Paedo Hunter Groups

Started by Look-Up!, October 05, 2026, 11:12:45 AM

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Bunt69

Quote from: David McKeown on October 06, 2026, 08:26:42 PMI would have come across these groups plenty in work (not in a personal capacity). Initially they made prosecutions more difficult by mishandling evidence. Then they got at it and built really strong cases.

Seem to have died off in recent years partially because Police have gotten better at it.
They are still at it but as you know the Pred needs to have evidence on his phone and admit guilt. The evidence they generally have is chat logs etc. The citizens arrest is used very loosely!

David McKeown

Quote from: Bunt69 on October 06, 2026, 08:31:02 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on October 06, 2026, 08:26:42 PMI would have come across these groups plenty in work (not in a personal capacity). Initially they made prosecutions more difficult by mishandling evidence. Then they got at it and built really strong cases.

Seem to have died off in recent years partially because Police have gotten better at it.
They are still at it but as you know the Pred needs to have evidence on his phone and admit guilt. The evidence they generally have is chat logs etc. The citizens arrest is used very loosely!

Yeah I know they are still about but 10-12 years ago I'd have quite a few cases where they had done all the evidence gather themselves. Initially very badly but that improved.

Now they seem to turn things over to or their operation gets over by the PSNI quite quickly.
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Look-Up!

At least the police are more clued onto it now, that's something good from it at least.

The catch a predator show in US was crazy stuff. Ones I saw on youtube, perps were practically lining themselves up one after the other outside the house to get in. Chris Hansen no angel in real life though apparently. But brilliant in South Park.

Bunt69

That COPE lot are not as professional as they like to make out and have had quite a few screw ups including fall outs with the guards. Also some assaults off camera. They are all benefit scroungers who seek adoration.

Look-Up!

Quote from: Bunt69 on October 06, 2026, 11:22:45 PMThat COPE lot are not as professional as they like to make out and have had quite a few screw ups including fall outs with the guards. Also some assaults off camera. They are all benefit scroungers who seek adoration.
How do they make money from online stuff. What sums are we talking?

Bunt69

Views on FB/Tik Tok etc and the guy who runs the group charges his members !

Milltown Row2

Grifters, beats working for a living
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

trueblue1234

They're perfect example of wrong method, right result. I find the groups and people hard to take and would question their motivation. But if they're producing the results and helps at least one extra child stay safe, then it's worth it.
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: trueblue1234 on October 07, 2026, 06:22:16 AMThey're perfect example of wrong method, right result. I find the groups and people hard to take and would question their motivation. But if they're producing the results and helps at least one extra child stay safe, then it's worth it.

If it's poor evidence gathering and the person gets off on some stupid reason, it doesn't really get the best result, yea they'll move out of where they are from, but on to somewhere else unfortunately..

Strange that they won't then go after drug dealers who Aldo plague their areas with dangerous deadly drugs, be easier to find them
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Armagh18

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2026, 07:19:41 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on October 07, 2026, 06:22:16 AMThey're perfect example of wrong method, right result. I find the groups and people hard to take and would question their motivation. But if they're producing the results and helps at least one extra child stay safe, then it's worth it.

If it's poor evidence gathering and the person gets off on some stupid reason, it doesn't really get the best result, yea they'll move out of where they are from, but on to somewhere else unfortunately..

Strange that they won't then go after drug dealers who Aldo plague their areas with dangerous deadly drugs, be easier to find them
Drug dealers would fight back...

Think these pedo stings are definitely a good thing if done correctly and lead to a conviction but as you say can end up done wrong and get a pedo off on a technicality or accuse someone innocent. Some of the ones you see doing it would strike me as the type that would need their own hard drive checking

Look-Up!

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 07, 2026, 07:48:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2026, 07:19:41 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on October 07, 2026, 06:22:16 AMThey're perfect example of wrong method, right result. I find the groups and people hard to take and would question their motivation. But if they're producing the results and helps at least one extra child stay safe, then it's worth it.

If it's poor evidence gathering and the person gets off on some stupid reason, it doesn't really get the best result, yea they'll move out of where they are from, but on to somewhere else unfortunately..

Strange that they won't then go after drug dealers who Aldo plague their areas with dangerous deadly drugs, be easier to find them
Drug dealers would fight back...

Think these pedo stings are definitely a good thing if done correctly and lead to a conviction but as you say can end up done wrong and get a pedo off on a technicality or accuse someone innocent. Some of the ones you see doing it would strike me as the type that would need their own hard drive checking
Confronting drug dealers would lead to violence and most definite police crack down. Dublin in the 80s, concerned parent groups against the influx of heroin faced massive Gardai crackdown. Martin Cahill created the concerned criminals action committee as a two fingers to both the parent groups and Gardai. But long and short of it the vigilante group leaders were jailed and desisted and the general (despite his "degree of separation" from the drug) got to flood the town with brown.

Look-Up!

Quote from: Bunt69 on October 06, 2026, 11:36:58 PMViews on FB/Tik Tok etc and the guy who runs the group charges his members !

Is there a badge in the welcome pack?

DaleCooper

"Drug dealers would fight back"

Lol

The Army rangers could be used and one of the small islands off coast refashioned as  "Gallows Island".

But Irish people are not serious people and would rather bitch and moan.

Armagh18

Quote from: DaleCooper on October 07, 2026, 06:09:08 PM"Drug dealers would fight back"

Lol

The Army rangers could be used and one of the small islands off coast refashioned as  "Gallows Island".

But Irish people are not serious people and would rather bitch and moan.
I'd be in all favour of that. But we're on about vigilantes trapping pedos in online stings..

Deerstalker

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 07, 2026, 06:10:29 PM
Quote from: DaleCooper on October 07, 2026, 06:09:08 PM"Drug dealers would fight back"

Lol

The Army rangers could be used and one of the small islands off coast refashioned as  "Gallows Island".

But Irish people are not serious people and would rather bitch and moan.
I'd be in all favour of that. But we're on about vigilantes trapping pedos in online stings..

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