Joe Kernan Resigns

[naka]

john rafferty is not the man. whilst I agree with rhf about the role of senior players in this is wrong we should realise that these players have sweated blood for the cause for the past 10 years .They must be desperate te get another crack at SAM to undermine Joe in such a way.
We can sit here and pontificate about the rights and wrongs of Joe but he always did his best for Armagh as have the players 
My only worry is that although PG should get his chance will he be too friendly with the squad ( have seen him drinking with them on a few occasions), this could make hard decisions difficult in the heat of battle. leaders should not socialise with footsoldiers

[Declan]

Always had great time for him. Great service to Cross and Armagh over the years and by all accounts a good guy to boot. Still remember him bursting through the Dubs defence in 1977 and unleashing the left foot hammer. His achievements as manager cannot be denied. Hope he enjoys his break

[Spiritof98]

john rafferty is not the man. whilst I agree with rhf about the role of senior players in this is wrong we should realise that these players have sweated blood for the cause for the past 10 years .They must be desperate te get another crack at SAM to undermine Joe in such a way.
We can sit here and pontificate about the rights and wrongs of Joe but he always did his best for Armagh as have the players 
My only worry is that although PG should get his chance will he be too friendly with the squad ( have seen him drinking with them on a few occasions), this could make hard decisions difficult in the heat of battle. leaders should not socialise with footsoldiers

Having seen Grimley in action, he holds no pucnhes back no matter who you are, when it comes to the training field he calls a spade a spade. I would have 100% faith in his ability to play the right players.

Good luck to Joe, I've been disillusioned with some of your selections in the recent past but that not for now. You will always be the man that led us to the big one and no matter how many the Tyronies win you showed them the Road to Dublin!!!

[neutral]

we had been around Dublin for 20 years before Joe came on board.  He did show us how to win in Dublin however.

[magpie seanie]

Best of luck with the time off to Joe Kernan. He has truly been a fantastic manager and his achievements will stand the test of time. He is GAA through and through and will not be too far away for too long. Like others I'd guess he won't be into managing other counties. Armagh and Cross seem to be what drives him.

[Boozehell]

Boo Hoo.  My heart is broken.  When I heard the news of Joe's retirement I burst into tears, tears of joy.  Eveybody talks about how great Armagh were to win the All-Ireland in 2002.  The fact is it was nothing but total and pure luck which gave every Armagh supporter the wrong impression in thinking that Armagh were actually a good football team.  Whoever takes over the new post should first in foremost start by getting rid of that thug Martin O'Rourke.  There is no room on a football field for people like him.  It's not as if he is a good footballer.

[his holiness nb]

Before anyone rises to the bait of Boozehell I would recommend you read his previous posts.
He is clearly just here to try to start rows.
Seems very bitter.

[magickingdom]

sorry to see joe go but not surprised. really thought this could be a good year for armagh but it was not to be. a great gaa man and all the best for the future..

[Smokin Joe]

Well done Joe and thanks for bringing Cross and Armagh to a level that would not have been achieved otherwise.  I am probably the only poster here who has worked directly with Joe for a sustained period of time and believe me the man knows more about how to win games than anyone here.  All you buzzards as rrhf so rightly called you can fcuk away off now and leave the man and his family alone.  While there may not have been direct attacks on them Uladh with his "rumours" and "stories" always had a wee side story to every event and POG with his Blue and Gold Bridge glasses cannot see beyond Creggan Bridge. 

If you can show me any other football manager in recent times who has managed teams to 16 championship wins in just over 10 years then fair play to you. 

Take you time Joe and enjoy the sun, it's not like you don't deserve it.

BC, his championship medals aren't in question, but should he have been able to stay indefinitely when it appears that he knows no other way to play than Plan A?
Yes that was greatly successful in the past, but without Clarke it just doesn't work.  He didn't seem to recognise that fact this year, or if he did it appears that he closed his eys and hoped it would work, which I'm afraid just isn't good enough.  18 scores in 2 championship games tells its own story.  And as someone else has previously posted the scores we got in the league, the meagre return in the 2 championship games shouldn't have come as a surprise.

That is why I am glad that he is stepping down.

[orangeman]

Good luck to Joe - everything he does usually turns out successful - he brought belief and steel to Armagh that they didn't have before.

[Boozehell]

Before anyone rises to the bait of Boozehell I would recommend you read his previous posts.
He is clearly just here to try to start rows.
Seems very bitter.

I'm sorry but if a player physically attacks a member of the oppositions management panel I don't think he should be allowed to be near a football field.  If you condone that then you are worse than he is.

[magpie seanie]

I'm sorry but if a player physically attacks a member of the oppositions management panel I don't think he should be allowed to be near a football field

FFS - I'm no major admirer of Martin O'Rourke or Armagh for that matter (as several here will no doubt testify to!) but it was hardly an attack.

[brokencrossbar1]

Joe I also am glad that he is stepping down for both his sake and the teams development.  I just feel the way he has been castigated in many quarters is wrong.  

If the stories about Paul Grimley are correct, then I, as a player, would have my concerns as well.  Unless the whole squad of 30 odd are behind the alleged move to road Joe, which I doubt they are, then it would suggest factions within the squad.  That is a bigger threat to success than anything.  

Joe should be left enjoy his break and look after other parts of his life instead of devoting the majority of his time to help fulfill other peoples dreams!

[Scarface]

Yes 5 Times, Down have a proud history - it still does not disguise the fact that now and for the past number of years they have been totally shite. And no sign of improvement either. Cavan have a great c'ship history - not exactly world beaters these days are they though??? But you content yourself with your past glories if you must.

[his holiness nb]

Before anyone rises to the bait of Boozehell I would recommend you read his previous posts.
He is clearly just here to try to start rows.
Seems very bitter.

I'm sorry but if a player physically attacks a member of the oppositions management panel I don't think he should be allowed to be near a football field.  If you condone that then you are worse than he is.

See what I mean