(So called) Republicans attack Sinn Fein MLA

[ziggysego]

Borat!!

[brokencrossbar1]

Chris Smiley!!

More like Smiley Bulger!

[An Fear Rua]

the people setting up the bonfire are republicans.
certainly more republican than daithi mc kay,padraig mc shane or anyone else in spin fein who are enforcing british occupation in ireland.

You going to have to define the republican rules and scoring system, clearly and distinctly if you going to start scoring people on their republicaness.
Im surprised that being a republican includes openly assaulting someone , pissing off your neighbours and being a bit thick?




I'd say we will be waiting a while before we hear the ballad of Ciaran Mc Gill.

an irish republican is a person who wishes to see a 32 county ireland free from foreign interference.
this cannot include anyone who activly supports and aids the current british presence in ireland.
it suited spin fein and the provos to assault and kill paul quinn and i can remember many times when spin fein would intimidate people to do as they say.

I think you need to clarify your thoughts on this, on one hand you say these lads are more republican than sinn fein "certainly more republican than daithi mc kay,padraig mc shane or anyone else in spin fein who are enforcing british occupation in ireland", and the next you say sinn fein are not republican at all "this cannot include anyone who activly supports and aids the current british presence in ireland."

It seems to me these lads are fighting the battle that was required 20 years ago, things have changed since then, even prior to the farce on the hill, methinks these lads need to reasses their tactics?

I wholly agree that internment should never be forgotten, and should be recognised, however acting like a spidey loyalist, getting pissed and burning pallets isnt the best way to do it, and shitting on your own doorstep isnt either. Your not going to either change sinn fein or beat them with the approach seen yesterday. Its moved on from rocks to the trojan horse...

[ziggysego]

Why not do what Gerry Adams did in the 80s and set up a Féile an Phobail type festival. Surely that's more respectable and more culturally acceptable way of remembering internment (not celebrating internment).

[Zapatista]

Interning them lads would serve them to remember it.

[Yes I Would]

Your spot on Ziggy, but these scummy bastards have no concept of culture, respect or understanding of what internment was about.
Its an excuse for drink, drugs and mayhem and to show the outside how tough and patriotic their estate is.
Its the decent people of Dunclug i feel sorry for!!

[lynchbhoy]

Donagh, these lads would respect no-one

as a guy said to me at a wedding the other week in Enniskillen - the people around the place almost wish the 'boys' were still around to deal with these younger crew and their drugs and anti-social 'crimes' (his words not mine - and he is not a republican, but a quiet SDLP voter and I got a bit of a shock when he said this to me).

these young lads are asbo-types but sinn feins biggest crime here is their lack of effort in getting the psni to become th epolice force they were meant to be. I am still hearing collaborating stroies from Derry/Derry city, tyrone and Fermanagh about how the cops wont stop this anti social behaviour in nationalist areas and estates.

A lot of people are now mistakenly starting to think that the dissidents will do the job for them that the ira used to do in arresting these anti social activities and drugs.

There are the same kinds of gangs in dublin and limerick to name just two, but at least the cops down here will make some kind of effort to halt such behaviour. scumbags are scumbags wherever they are.

Bonfires should possibly only be allowed for halloween 'celebrations'  - but imo they should be stopped for pollution reasons.


smcafee - what are you talking about ? I think we get it that you dont like sinn fein. So what ?
do you actually have a point?
I am starting to ask the same question of ziggy too...

[the colonel]

Is this what passes for a republican in Glens these days:

http://skin.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=5379879459

Casement must be spinning in his grave.

Flippin eck! Now imagine if he'd been brought up playing gaelic footall for his parish. Would he still end up the same?

smiley used to play gaelic football for all saints ballymena and st pats ballymena. animal of a player. one of those fellas who is the same siize now as he was when he was 14.

agree with points about the glens. ballymena has nothing to do with the glens or do we want them refered to as glensmen.

and smiley does very very little socialising in the glens

[Yes I Would]

Is this what passes for a republican in Glens these days:

http://skin.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=5379879459

Casement must be spinning in his grave.

Flippin eck! Now imagine if he'd been brought up playing gaelic footall for his parish. Would he still end up the same?

smiley used to play gaelic football for all saints ballymena and st pats ballymena. animal of a player. one of those fellas who is the same siize now as he was when he was 14.

agree with points about the glens. ballymena has nothing to do with the glens or do we want them refered to as glensmen.

and smiley does very very little socialising in the glens

Thats what im saying. should be top man in any new 32 county republic!!

[ziggysego]

Lynch, what you talking about? What have said against Sinn Fein?

[orangeman]

Leaving aside the issue of whether there should be a bonfire in Dunclug or not,,is Sinn Fein now trying to clean up the image of Republican areas by taking away the flags and now the bonfires ? Is this meant to impress the Unionist people or what ? Unionists / Loyalists have their flags and bonfires and we don't really think about them - why are Sinn Fein embarking on this policy now ?

[Zapatista]

Leaving aside the issue of whether there should be a bonfire in Dunclug or not,,is Sinn Fein now trying to clean up the image of Republican areas by taking away the flags and now the bonfires ? Is this meant to impress the Unionist people or what ? Unionists / Loyalists have their flags and bonfires and we don't really think about them - why are Sinn Fein embarking on this policy now ?

If this is the case - which I doubt - I hope it's part of the 'reach out to Unionist' campaign. The previous 'divide unionism' campaign is what led to this shit in loyalist areas. It is seen now in Republican areas such as Dunclug.

[pebble-dasher]

I think a lot of the young people in dunclug are annoyed with the removal of the bonfire by Sinn Fein has a lot to do with the brutal murder of Michael Mc Ilveen.  After his murder a majority of these young lads have turned 'republican.'  However a bonfire to mark the end of internment is not the answer.  The so called young republican Chris Smiley was jailed as part of the fisherwick 4 and thinks he was interned!  These lads think they are going to free Ireland but they are only getting laughed at via the media.

[slow corner back]

The main speaker Christopher Smiley had a relation in the old UDR. How ironic. Ignorance is dangerous. The hard man that was throwing a few boxes is called Ciaran Mc Gill. 

Hes not related to sammy smiley of the bullet in the foot fame is he?

[Square Ball]

I think a lot of the young people in dunclug are annoyed with the removal of the bonfire by Sinn Fein has a lot to do with the brutal murder of Michael Mc Ilveen.  After his murder a majority of these young lads have turned 'republican.'  However a bonfire to mark the end of internment is not the answer.  The so called young republican Chris Smiley was jailed as part of the fisherwick 4 and thinks he was interned!  These lads think they are going to free Ireland but they are only getting laughed at via the media.

excuse my ignorance on this, but who were the Fisherwick 4

found it on the BBC