Collins or De Valera

Started by ONeill, July 19, 2008, 01:08:38 AM

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Treaty?

Collins then, Collins now
29 (42.6%)
Collins then, Dev now
2 (2.9%)
Dev then, Dev now
18 (26.5%)
Dev then, Collins now
11 (16.2%)
Lloyd George
1 (1.5%)
Frank Carson
4 (5.9%)
Patrick Kielty
3 (4.4%)

Total Members Voted: 67

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ONeill

July 19, 2008, 01:08:38 AM Last Edit: July 19, 2008, 08:25:53 AM by ONeill
How would you have leaned then/was right in hindsight? I'd be in the 4 camp, simply because of where I live. The northern partition meant that for northerners it would be almost impossible to look beyond that. However, it looks like Dev's reasons for rejecting the treaty were dubious as his main gripe was the oath, something which he later took and then got rid off, just like Collins said would happen. Did Collins have no other option? Did he take a decision he shouldn't have, without Dev's nod?

Is Dev revered in certain parts still?
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Niall Quinn

#1
July 19, 2008, 01:32:21 AM
I don't really know an awful lot about them but Eamon De Valera is a great name.
Back to the howling old owl in the woods, hunting the horny back toad

ziggysego

#2
July 19, 2008, 01:34:43 AM
He played Metatron in a film.
Testing Accessibility

Niall Quinn

#3
July 19, 2008, 01:42:23 AM
Doggier Dad Volley and
Evade more Anal.
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Niall Quinn

#4
July 19, 2008, 01:46:23 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 19, 2008, 01:36:46 AM
Watch out for hallions like screenexile pissing on the street.

Is Screenexile the one who played football in Toronto a while back?
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Yes I Would

#5
July 19, 2008, 01:46:52 AM
Sold us down the river the lot of them!!

Yes I Would

#6
July 19, 2008, 01:52:46 AM
Sing along now
"When apples still grow in November,
and blossoms they bloom from each tree,
when leaves are still green in December
Its then that our land will be free"

Yes I Would

#7
July 19, 2008, 02:03:52 AM
a milder version hardtstation

Im off to the land of nod with visions of green leaves in December and wondering whatever became of that Czech bird!!

Oiche mhaith

Niall Quinn

#8
July 19, 2008, 02:08:49 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on July 19, 2008, 01:34:43 AM
He played Metatron in a film.

Who did?
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Niall Quinn

#9
July 19, 2008, 02:13:50 AM
What exactly prompted the poll, or is that O'Neill fella just fond of a drop on a Friday?
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Niall Quinn

#10
July 19, 2008, 02:23:47 AM
The Bomber will give you nightmares at this time of day.
Neither Kerry nor the beard should be trusted.
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Hardy

#11
July 19, 2008, 10:57:50 AM
My son went for the Bomber with a pool cue in the Liston family pub in Ballybunion one time. The Bomber backed down and, to give him his due, was a big enough man not to hold it against him. The son was three at the time and I'd say the Bomber could have taken him easily.

Dev was a rugby man. End of argument.

Evil Genius

#12
July 19, 2008, 11:14:36 AM
Where's the "Carson" option? Not much Parity of Esteem there, eh?  ;)
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

ONeill

#13
July 19, 2008, 11:18:33 AM
Carson was a non starter. NI was and is England's puppet.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Hardy

#14
July 19, 2008, 11:21:53 AM Last Edit: July 19, 2008, 11:23:53 AM by Hardy
Even Dev was funnier than Frank.
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