Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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dec

The Evangelical Christians in the US love Israel. The restoration of Israel is part of the end times prophesies. Of course the way they love the Jews is
"The state of Israel existing means Jesus is coming back. All you Jews are going to hell unless you become Christians. "


PadraicHenryPearse

Israelis commenting on a Liverpool Fc post, are ending their support as the statement speaks of the loss of innocent life in Israel and Gaza.

Rudi

The Israeli ambassador to Ireland getting some grilling on prime time.

burdizzo

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 12, 2023, 09:34:02 PMHow have the Israelians got so much push in America anyway, a Jewish background be lucky to make up 2% of the population, where a Irish descent bound to be at 25%.There seems to be a disproportionate of Jewish descent in govts, Hollywood, etc how?.I didn't see the US give Ireland much heavy backing when we were getting the shit kicked out of us for years with a massive Irish voting background.Bit like Ukraine, they not really diving in head first, seem to get the impression they only got full tilt when the odds are 90% in their favour, as in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. But stand back if its the UK, China, Russia. It's abit like Russia and been the playground bully on a world stage. How Israel ever get in Eurovision for instance? Nearly as bad as letting Australia in.

Money? Might be 2% of the population, but what % of the wealth?

seafoid

Quote from: burdizzo on October 12, 2023, 10:14:15 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 12, 2023, 09:34:02 PMHow have the Israelians got so much push in America anyway, a Jewish background be lucky to make up 2% of the population, where a Irish descent bound to be at 25%.There seems to be a disproportionate of Jewish descent in govts, Hollywood, etc how?.I didn't see the US give Ireland much heavy backing when we were getting the shit kicked out of us for years with a massive Irish voting background.Bit like Ukraine, they not really diving in head first, seem to get the impression they only got full tilt when the odds are 90% in their favour, as in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. But stand back if its the UK, China, Russia. It's abit like Russia and been the playground bully on a world stage. How Israel ever get in Eurovision for instance? Nearly as bad as letting Australia in.

Money? Might be 2% of the population, but what % of the wealth?
Jews are a prominent minority with a strong network. In Syria another minority, the Alawis, are similar. They are both apart from the majority white/Sunni population.
Irish americans are part of the general white population.
Jews tend to get scapegoated when things go very wrong.

Itchy

Quote from: Rudi on October 12, 2023, 10:11:18 PMThe Israeli ambassador to Ireland getting some grilling on prime time.

Got her arse handed to her and was clearly rattled. That's because you can defend the indefensible you horrible hoor.

markl121

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 12, 2023, 10:01:22 PMIsraelis commenting on a Liverpool Fc post, are ending their support as the statement speaks of the loss of innocent life in Israel and Gaza.
LOL. Sad dat. Everton posted about bill kenwright being sick and it got took over too so had to turn comments off

Armagh18

Quote from: Rudi on October 12, 2023, 10:11:18 PMThe Israeli ambassador to Ireland getting some grilling on prime time.
Shoulda been kicked out years ago

Eamonnca1

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 12, 2023, 09:34:02 PMHow have the Israelians got so much push in America anyway, a Jewish background be lucky to make up 2% of the population, where a Irish descent bound to be at 25%.There seems to be a disproportionate of Jewish descent in govts, Hollywood, etc how?.

Jews are overrepresented in certain sectors where knowledge plays a big role. There was a time when Jews weren't allowed to inherit physical property, so they adapted and learned how to pass down knowledge of how to acquire wealth, because nobody could stop them from doing that. This is where the Jewish mercantile tradition came from. It made them very successful and helped them to weather economic storms throughout the ages, but it led to them being scapegoated when they appeared to be doing well while others were struggling.

In the US political system, money buys influence. Hence the strong pro-Israeli lobby. I've often wondered why the Palestinians haven't been able to match it with a lobby of their own, but that'd require backing from a friendly Arab state, of which there aren't many.

QuoteI didn't see the US give Ireland much heavy backing when we were getting the shit kicked out of us for years with a massive Irish voting background.Bit like Ukraine, they not really diving in head first, seem to get the impression they only got full tilt when the odds are 90% in their favour, as in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. But stand back if its the UK, China, Russia. It's abit like Russia and been the playground bully on a world stage.

The Irish influence in DC is huge. For all the talk of a "special relationship" with the UK, it's the Irish that really have the influence in Washington. Thatcher may have been cosy with Reagan, but it was the yanks that got her to grudgingly sign the Anglo Irish Agreement. There's no way she'd have  voluntarily given a say in NI's affairs to Garret Fitzgerald. To this day the UK will not be able to cut a bilateral trade deal with the US if the Good Friday Accords are compromised, and this has bipartisan and bicameral support in the House and Senate. Nancy Pelosi has been clear on this.

QuoteHow Israel ever get in Eurovision for instance? Nearly as bad as letting Australia in.
They're part of the European Broadcasting Union.

burdizzo

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 12, 2023, 10:58:02 PMJews are overrepresented in certain sectors where knowledge plays a big role.

Interestingly, the Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQ score of all ethnic groups.

armaghniac

Ukraine reported 540 child casualties in 18 months of war.

447 Palestinian children in just one day
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Itchy

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 12, 2023, 10:58:02 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 12, 2023, 09:34:02 PMHow have the Israelians got so much push in America anyway, a Jewish background be lucky to make up 2% of the population, where a Irish descent bound to be at 25%.There seems to be a disproportionate of Jewish descent in govts, Hollywood, etc how?.

Jews are overrepresented in certain sectors where knowledge plays a big role. There was a time when Jews weren't allowed to inherit physical property, so they adapted and learned how to pass down knowledge of how to acquire wealth, because nobody could stop them from doing that. This is where the Jewish mercantile tradition came from. It made them very successful and helped them to weather economic storms throughout the ages, but it led to them being scapegoated when they appeared to be doing well while others were struggling.

In the US political system, money buys influence. Hence the strong pro-Israeli lobby. I've often wondered why the Palestinians haven't been able to match it with a lobby of their own, but that'd require backing from a friendly Arab state, of which there aren't many.

QuoteI didn't see the US give Ireland much heavy backing when we were getting the shit kicked out of us for years with a massive Irish voting background.Bit like Ukraine, they not really diving in head first, seem to get the impression they only got full tilt when the odds are 90% in their favour, as in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. But stand back if its the UK, China, Russia. It's abit like Russia and been the playground bully on a world stage.

The Irish influence in DC is huge. For all the talk of a "special relationship" with the UK, it's the Irish that really have the influence in Washington. Thatcher may have been cosy with Reagan, but it was the yanks that got her to grudgingly sign the Anglo Irish Agreement. There's no way she'd have  voluntarily given a say in NI's affairs to Garret Fitzgerald. To this day the UK will not be able to cut a bilateral trade deal with the US if the Good Friday Accords are compromised, and this has bipartisan and bicameral support in the House and Senate. Nancy Pelosi has been clear on this.

QuoteHow Israel ever get in Eurovision for instance? Nearly as bad as letting Australia in.
They're part of the European Broadcasting Union.

For all the supposed Irish influence, the Yanks never lifted a finger in the middle of the troubles. But they've no issue selling every conceivable weapon possible to Israel. What that tells us is the the Yanks see a strong Israel as strategically important in the middle east, probably to allow them continue to buy oil without any agro from the region. Its all about money and power in yankland.

seafoid

A certain group of Jews is plugged into power systems. They make things happen.
Eg Wexner was a friend of Epstein...
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/inside-jeffrey-epsteins-decades-long-relationship-with-his-biggest-client
By 1976, The Limited operated 100 stores. Two years later, Wexner risked bankrupting the company when he borrowed $30 million to acquire the logistics company Mast Industries, which operated a dozen factories in Asia and contracted with hundreds of others around the world. The gamble proved to be Wexner's genius move, akin to McDonald's revolutionizing fast food. By controlling production and shipping, Wexner globalized the apparel business.Meister recalled a party in Aspen when Donald Trump walked up to Wexner and said, "Nice to meet you, now how did you get so f**king rich?"By 1986, Wexner ranked sixth on the Forbes 400 list of richest Americans, with a net worth estimated at $1.4 billion



Rudi

https://www.thejournal.ie/israel-palestine-gaza-evacuation-order-un-6195203-Oct2023

Fair play to Leo & most Irish politicians & commentators, not following the UK, EU, USA pro Israeli/ anti Palestine narrative.