McKenna Cup 2024

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supersarsfields

Out of interest how many Tyrone players are being pulled away from the Uni teams in comparison to other counties?

stronghold

Quote from: supersarsfields on January 14, 2014, 10:43:47 PM
Out of interest how many Tyrone players are being pulled away from the Uni teams in comparison to other counties?
Tyrone have taken 10
Down 2
Monaghan 2
Fermanagh 1
Armagh and Antrim won't let their uni players play against them
So against Antrim UUJ where without 11 players

Itchy

GAA should make an enforce a rule that colleges have 1st call on players. Cavan don't involve students or u21s yet can still field a competitive team. Are we expected to believe Tyrone can't. I'm getting a bit sick of Mickey Harte and his whinging. Man up and grow a pair ulster council.

Whishtup

Quote from: ck on January 14, 2014, 08:56:13 PM
Mickey Harte runs the McKenna Cup from his chaise longe as he gets fed grapes by ulster council reps and is fanned with big feathers by tyrone county board officials.

I was thinking more blackberries and brackens.

orangeman

There's a lot of Tyrone boys at university. They must be very smart in Tyrone ?

DuffleKing


Na, the most of them are at the Poly

stronghold


BennyHarp

Quote from: stronghold on January 14, 2014, 10:52:48 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on January 14, 2014, 10:43:47 PM
Out of interest how many Tyrone players are being pulled away from the Uni teams in comparison to other counties?
Tyrone have taken 10
Down 2
Monaghan 2
Fermanagh 1
Armagh and Antrim won't let their uni players play against them
So against Antrim UUJ where without 11 players

Is this just for UUJ? If this is reflected across the other universities then its hardly surprising Tyrone take the stand they do - its ok for Down, Monaghan, Armagh etc when losing 1 or 2 players but if you are losing 10 players from one University and god knows how many when you combine all three, then add in the older players who are being phased back, it would be a pretty pointless competition for Tyrone to enter as any sort of meaningful preparation for the season ahead.
That was never a square ball!!

sheamy

Quote from: BennyHarp on January 15, 2014, 09:08:31 AM
Quote from: stronghold on January 14, 2014, 10:52:48 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on January 14, 2014, 10:43:47 PM
Out of interest how many Tyrone players are being pulled away from the Uni teams in comparison to other counties?
Tyrone have taken 10
Down 2
Monaghan 2
Fermanagh 1
Armagh and Antrim won't let their uni players play against them
So against Antrim UUJ where without 11 players

Is this just for UUJ? If this is reflected across the other universities then its hardly surprising Tyrone take the stand they do - its ok for Down, Monaghan, Armagh etc when losing 1 or 2 players but if you are losing 10 players from one University and god knows how many when you combine all three, then add in the older players who are being phased back, it would be a pretty pointless competition for Tyrone to enter as any sort of meaningful preparation for the season ahead.

No

BennyHarp

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Quote from: sheamy on January 15, 2014, 09:10:52 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 15, 2014, 09:08:31 AM
Quote from: stronghold on January 14, 2014, 10:52:48 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on January 14, 2014, 10:43:47 PM
Out of interest how many Tyrone players are being pulled away from the Uni teams in comparison to other counties?
Tyrone have taken 10
Down 2
Monaghan 2
Fermanagh 1
Armagh and Antrim won't let their uni players play against them
So against Antrim UUJ where without 11 players

Is this just for UUJ? If this is reflected across the other universities then its hardly surprising Tyrone take the stand they do - its ok for Down, Monaghan, Armagh etc when losing 1 or 2 players but if you are losing 10 players from one University and god knows how many when you combine all three, then add in the older players who are being phased back, it would be a pretty pointless competition for Tyrone to enter as any sort of meaningful preparation for the season ahead.

No

So what is that figure then? The post certainly suggests that this is the number of Tyrone players withdrawn from the UUJ panel. Do you have the actual numbers then Sheamy?
That was never a square ball!!

DennistheMenace

I'm heartened by Brian McIver's viewpoint on it, fair play to him.

ck

Quote from: DennistheMenace on January 15, 2014, 09:27:11 AM
I'm heartened by Brian McIver's viewpoint on it, fair play to him.

What did he say? I've always been impressed with McIvors logical comments post match

supersarsfields

No harm if the Uni's got the call on about 1/3 of the panel then I completely understand the reason why MH is not happy. It would make the McKenna cup a farce of a competition for Tyrone and would be of no benefit to how he prepares the county team for the league. He's not there to help the Universities to prepare their teams, he's there to manage Tyrone and I'd 100% agree with his stance.

EC Unique

Quote from: Itchy on January 14, 2014, 11:18:32 PM
GAA should make an enforce a rule that colleges have 1st call on players. Cavan don't involve students or u21s yet can still field a competitive team. Are we expected to believe Tyrone can't. I'm getting a bit sick of Mickey Harte and his whinging. Man up and grow a pair ulster council.

No you are not expected to believe that. If Tyrone let all their Uni players go they could still field but it would be with players who have no chance of game time in the league or Championship so it would be pointless. Mickey's job is to prepare Tyrone as best he can and this is what he is doing without breaking any rules. He is 100% in the right. Tyrone are playing in division 1 football and if you don't prepare as best as possible prepare to get beaten.

sheamy

Quote from: BennyHarp on January 15, 2014, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: sheamy on January 15, 2014, 09:10:52 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 15, 2014, 09:08:31 AM
Quote from: stronghold on January 14, 2014, 10:52:48 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on January 14, 2014, 10:43:47 PM
Out of interest how many Tyrone players are being pulled away from the Uni teams in comparison to other counties?
Tyrone have taken 10
Down 2
Monaghan 2
Fermanagh 1
Armagh and Antrim won't let their uni players play against them
So against Antrim UUJ where without 11 players

Is this just for UUJ? If this is reflected across the other universities then its hardly surprising Tyrone take the stand they do - its ok for Down, Monaghan, Armagh etc when losing 1 or 2 players but if you are losing 10 players from one University and god knows how many when you combine all three, then add in the older players who are being phased back, it would be a pretty pointless competition for Tyrone to enter as any sort of meaningful preparation for the season ahead.

No

So what is that figure then? The post certainly suggests that this is the number of Tyrone players withdrawn from the UUJ panel. Do you have the actual numbers then Sheamy?

Wouldn't know each and every player Benny but I recall reading that figure of 10 as a combined one in the paper a few weeks ago. A quick google gives some info but I wouldn't know more beyond this.

In his panel, Harte has named Mattie Donnelly, Ronan O'Neill, Barry Tierney and Conor McAliskey (all UUJ), Conor Clarke, Danny McBride and Niall Morgan (St. Mary's) and Niall McKenna (Queen's University) in his ranks. - See more at: http://donegalnews.com/2014/01/long-break-has-been-refreshing-for-jim-mcguinness-and-donegal/#sthash.9olBW9Bv.dpuf