Quote from: Donagh on February 06, 2009, 01:20:58 PM
However as the thread has blatantly been started as a attack on another member, surely it breaks the feuding or personal abuse rules?

Since when has directing a challenge to someone to back up a (false) allegation they have been making about you constituted an "attack" or "personal abuse"? I could have asked Lynchboy about it in any of the threads where he repeated his accusation, but chose not to, since I didn't want to clog other peoples discussions with something which didn't concern them. (Of course, when I opened this thread, I didn't anticipate that Double Cross and Pints would choose it to conduct their "Late, Late Show", but I don't think I can be held responsible for that!)

Anyhow, by your hints about "personal abuse" etc, I get the impression* that you (and one or two others) are itching to get me banned. Go on, why not report me to the Mods - you know you want to!  :D


* - Or is that just paranoia deriving from my (ingrained) Hunnish Siege Mentality?  ;)

Are you including me in that list of one or two others. If yes, please re-read what I wrote when you were previously banned. If no, please accept my apologies.

The little collection of jibes by me which you painstakingly compiled seems to have got to you, doesn't it? Was it my reference to your "garbled syntax", perhaps? Anyhow, I entirely fail to see how it was anything more than the normal "rough and tumble" which goes with robust debate on this site - and certainly a lot less personal and abusive than some of the shit I get called here, for that matter.
As for your closing question, no, I don't consider you to be one of those who would see me banned, so no need to apologise.

P.S. Re your reference to my "whataboutery", you misunderstand the term. "Whataboutery" is where someone is accused of something, and seeks to excuse himself by claiming it somehow doesn't count, since someone else did something even worse elsewhere. I was not attempting to avoid responsibility for what I posted:  I happily stand by it.
Instead, I was referring to your double-standards, whereby you claimed never to have seen such "abuse" as I posted here, when any number of other threads have much worse from others, without seeming to bother you similarly.

OK EG you can stop now.
You've won the longest internet forum post ever award. :D

Quote from: Rossfan on February 09, 2009, 06:51:47 PM
OK EG you can stop now.
You've won the longest internet forum post ever award. :D

Not to mention the most full of sh&t

Well done Evil Myles  :D

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 09, 2009, 05:38:03 PM
Your concern for my credibility is touching, but I am quite happy to take my chance on being judged an eejit, so why not just tell everyone what this mysterious phrase is? Why must it remain confidential? And why, if I am one of only two posters who uses it, would I need to Google it, correctly or otherwise?  ???

As I have explained above in a separate post, the phrase is in much more common usage than I thought. If I post it here you can assume that it will become even more common. Every smart arsed clown on the board will use it response to my posts; Chrisowc may even use it as his signature. I have also explained why you would google it. I gave an example where you googled goal famine (wrongly as it happens) to try to prove a point. I don't see why you would do anything different here.

Quote
I was pretty confident that the evidence I produced that MNG and I are separate posters (i.e. near simultaneous posting) was conclusive. For whilst (as I now know) certain people might be able to fake that through their use of technology, I certainly couldn't, as anyone who knows about me can confirm.
The fact that not one poster has come out in support of LB's hair-brained conspiracy would indicate my confidence was not misplaced.
As to whether I was "swaggering" or not, I'll leave for others to judge.

Several posters, though, have come out in support of the idea that your pretty conclusive evidence is every bit as hair-brained.

Quote

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 09, 2009, 11:10:06 AM
Nowhere have I ever suggested that OSS is about adopting the opinions, habits and practices of "the other community" - it clearly isn't. What I did was suggest that you should try to understand the ethos and the reality of the GAA through involving yourself in debate on both sides of the board. You have suggested that my understanding is wrong, that one should but make an effort to understand them ["the other community"] and communicate with them. I am really at a loss to understand the difference between the two emboldened quotes.

One of the reasons I joined this Board (though not the only one) derives from OSS. Now you are correct that I've never posted (except once or twice?) on the other part of the Board. But that is because I know so little about the actual games themselves that I am unqualified to contribute. That does not mean I'm not interested in learning about the games specifically, or the GAA generally, which is why I do browse that section from time-to-time. Indeed, I am happy to admit I have had a number of my preconceptions challenged and/or corrected by doing so.

Why did you quote me here, yet not even attempt to answer the question I asked? So, I'll ask it again. What is the difference in my understanding of OSS (you should try to understand the ethos and the reality of the GAA through involving yourself in debate on both sides of the board) and yours (make an effort to understand them ["the other community"] and communicate with them)? Both would appear to be suggesting an attempt to understand, yet you suggest mine is different from yours.

QuoteI don't understand. I thought you were not a Member of OWC, yet you refer to having "lurked" there in the past. Was this before they closed certain/most of the sections to non-patrons? Or are you a Member, but don't actually post (for fear of drawing unwelcome attention to yourself from the Mods etc)? And the Mod to whom you referred as "singling you out", did he do so on this site, or on OWC itself?

I am not a member of owc, never have been and most likely never will be. My lurking was indeed before most sections were closed off. The Mod in question knew that I was lurking and the posts to which I refer were made on owc. Still, he didn't visit me at work. Hope that clears that up a bit for you.

QuoteFrankly, there seems to me to be a lot of suspicion on this site from people who (no doubt sincerely) fear that their joining OWC will somehow leave them open to abuse or special treatment.

That is indeed correct, although the first example of personal and work details being published had nothing to do with site. A Derry City fan annoyed wee Marty (the mod, not McGuinness) sufficiently for his work email to be displayed for everyone to see. If this thread is no longer on owc, I will happily give you the email address so you can contact him yourself to verify my story.

QuoteSome of this stems from simple misunderstanding. An example of this was that of Jim Murphy (and Ziggy), who was temporarily "locked-out" from OWC, for entirely unsinister reasons, which some people clearly misunderstood. Moreover, from the reaction to Jim's thread by one or two individuals, this perceived "discrimination" against him clearly "confirmed" long-held prejudices of theirs against OWC, which lingered even after the original misunderstanding had been cleared up.

None of my concerns would have evolved from either of the two posters named above. it is quite clear that both, on these occasions demonstrated the technological wizardry of a 'dud'.

QuoteAnd I daresay some (much?) of GAABoarders' fears stem from Fearon. One example was when he was visited at his place of work by Mac, a prominent OWC member. Now from his love of publicity and his use of his real User Name, TF's identity/location etc is not hard to discern. Moreover, his workplace is/was entirely open for anyone to walk in off the street. And I know that Mac's intentions were entirely above board, as was acknowledged (tbf) by TF himself. Consequently, the two seem to have had an entirely amicable chat, which even led to TF promising to desist from personal attacks on NI fans etc (Predictably, it didn't last).

The Mac / TF thing didn't bother me in the slightest, in fact he would also be welcome at my place of work (Mac that is, not Fearon, although he would be asked to clarify his GAA / Madrid bombing line). It should also be pointed out that imo this was Mac's second attempt to ambush TF. The portly one was trying to arrange a pre-match pint with GSpain before a ROI match and who should be GS's guest on the same night only Mac. Possibly coincidental, but TF didn't weigh in that night - something about having to buy tickets.

QuoteAnother occasion was when TF made some incredibly insensitive and offensive personal comments about an NI fan who was the victim of a vicious and unprovoked attack in Bratislava. This was brought to the attention of (I think) the victim's father, who deduced that it must have been posted by TF whilst he was in work. Consequently, it seems the outraged father's reference to TF's workplace was posted on OWC for a short period, before a Mod saw it and deleted it.

The line posted by TF, whilst in bad taste and not particularly funny, was neither incredibly insensitive nor offensive, whereas the posting of his workplace details was an extremely over the top reaction. 

QuoteAnyhow, I have seen more than one prominent poster on this Board cite (misrepresent, actually) one or both of those two incidents as "proof" of how "dangerous" it is for GAABoarders to post on OWC.

It's not specifically dangerous for gaaboarders, rather for those who have the temerity to disagree with at least one of the moderators.

QuoteAs for those few individuals on OWC who do, indeed, hate GAA, I can assure you that they have their counterparts on here, who hate "soccer" with equal vehemence.

Can you name some of these soccer haters for me?

QuoteP.S. If your reference to using the same User Name on both sites is a dig at me, iirc I tried without success to register mine on here before adopting "Evil Genius"; it was the period when the Board seemed to be moving all the time, and I got fed up with a succession of failed attempts at Registration. Nothing sinister and no big deal, really.

Yes, that clears that up for me. Here was me thinking that unlike Mac, SammyG, big Roger etc, the likes of yourself, nifan, evil Myles et al. didn't have the courage of your convictions.

QuoteNo doubt you consider yourself to be reasonable and objective when engaging with posters like me (fair enough, no-one ever considers themselves unreasonable, myself included!) Yet in the midst of a lengthy post where you seem to be saying I've got a bad attitude, and/or get things out of proportion, and/or am not adopting an appropriately open and generous manner etc etc, you label me a mere "shit-stirrer"   .
There are many other posters who disagree with me just as much as you, but they at least do me the courtesy of respecting my motives. Oh well, such is life.

As I have said before my opinion of you is based on your posts. I have been reasonable with you when reason is appropriate. I don't think the use of the term "shit-stirrer" to describe you is unreasonable, but as you say others will disagree. 

QuoteThe little collection of jibes by me which you painstakingly compiled seems to have got to you, doesn't it?

You appear not to understand the meaning of the word painstaking. Climbing the last 100 yards up Mount Everest would be painstaking; building a life-sized model of the Titanic from matchsticks would be painstaking; copying the entire works of Shakespeare on to a grain of rice would be painstaking; using the View Last Posts of This Member facility of the gaaboard certainly isn't painstaking. Nor is quoting them in another post.

QuoteWas it my reference to your "garbled syntax", perhaps?

No, initially it was your response to Lynchbhoy's post and Gab's reply to it. Then I noticed the pattern. Regardless of whether or not you highlighted my garbled syntax, I would still have made the post.

QuoteAnyhow, I entirely fail to see how it was anything more than the normal "rough and tumble" which goes with robust debate on this site - and certainly a lot less personal and abusive than some of the shit I get called here, for that matter.

Whilst the nature of your posts wasn't particularly offensive, taken together (six posts on one thread aimed at six individual posters) they are certainly more than the normal "rough and tumble". I believe you call it "playing the man".

QuoteP.S. Re your reference to my "whataboutery", you misunderstand the term. "Whataboutery" is where someone is accused of something, and seeks to excuse himself by claiming it somehow doesn't count, since someone else did something even worse elsewhere. I was not attempting to avoid responsibility for what I posted:  I happily stand by it.

As sure as night follows day, when I introduce the term whataboutery you will claim that I misunderstand the meaning. Interestingly the meaning has changed here.

QuoteInstead, I was referring to your double-standards, whereby you claimed never to have seen such "abuse" as I posted here, when any number of other threads have much worse from others, without seeming to bother you similarly.

No double standards here. I have never seen a thread before where one poster has abused six separate posters, almost in consecutive posts. If you find one (never mind any number), let me know. I will certainly comment on it in the same manner as I have here.

Saffron, whatever about the misunderstanding about posters being "banned" from OWC when they werent, I can only speak for myself from my own personal experience on there.

I joined, and posted a few polite posts in defence of the GAA. If I recall correctly Nicky Brennan was referring to an Ulster Championship game between a team from the six counties versus a team from the 26 counties. Brennan mentioned "football in Ulster" and he was slated on there by people saying he refused to say "Northern Ireland" as if it were some political stance. I just posted to explain that as the game involved one team from outside of "Northern Ireland" then it wouldnt make sense to say anything but Ulster.

Once it was out that I dared to make the slightest defense of anything GAA I was personally abused by several posters and every possible gripe Unionists can have with the GAA were thrown at me, and I was even slated on this site for not replying to all those gripes! The mods on there even stated that the GAA was a "racist organisation".

By all means, try it yourself, but I was most certainly not made welcome over there.

I honestly thought that if I remained polite and stated my point without aggression I might be accepted there, this was not the case.

So I left, and have been accused of running off with my tail between my legs since then. Truth is, why would I bother staying on a site where people are consistantly rude and abusive to you?

Doesnt make sense. Thank god this site is a little more tolerant.

Yes there are exceptions. And rows with guys from OWC, but not purely because they are from OWC, which is the big difference.

The people who claim to be victims on here dish out as much abuses as they get, if not more.
I dont want to get into the old Evil Genius versus His Holiness carry on again, but despite claiming to be victimised by the "usual suspects" of which no doubt I am one of, he has actually been banned twice for comments directed at me, where I've obeyed the site rules and instructions of mods. So who is victimising who over here?

Guys like Nifan prove that its about what you post, not where you came from, that matters on here. Obviously theres a tiny few who are always suspicious, but nothing like the sheer volume of hatred displayed on OWC.

As I've said though, thats just my experience, maybe others will have better experiences over there.

But be careful with your personal information, no amount of justification or "TF didnt mind" can excuse people posting the personal information of their critics, or indeed turning up unannounced to somebodies workplace to confront them over comments made on a website, and boasting later on OWC about how "timid" said poster was once confronted.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 10, 2009, 10:07:34 AM
As I have explained above in a separate post, the phrase is in much more common usage than I thought. If I post it here you can assume that it will become even more common. Every smart arsed clown on the board will use it response to my posts; Chrisowc may even use it as his signature. I have also explained why you would google it. I gave an example where you googled goal famine (wrongly as it happens) to try to prove a point. I don't see why you would do anything different here.

Aw diddums

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 10, 2009, 10:07:34 AM
Several posters, though, have come out in support of the idea that your pretty conclusive evidence is every bit as hair-brained.

Good for them. Presumably they also imagine that when LB makes a claim about me, it is for me to disprove it, not him to back it up. Speaking of whom, any idea where has he got to? Not like him to let something drop (unless, of course, he now realises he has got it completely wrong, and his "plum" is actually a "lemon")

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 10, 2009, 10:07:34 AM
Why did you quote me here, yet not even attempt to answer the question I asked? So, I'll ask it again. What is the difference in my understanding of OSS (you should try to understand the ethos and the reality of the GAA through involving yourself in debate on both sides of the board) and yours (make an effort to understand them ["the other community"] and communicate with them)? Both would appear to be suggesting an attempt to understand, yet you suggest mine is different from yours.

I'm a bit lost here. I thought you were enquiring why (in the spirit of OSS?) I don't post on the other side of this Board (i.e. the GAA Section). I thought I explained why. I also thought I explained that OSS is only one reason why I post on this Board. I have alluded to some of the other reasons elsewhere. Frankly, I don't give a sh1t (stirred or otherwise  ::)) whether you or anyone else accepts those reasons. I don't have to answer to you (or anyone else) for my being a Member, any more than you (they) have to do to me.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 10, 2009, 10:07:34 AM

QuoteI don't understand. I thought you were not a Member of OWC, yet you refer to having "lurked" there in the past. Was this before they closed certain/most of the sections to non-patrons? Or are you a Member, but don't actually post (for fear of drawing unwelcome attention to yourself from the Mods etc)? And the Mod to whom you referred as "singling you out", did he do so on this site, or on OWC itself?

I am not a member of owc, never have been and most likely never will be. My lurking was indeed before most sections were closed off. The Mod in question knew that I was lurking and the posts to which I refer were made on owc. Still, he didn't visit me at work. Hope that clears that up a bit for you.

QuoteFrankly, there seems to me to be a lot of suspicion on this site from people who (no doubt sincerely) fear that their joining OWC will somehow leave them open to abuse or special treatment.

That is indeed correct, although the first example of personal and work details being published had nothing to do with site. A Derry City fan annoyed wee Marty (the mod, not McGuinness) sufficiently for his work email to be displayed for everyone to see. If this thread is no longer on owc, I will happily give you the email address so you can contact him yourself to verify my story.

I'm afraid I'm lost here, too. Several (many?) Members of this Board are also registered on OWC. Further, there are (presumably) many other non-GAABoard members from a similar background (GAA fans/Southerners/Nationalists etc) who also post on OWC. Yet you fear that you have been "singled out" by an OWC Mod, therefore are not keen to join. Is this correct?
Because if it is, I fail to see how a Mod knowing your IP address and User Name is any more significant to him or you than any other Mod on any other Board (inc this one) knowing such details. Are you e-mailing from inside Prison or something?  ;)
As for the Derry City fan, I must say I don't know anything about it (before my time?), but while I have no reason to doubt your account of what the DCFC fan told you, I suspect there may be more to it than that. For in my experience of such disputes, there are invariably two sides to the story.
Anyhow, I have in the past helped posters from here with queries/difficulties re. OWC Membership, and would be happy enough to do the same for you - PM me if you like.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 10, 2009, 10:07:34 AM
The Mac / TF thing didn't bother me in the slightest, in fact he would also be welcome at my place of work (Mac that is, not Fearon, although he would be asked to clarify his GAA / Madrid bombing line). It should also be pointed out that imo this was Mac's second attempt to ambush TF. The portly one was trying to arrange a pre-match pint with GSpain before a ROI match and who should be GS's guest on the same night only Mac. Possibly coincidental, but TF didn't weigh in that night - something about having to buy tickets.

From the ROI match incident, it sounds to me like any gripe you/TF might have should be with GSpain (for faciltating what you describe rather dramatically as an "ambush")
Anyhow, even if you are correct in your suspicions (and you've not produced any proof, btw), I fail to see what it has to do with OWC, or why it should cause alarm for TF (unless it was the prospect of having to buy an extra drink?)

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 10, 2009, 10:07:34 AM

QuoteAnother occasion was when TF made some incredibly insensitive and offensive personal comments about an NI fan who was the victim of a vicious and unprovoked attack in Bratislava. This was brought to the attention of (I think) the victim's father, who deduced that it must have been posted by TF whilst he was in work. Consequently, it seems the outraged father's reference to TF's workplace was posted on OWC for a short period, before a Mod saw it and deleted it.

The line posted by TF, whilst in bad taste and not particularly funny, was neither incredibly insensitive nor offensive, whereas the posting of his workplace details was an extremely over the top reaction.  

QuoteAnyhow, I have seen more than one prominent poster on this Board cite (misrepresent, actually) one or both of those two incidents as "proof" of how "dangerous" it is for GAABoarders to post on OWC.

Some NI fans were the victims of an entirely unprovoked attack by a gang of heavily armed thugs (so-called "Security") in a bar in Bratislava, where inter alia one sustained a broken jaw and another lost a testicle. TF seemed to think this funny, despite something similar having happened to ROI fans at the same bar a year or two previously. Worse, he couldn't forbear to hide his glee, but posted his "humour" on this site. When this was noted on OWC, the father of one of the victims, understandably enraged imo, wondered whether TF's employer (name inserted) knew what TF was doing in company time. When a Mod spotted this post at what was a particularly busy period (i.e. post-international), the post was deleted.
That is precisely the sort of thing which could happen on any Board, including this, to any well-known individual with a mania for self-publicity, who consistently posts offensive remarks under his real name, during office hours. Reasonably careful individuals, however, need have no such worries.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 10, 2009, 10:07:34 AM

QuoteAs for those few individuals on OWC who do, indeed, hate GAA, I can assure you that they have their counterparts on here, who hate "soccer" with equal vehemence.

Can you name some of these soccer haters for me?

Sorry, for "hate soccer" I should have said "hate the NI soccer team"

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 10, 2009, 10:07:34 AM

QuoteP.S. If your reference to using the same User Name on both sites is a dig at me, iirc I tried without success to register mine on here before adopting "Evil Genius"; it was the period when the Board seemed to be moving all the time, and I got fed up with a succession of failed attempts at Registration. Nothing sinister and no big deal, really.

Yes, that clears that up for me. Here was me thinking that unlike Mac, SammyG, big Roger etc, the likes of yourself, nifan, evil Myles et al. didn't have the courage of your convictions.

I have nothing to hide. Iirc, I attempted to register on this Board as "Ealing Green", kept getting told it was already registered (something to do with the Board moving?), yet when I tried to log on under that name, I was told my Password was incorrect  ???. I daresay I might have been overlooking something simple enough, but in the end, I got fed up and simply chose another name. I hope this explanation doesn't detract from your apparent sense of moral superiority...

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 10, 2009, 10:07:34 AM

QuoteThe little collection of jibes by me which you painstakingly compiled seems to have got to you, doesn't it?

You appear not to understand the meaning of the word painstaking. Climbing the last 100 yards up Mount Everest would be painstaking; building a life-sized model of the Titanic from matchsticks would be painstaking; copying the entire works of Shakespeare on to a grain of rice would be painstaking; using the View Last Posts of This Member facility of the gaaboard certainly isn't painstaking. Nor is quoting them in another post.

QuoteWas it my reference to your "garbled syntax", perhaps?

No, initially it was your response to Lynchbhoy's post and Gab's reply to it. Then I noticed the pattern. Regardless of whether or not you highlighted my garbled syntax, I would still have made the post.

QuoteAnyhow, I entirely fail to see how it was anything more than the normal "rough and tumble" which goes with robust debate on this site - and certainly a lot less personal and abusive than some of the shit I get called here, for that matter.

Whilst the nature of your posts wasn't particularly offensive, taken together (six posts on one thread aimed at six individual posters) they are certainly more than the normal "rough and tumble". I believe you call it "playing the man".

If you say so. For "painstaking" you may substitute "carefully" or "accurately".
As for the six remarks themselves, personally I really don't care if you take exception to them, since no-one else (inc, one of the "targets", The Watcher Pat) seems to be bothered. Why not take it up with the Mods, eh?
P.S. Re. your "garbled syntax", that was not some gratuitous jibe by me, merely a simple statement of fact.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 10, 2009, 10:07:34 AM
As sure as night follows day, when I introduce the term whataboutery you will claim that I misunderstand the meaning. Interestingly the meaning has changed here.

Of course I will claim it. That is because you obviously do not understand the term. "Whataboutery" is referring to someone elses "offences" in an attempt to excuse or deny ones own. It is not the same as, therefore does not preclude, referring to someone elses offences in order to make a different point - in this case, your double standards.

QuoteHere was me thinking that unlike Mac, SammyG, big Roger etc, the likes of yourself, nifan, evil Myles et al. didn't have the courage of your convictions.

Many (most) people here now my real first name at least (it isnt hard to find out  ;)).
Lynchbhoy even used it (or something close to it) on one occasion when i said he didnt know mych about me, presumably to try and make me think he did.

Quote from: his holiness nb on February 10, 2009, 01:50:14 PM
Saffron, whatever about the misunderstanding about posters being "banned" from OWC when they werent, I can only speak for myself from my own personal experience on there.

If your subsequent account is anything to go by, only you could "speak" in such a manner, since it is very much at variance with my own recollection.

If/when I get the time and the inclination, I will look again at your brief foray* onto OWC, for I am confident the record will show which of us is correct.



* - What is the phrase Danny Baker uses for such episodes? "Up like a Rocket, down like the Stick"  :D

Quote from: Evil Genius on February 10, 2009, 02:21:52 PM

Quote from: his holiness nb on February 10, 2009, 01:50:14 PM
Saffron, whatever about the misunderstanding about posters being "banned" from OWC when they werent, I can only speak for myself from my own personal experience on there.

If your subsequent account is anything to go by, only you could "speak" in such a manner, since it is very much at variance with my own recollection.

If/when I get the time and the inclination, I will look again at your brief foray* onto OWC, for I am confident the record will show which of us is correct.



* - What is the phrase Danny Baker uses for such episodes? "Up like a Rocket, down like the Stick"  :D

My previous post is 100% correct. But I knew I could depend on you to remember MY experience more accurately that I could myself  ::)

At least have the balls to call me a liar.

Quote from: his holiness nb on February 10, 2009, 04:50:30 PM
My previous post is 100% correct.

We'll see.

Quote from: his holiness nb on February 10, 2009, 04:50:30 PM
But I knew I could depend on you to remember MY experience more accurately that I could myself  ::)

Seeing as I posted in the two threads where you were mostly active, I have my own recall, too.

Quote from: his holiness nb on February 10, 2009, 04:50:30 PM
At least have the balls to call me a liar.

As I said, my recollection is at odds with yours. But seeing as it was a year ago, I'll hold off making intemperate accusations until I've had a chance to check.

Knock yourself out, although the lengths you will go to try to prove me wrong are bordering on freakishly obsessive  :o

My post was 100% correct. You know this.

But dont let that stop you fabricating a case against me as part of your little personal crusade.

I'll expect the usual lies and bluster, and no doubt you will make a good case against me.

I know the truth however, as do you.