Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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Eamonnca1

The IDF has been asked numerous times to confirm the "40 babies beheaded" story and has been unable to do so. No independent sources have been able to corroborate it.

PadraicHenryPearse

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Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 11, 2023, 10:33:36 PMThe IDF has been asked numerous times to confirm the "40 babies beheaded" story and has been unable to do so. No independent sources have been able to corroborate it.

Joe Biden said he has seen video evidence of that nature.

bennydorano

BBC News - Why BBC doesn't call Hamas militants 'terrorists' - John Simpson
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67083432

Strange, doesn't chime with a lot of posts on here.

dec

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1582630271287021570

Ursula von der Leyen @vonderleyen

Russia's attacks against civilian infrastructure, especially electricity, are war crimes.
Cutting off men, women, children of water, electricity and heating with winter coming - these are acts of pure terror.
And we have to call it as such.

3:10 AM ยท Oct 19, 2022

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: bennydorano on October 11, 2023, 10:46:47 PMBBC News - Why BBC doesn't call Hamas militants 'terrorists' - John Simpson
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67083432

Strange, doesn't chime with a lot of posts on here.

Did you read the part of the article where they don't use that language but they have guests on that can use it, it just not their voice. There are worst media outlets for sure.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 11, 2023, 11:01:49 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 11, 2023, 10:46:47 PMBBC News - Why BBC doesn't call Hamas militants 'terrorists' - John Simpson
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67083432

Strange, doesn't chime with a lot of posts on here.

Did you read the part of the article where they don't use that language but they have guests on that can use it, it just not their voice. There are worst media outlets for sure.

You'd prefer censorship then?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2023, 11:08:12 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 11, 2023, 11:01:49 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 11, 2023, 10:46:47 PMBBC News - Why BBC doesn't call Hamas militants 'terrorists' - John Simpson
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67083432

Strange, doesn't chime with a lot of posts on here.

Did you read the part of the article where they don't use that language but they have guests on that can use it, it just not their voice. There are worst media outlets for sure.

You'd prefer censorship then?

did I say that?  randomly, saw this on twitter just now, illustrates it better

https://twitter.com/Jonathan_K_Cook/status/1712228693907493319?t=6Emk7Eii08DHvqsk2zzJ2Q&s=19

HiMucker

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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2023, 11:08:12 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 11, 2023, 11:01:49 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 11, 2023, 10:46:47 PMBBC News - Why BBC doesn't call Hamas militants 'terrorists' - John Simpson
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67083432

Strange, doesn't chime with a lot of posts on here.

Did you read the part of the article where they don't use that language but they have guests on that can use it, it just not their voice. There are worst media outlets for sure.

You'd prefer censorship then?
It's a valid point MR,and one that everyone should be aware of. There is no doubt about it that the way BBC presents their articles is to favour the state position. Anyone from here should be able to see that easily. There is always plenty of examples relating to the past here.
I read on BBC news yesterday "hundreds killed in Gaza in air strikes after 600 killed in Israel in murderous rampage by Hamas". Now in this instance they have said killed, but you can see the framing in that. Is hundreds killed in air strikes not a murderous rampage as well?

AustinPowers

Two Israeli flags removed from town halls in Yorkshire  in recent days.

Is this  happening throughout Britain or what? The election of Israel flags on government buildings I mean , not the taking down

HiMucker

Quote from: AustinPowers on October 11, 2023, 11:44:18 PMTwo Israeli flags removed from town halls in Yorkshire  in recent days.

Is this  happening throughout Britain or what? The election of Israel flags on government buildings I mean , not the taking down
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67084936
The UK government has written a letter encouraging governing bodies in sport to "appropriately" mark the attacks in Israel this week with shows of support for the victims.
This is turning in to a major gas lighting operation for the UK government.

Jell 0 Biafra

Should be good craic at Celtic this weekend so.


PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: HiMucker on October 11, 2023, 11:31:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2023, 11:08:12 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 11, 2023, 11:01:49 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 11, 2023, 10:46:47 PMBBC News - Why BBC doesn't call Hamas militants 'terrorists' - John Simpson
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67083432

Strange, doesn't chime with a lot of posts on here.

Did you read the part of the article where they don't use that language but they have guests on that can use it, it just not their voice. There are worst media outlets for sure.

You'd prefer censorship then?
It's a valid point MR,and one that everyone should be aware of. There is no doubt about it that the way BBC presents their articles is to favour the state position. Anyone from here should be able to see that easily. There is always plenty of examples relating to the past here.
I read on BBC news yesterday "hundreds killed in Gaza in air strikes after 600 killed in Israel in murderous rampage by Hamas". Now in this instance they have said killed, but you can see the framing in that. Is hundreds killed in air strikes not a murderous rampage as well?

I dont think they see it easily or even when done within their own posts. There is a blind spot when it comes to dehumanising Palestinians.

https://twitter.com/SeanMac_R/status/1712231585238438310?t=cpkG8oCcA190kl0L48qrYQ&s=19


Jell 0 Biafra

https://theintercept.com/2023/10/11/israel-hamas-disinformation/

 "We cannot confirm it officially, but you can assume it happened and believe the report,"

Reporters with i24NEWS, an Israeli TV network, were among the first to report the claim, which they attributed to soldiers who recovered the bodies of victims. The Turkish news agency Anadolu first reported on Tuesday that the IDF would not confirm the claim. The IDF later told other outlets that it would not confirm the reports because it is "disrespectful for the dead."

"Specifically about the beheaded babies report, we cannot confirm the amount and specific place and everything like that," the spokesperson added. "There have been so many horrible situations and we don't have time, and we're currently busy fighting and defending our country. We don't have the time to check every report."

New York Times reporter Sheera Frenkel wrote on BlueSky on Wednesday that reporters should approach such claims carefully, try to verify their origin and sourcing, and seek to corroborate them in other ways. "Save the IDF coming out with an official statement (and it hasn't, it's declined to confirm) or someone confirming they saw it with their own eyes," she added, "it's a rumor being widely shared."