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Don't expect Derry to win Ulster, no idea who will tho.

A fully fit Tyrone would have to be in with a shout, they have serious players, think it would be madness for Derry to go full throttle in Ulster if they want to lift Sam.

Is the gear grinder thread still about? Fcuk me! 

I remember in 2005 Tyrone singing you can shove your Ulster Final up your hole, all takes is a few knocks going full tilt in 2 hard matches against Donegal and Tyrone, Armagh would settle for an Ulster championship - Derry should be all out for Sam, another Ulster and no Sam would be failure for such a great team.

OK, so let's pretend you're the Derry manager, managing the group of players we have atm, how are you planning the provencial / AI series ahead...

"here lads we don't need to win a game between now and the AI final.
Lets party for the next 8 weeks."

It's the stuff round bloody sunday etc that gets me on her. The whys and wherefores of the whole thing aside it's just so antagonistic and disrespectful.

She is a product of her upbringing and background. Though they would try to say otherwise the DUP's demographic is a mirror image of SF's which includes ultra loyalist/republican opinion through to more main stream. Like many SF politicians Lockhart panders to that loyalist bloc   for votes.

Good man. Now can you name me a SF MP that is the reflection of Carla.
I wouldn't want to be giving them my vote.

Don't know why but I've a funny feeling Monaghan could catch Derry if they meet. Fair chance Monaghan don't make it that far and of course Tyrone will always have a say in things. Looking forward to it anyway!

Sure Donegal are going to catch them first.

Derry are showing it's possible for smaller counties to push Dublin. Meath and Kildare if they got the house in order should be at a similar level to Derry at the minute? Don't think thats a ridiculous statement is it?

Certainly is not. And in real Terms when you make allowance for the demographic of Derry's population and the Soccer influence in Derry City. Meath are much bigger than Derry.

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Now of all the legends sitting on the Bench. I would have thought Cluxton was the one most likely to improve Dublin's performance.
What do you think?

Agreed. While a penalty shoot-out is exciting it's no way to end a gaelic match. 45s perhaps.

Why is this any different? I thought the main objection to penalties was that it wasn't fair to lose a game that way?

Precisely.
I am no fan if penalties but why would 45s be better.

Are the Dubs any good this year?
Offaly Meath would be an entertaining semi.

Not great, they couldn't get past one of them ould nordie teams the other day.

Longford vs Dublin will be in Longford. Meath vs Dublin will be in Croker as far as I know.

I think we're too strong for Longford and we have a more settled team now than last year. Having a crack at the Dubs will be good for these young lads to prove themselves. After that they'll have a taste of what the levels needs to be for All Ireland success.

Do you think Meath have improved much since last year?

Enough to beat Longford anyway.

If we play smart against the Dubs and don't give the ball away needlessly we might stay with them for an hour but we need everyone back from injury and performing at our best. We rattled them in 2021 but haven't got back to that level since.

If we play to our typical league form we'll be steam rolled.

I have noticed that They seem to have become more defensive in their 2nd year under o'Rourke.
His experiment of  90s style football appears to have been abandoned.

Bit of an overreaction to Derry's 'win'... it was a draw fulltime and extra-time and Dublin won't be so pourous come championship. However I think that's Derry's full hand albeit impressive.

You think Dublin were not playing to win?

Not in the way they would a big championship game. Did you ever see their backline so loose? Could easily have conceeded six goals. I'd be very surprised if they are as pourous in June/July.

So you do think they weren't playing to win?

They wouldn't have celebrated like they just won the World Cup lol!. I don't think they were overly bothered.

Do you think someone celebrated like they won the world cup?
Who was that?

Bit of an overreaction to Derry's 'win'... it was a draw fulltime and extra-time and Dublin won't be so pourous come championship. However I think that's Derry's full hand albeit impressive.

You think Dublin were not playing to win?

Not in the way they would a big championship game. Did you ever see their backline so loose? Could easily have conceeded six goals. I'd be very surprised if they are as pourous in June/July.

So you do think they weren't playing to win?

Longford vs Dublin will be in Longford. Meath vs Dublin will be in Croker as far as I know.

I think we're too strong for Longford and we have a more settled team now than last year. Having a crack at the Dubs will be good for these young lads to prove themselves. After that they'll have a taste of what the levels needs to be for All Ireland success.

Do you think Meath have improved much since last year?

How Dublin escaped the mini-melee and the final melee after the goal in extra time with a single yellow card is bizarre.

No Derry players carded?

 Connor Glass.

[but what weak/poor players are being dropped to accommodate them?]

There is much talk about the better players Dublin have to bring back in.
Fitsimmons , Mc Carthy, Mc Caffrey.
Which is all well and good, but what weak/poor players are being dropped to accommodate them?
When Dublin beat a 2nd team from Tyrone we were told that Dublin had no weak links at all.

Wouldn't call them weak/poor players but If all of Stephen Cluxton, Michael Fitzsimons, Lee Gannon;Jack McCaffrey  James McCarthy,Paul Mannion, Cormac Costello are fit/in top shape then I would expect they'll replace Evan Comerford; Seán McMahon, Cian Murphy; Tom Lahiff; Ross McGarry, Killian McGinnis, and Niall Scully in the starting 15 from last Sunday.

And how much of an improvement is that.
Outside of Comerford I am not sure you are replacing worse with better


The great hype with Dublin last year and this, was that their great strength was in their depth.
They could bring on players of equal quality to what they were bringing off.
Derry's weakness was the diametric opposite of that. (With which I agree). But the performance of Derry's subs on Sunday would say that has already gone some way in being addressed.

Dublin wouldn't have won last years All Ireland without the return and influence to the team that Stephen Cluxton, Michael Fitzsimons,James McCarthy,Paul Mannion brought. What worked last last year may not be repeated this summer and once the old guard retire where will Dublin be? arguably their senior success was in no small part to their successful U21 teams from 2010 to 2017.  Last three Dublin U20 teams didn't win Leinster in comparison.

Since Harte has arrived Derry have added strength in depth to their panel.

Big games are won in and on small margins.
A player only has to lose a very small percentage of their edge and suddenly they are back with the pack.
Dublin were not yards ahead of Monaghan or Kerry last year.

In Sunday papers last week. The article in the IMOS ( cant remember who the writer was) gave Derry no hope whatsoever. The oracle himself Pat Spillane wrote an article for publishing in the Sunday World I think, on the day of the NFL div 1 final . He mentioned only that Dublin were playing in it, he didn't even have enough respect to name who their opposition was.
I am quite sure this dismissive disdain for Derry and all Ulster teams will continue. And i am also very sure Mickey Harte and other Ulster coaches will make hay with it.

Bit of an overreaction to Derry's 'win'... it was a draw fulltime and extra-time and Dublin won't be so pourous come championship. However I think that's Derry's full hand albeit impressive.

You think Dublin were not playing to win?

[but what weak/poor players are being dropped to accommodate them?]

There is much talk about the better players Dublin have to bring back in.
Fitsimmons , Mc Carthy, Mc Caffrey.
Which is all well and good, but what weak/poor players are being dropped to accommodate them?
When Dublin beat a 2nd team from Tyrone we were told that Dublin had no weak links at all.

Wouldn't call them weak/poor players but If all of Stephen Cluxton, Michael Fitzsimons, Lee Gannon;Jack McCaffrey  James McCarthy,Paul Mannion, Cormac Costello are fit/in top shape then I would expect they'll replace Evan Comerford; Seán McMahon, Cian Murphy; Tom Lahiff; Ross McGarry, Killian McGinnis, and Niall Scully in the starting 15 from last Sunday.

And how much of an improvement is that.
Outside of Comerford I am not sure you are replacing worse with better


The great hype with Dublin last year and this, was that their great strength was in their depth.
They could bring on players of equal quality to what they were bringing off.
Derry's weakness was the diametric opposite of that. (With which I agree). But the performance of Derry's subs on Sunday would say that has already gone some way in being addressed.