Paddy Kilety in "A Night in November" in Newry this weekend!

[his holiness nb]

Well I was commenting on his nephews experience, not the claims that Windsor is not a welcoming place for Catholics.
I have never been so cant comment on that, although my relatives in Belfast would certainly be of that opinion.

[Chrisowc]

It's quite possible that 1 or 2 knuckledraggers attempted to get a chant going.  If this is true then it would have been drowned out almost immediately.  It has been good few years since I heard any of these chants having to be drowned out.

What is sad here is that this isolated incident has stopped a young lad returning to support Northern Ireland.

What is pathetic here is that this isolated incident has been turned round by a grown man to fuel his own prejudices (and hatred?) of what he perceives to be the norm.

[MW]

Well I was commenting on his nephews experience, not the claims that Windsor is not a welcoming place for Catholics.
I have never been so cant comment on that, although my relatives in Belfast would certainly be of that opinion.

His claim was based on the "experience" (ho hum) or "his nephew", and consequently his claim that "they" sing the Billy Boys.


This would be like me taking this...

I've heard racist chants in Croke park before, by the odd idiot

...and saying:

"Well it is no secret that Croke Park is not a very welcoming place for ethnic minorities. With its racist chants...and general all round hatred of all things black/Asian."

"So they dont sing racist chants in Croke?
[ x] was at a game a few years back and they definitely chanted them then"

...which would be garbage.

[his holiness nb]

What is pathetic here is that this isolated incident has been turned round by a grown man to fuel his own prejudices (and hatred?) of what he perceives to be the norm.

So the experience of his nephew putting him off Windsor park makes him "pathetic" ?
You guys are truly the masters of spin  

[MW]

What is pathetic here is that this isolated incident has been turned round by a grown man to fuel his own prejudices (and hatred?) of what he perceives to be the norm.

So the experience of his nephew putting him off Windsor park makes him "pathetic" ?
You guys are truly the masters of spin  

See my post above.

[SammyG]

Well I was commenting on his nephews experience, not the claims that Windsor is not a welcoming place for Catholics.
I have never been so cant comment on that, although my relatives in Belfast would certainly be of that opinion.

His nephews experience was that 'they' (the crowd at WP) were singing the Billy Boys, this is clearly a lie. You've then changed this to be a remote possibility that some cnut shouted something, which is unlikely but obviously not impossible. As far as your other comment I'll be sure to let my Catholic mates and the Camogie team and all the Cliftonville fans etc etc etc, know that you say they're not welcome.  

[Chrisowc]

What is pathetic here is that this isolated incident has been turned round by a grown man to fuel his own prejudices (and hatred?) of what he perceives to be the norm.

So the experience of his nephew putting him off Windsor park makes him "pathetic" ?
You guys are truly the masters of spin  

What MW said.

[his holiness nb]

His claim was based on the "experience" (ho hum) or "his nephew", and consequently his claim that "they" sing the Billy Boys.


This would be like me taking this...

I've heard racist chants in Croke park before, by the odd idiot

...and saying:

"Well it is no secret that Croke Park is not a very welcoming place for ethnic minorities. With its racist chants...and general all round hatred of all things black/Asian."

"So they dont sing racist chants in Croke?

• was at a game a few years back and they definitely chanted them then"
  
  ...which would be garbage.
  

Interesting Spin again, I never said anything about racist chants, thats more a soccer thing  
And proves my point that these things happen everywhere occasionally and the perpetrators are idiots.
If you said you experienced it I would say that IF its true I fully condemn it.
Not I wouldnt blindy deny it never happened as thats impossible to prove!!

Although lets be honest, Windsor does have a long history of this sort of carry on.
To compare it with Croke park is just silly.

[his holiness nb]

As far as your other comment I'll be sure to let my Catholic mates and the Camogie team and all the Cliftonville fans etc etc etc, know that you say they're not welcome.  

Its not up to me to welcome them or not, I have no intentions of ever going there, and therefore have no right to welcome them or not.
Its the people who do attend regularly who have to be the welcoming ones 
Thats your problem not mine 

[Chrisowc]

His claim was based on the "experience" (ho hum) or "his nephew", and consequently his claim that "they" sing the Billy Boys.


This would be like me taking this...

I've heard racist chants in Croke park before, by the odd idiot

...and saying:

"Well it is no secret that Croke Park is not a very welcoming place for ethnic minorities. With its racist chants...and general all round hatred of all things black/Asian."

"So they dont sing racist chants in Croke?

• was at a game a few years back and they definitely chanted them then"
  
  ...which would be garbage.
  

Interesting Spin again, I never said anything about racist chants, thats more a soccer thing 

Aye thats right.  Spin

[MW]

Interesting Spin again, I never said anything about racist chants, thats more a soccer thing  

Jesus. Fecking. Cleary. Are you completely divorced from reality, or can you really not remember what you've just said??

I've heard racist chants in Croke park before, by the odd idiot,

FFS the above was even contained in both our quotes!!

[SammyG]

Although lets be honest, Windsor does have a long history of this sort of carry on.
To compare it with Croke park is just silly.

Truely pathetic comment. WP has been in use for about 100 years, for about 10-15 of those years it had a problem with sectarianism, at a time when the troubles were at there worst and sectrianism was rampant everywhere. 10-15 years to much but hardly a 'long history' when taken against the 100+ years that the ground has been in use, especially considering that it was only ever a small minority, even at it's worst.

[his holiness nb]

Interesting Spin again, I never said anything about racist chants, thats more a soccer thing  

Jesus. Fecking. Cleary. Are you completely divorced from reality, or can you really not remember what you've just said??

Apologies, just re-read my post, it was actually racist "comments" not "chants" I heard.

Simple mistake, dont think it qualifies me for a "divorce from reality" 

[his holiness nb]

Truely pathetic comment. WP has been in use for about 100 years, for about 10-15 of those years it had a problem with sectarianism, at a time when the troubles were at there worst and sectrianism was rampant everywhere. 10-15 years to much but hardly a 'long history' when taken against the 100+ years that the ground has been in use, especially considering that it was only ever a small minority, even at it's worst.

Even if what you say is true, a 10-15 year period is a long period of time. To compare this to Croke Park where there has never been an issue with sectarianism is very silly.

[MW]

Interesting Spin again, I never said anything about racist chants, thats more a soccer thing  

Jesus. Fecking. Cleary. Are you completely divorced from reality, or can you really not remember what you've just said??

Apologies, just re-read my post, it was actually racist "comments" not "chants" I heard.


Simple mistake, dont think it qualifies me for a "divorce from reality" 

With that clarified, simply replace 'chants' with 'comments' in my example. My point is the same.