Man Utd Thread:

[GiveItToTheShooters]

Sure United and their fans have no values. He will be back in the team in a few weeks.

If it was a Liverpool player involved he would have been sacked on the spot.

Where exactly is Liverpools moral compass. Sack innocent people accused of attempted rape but wear t shirts of support for players who bite and racially abuse other players?  Interesting.

(Accused of) racial abuse. For a legal know-it-all you quite conveniently missed that out for Suarez too.
If Greenwood is innocent, then so is Suarez.

Didnt see too many from United wearing shirts supporting Greenwood though. (Obviously what Greenwood was accused of is 100x worse than Suarez before you say it)

The whole Greenwood case is fishy. Has the gf got paid off? Why did it drag out so long?

of course she got paid off
They'll stand up for themselves until a few quid is paid into their accounts

The unfortunate thing here is getting paid off (if that is the case) only makes things worse going forward for future victims to be taken seriously.. Personally no amount of money would stop me seeking justice if my daughter was involved

We know the full facts on this one

Agreed.
The evidence against him was pretty clear cut
It's quite sad that people would take a few quid over their own self respect and worth

[jcpen]

It will be forgotten quickly enough if he plays for United again and scores a winner against Liverpool or City or in a Cup Final. That's not having a go and United fans, it would be the same in any other club.
I can never quite grasp the loyalty some fans will have for players who happen to play for the club they chose to support when they were younger.
Ryan Giggs, John Terry, Suarez just to name a few obvious examples,grown men will defend these players as if they were family. I find it odd.
I see already people defending Greenwood now the charges are dropped.

[Mourne Red]

Sure United and their fans have no values. He will be back in the team in a few weeks.

If it was a Liverpool player involved he would have been sacked on the spot.

Where exactly is Liverpools moral compass. Sack innocent people accused of attempted rape but wear t shirts of support for players who bite and racially abuse other players?  Interesting.

(Accused of) racial abuse. For a legal know-it-all you quite conveniently missed that out for Suarez too.
If Greenwood is innocent, then so is Suarez.

Didnt see too many from United wearing shirts supporting Greenwood though. (Obviously what Greenwood was accused of is 100x worse than Suarez before you say it)

The whole Greenwood case is fishy. Has the gf got paid off? Why did it drag out so long?

of course she got paid off
They'll stand up for themselves until a few quid is paid into their accounts

The unfortunate thing here is getting paid off (if that is the case) only makes things worse going forward for future victims to be taken seriously.. Personally no amount of money would stop me seeking justice if my daughter was involved

We know the full facts on this one

Same, he wouldn't be walking if it was me - But I think she was pressured by her family to drop out. I don't know if you seen her dads statement, saying "they were very much in love" and "he's been apart of our family for 3 years" almost seemed like he had dollar signs in his eyes.

[square_ball]

Same, he wouldn't be walking if it was me - But I think she was pressured by her family to drop out. I don't know if you seen her dads statement, saying "they were very much in love" and "he's been apart of our family for 3 years" almost seemed like he had dollar signs in his eyes.

I remember the dads comments at the time alright and sounded like he was more worried about the gravy train ending than what was happening to his daughter.

[Armagh18]

If there was justice in the world he'd be shot dead for what he did to that girl. But like with everything money talks

[Maroon Manc]

Greenwoods ability make this a huge dilemma, you've a player who potentially can be one of the worlds best; If he wasn't in that bracket I suspect they'd just pay up his contract but there's no doubt someone would sign him and 12 months down the line he'd be back playing for a top club. Football fans are fickle and the abuse will eventually simmer down. Suspect Ten Hag will want him  back but the sponsors will obviously have a huge say in this, if this had happened last month then he'd probably have gone overseas on loan.

The story around Manchester is that they were back together last summer so it was surprising to see him charged in November, unfortunately this case has done nothing to help rape victims.

[oakleaflad]

Sure United and their fans have no values. He will be back in the team in a few weeks.

If it was a Liverpool player involved he would have been sacked on the spot.

This is absolute nonsense. I'm a fan myself and having talked to quite a few others the consensus was he should never play for the club again and probably should be in jail.

[Armagh18]

Greenwoods ability make this a huge dilemma, you've a player who potentially can be one of the worlds best; If he wasn't in that bracket I suspect they'd just pay up his contract but there's no doubt someone would sign him and 12 months down the line he'd be back playing for a top club. Football fans are fickle and the abuse will eventually simmer down. Suspect Ten Hag will want him  back but the sponsors will obviously have a huge say in this, if this had happened last month then he'd probably have gone overseas on loan.

The story around Manchester is that they were back together last summer so it was surprising to see him charged in November, unfortunately this case has done nothing to help rape victims.

If United pay him up he'll be at Chelsea or a top Italian or Spanish team by next summer banging in goals

[Ed Ricketts]

Greenwoods ability make this a huge dilemma, you've a player who potentially can be one of the worlds best; If he wasn't in that bracket I suspect they'd just pay up his contract but there's no doubt someone would sign him and 12 months down the line he'd be back playing for a top club. Football fans are fickle and the abuse will eventually simmer down. Suspect Ten Hag will want him  back but the sponsors will obviously have a huge say in this, if this had happened last month then he'd probably have gone overseas on loan.

The story around Manchester is that they were back together last summer so it was surprising to see him charged in November, unfortunately this case has done nothing to help rape victims.

It doesn't really seem like a huge dilemma. Pretty simple that he never plays for the club again (nor any other club in England, even Chelsea) - short of some extraordinary information coming to light that credibly dilutes the seriousness of what everyone knows went on here.

Whatever about his ability or value, right now he's commercial kryptonite. Playing him would cost the club much more than what they lose by ditching him.

United's own 'process', as per their statement, is a just a play for time so that they can get their legal and financial ducks in a row. It's unlikely the Glazers fancy shelling out the £8-10 million for the remainder of his contract at a time when they're looking shot of the club - so this 'process' could well drag on until new owners are in place.

Whole thing is a mess for the club, would've been much better to see him go down. Which is also what the pathetic **** deserved.

[Armagh18]

Greenwoods ability make this a huge dilemma, you've a player who potentially can be one of the worlds best; If he wasn't in that bracket I suspect they'd just pay up his contract but there's no doubt someone would sign him and 12 months down the line he'd be back playing for a top club. Football fans are fickle and the abuse will eventually simmer down. Suspect Ten Hag will want him  back but the sponsors will obviously have a huge say in this, if this had happened last month then he'd probably have gone overseas on loan.

The story around Manchester is that they were back together last summer so it was surprising to see him charged in November, unfortunately this case has done nothing to help rape victims.

It doesn't really seem like a huge dilemma. Pretty simple that he never plays for the club again (nor any other club in England, even Chelsea) - short of some extraordinary information coming to light that credibly dilutes the seriousness of what everyone knows went on here.

Whatever about his ability or value, right now he's commercial kryptonite. Playing him would cost the club much more than what they lose by ditching him.

United's own 'process', as per their statement, is a just a play for time so that they can get their legal and financial ducks in a row. It's unlikely the Glazers fancy shelling out the £8-10 million for the remainder of his contract at a time when they're looking shot of the club - so this 'process' could well drag on until new owners are in place.

Whole thing is a mess for the club, would've been much better to see him go down. Which is also what the pathetic **** deserved.

Look at Partey at Arsenal. Alonso actually killed someone and played for Chelsea. I would rule nothing out

[Mourne Red]

Greenwoods ability make this a huge dilemma, you've a player who potentially can be one of the worlds best; If he wasn't in that bracket I suspect they'd just pay up his contract but there's no doubt someone would sign him and 12 months down the line he'd be back playing for a top club. Football fans are fickle and the abuse will eventually simmer down. Suspect Ten Hag will want him  back but the sponsors will obviously have a huge say in this, if this had happened last month then he'd probably have gone overseas on loan.

The story around Manchester is that they were back together last summer so it was surprising to see him charged in November, unfortunately this case has done nothing to help rape victims.

It doesn't really seem like a huge dilemma. Pretty simple that he never plays for the club again (nor any other club in England, even Chelsea) - short of some extraordinary information coming to light that credibly dilutes the seriousness of what everyone knows went on here.

Whatever about his ability or value, right now he's commercial kryptonite. Playing him would cost the club much more than what they lose by ditching him.

United's own 'process', as per their statement, is a just a play for time so that they can get their legal and financial ducks in a row. It's unlikely the Glazers fancy shelling out the £8-10 million for the remainder of his contract at a time when they're looking shot of the club - so this 'process' could well drag on until new owners are in place.

Whole thing is a mess for the club, would've been much better to see him go down. Which is also what the pathetic **** deserved.

Look at Partey at Arsenal. Alonso actually killed someone and played for Chelsea. I would rule nothing out

Partey hasn't been charged yet and details aren't out as they were with Greenwood.. I'm an Arsenal fan and don't think Partey should be playing with the investigation going on. Mendy at City is interesting too, he's been found not guilty of a lot of charges still some he's getting re-trialled on but if hes found not guilty with them do City take him back?

[NAG1]

Completely different case here as he has no case to answer, it didnt even make the length of a court room.

Say whatever you like about the noise around it and the truth actually is that none of us know the truth. But obviously there has been some coming together of all the parties behind the scenes.

So it will make for an interesting test case to see what happens next.

[Ed Ricketts]

Greenwoods ability make this a huge dilemma, you've a player who potentially can be one of the worlds best; If he wasn't in that bracket I suspect they'd just pay up his contract but there's no doubt someone would sign him and 12 months down the line he'd be back playing for a top club. Football fans are fickle and the abuse will eventually simmer down. Suspect Ten Hag will want him  back but the sponsors will obviously have a huge say in this, if this had happened last month then he'd probably have gone overseas on loan.

The story around Manchester is that they were back together last summer so it was surprising to see him charged in November, unfortunately this case has done nothing to help rape victims.

It doesn't really seem like a huge dilemma. Pretty simple that he never plays for the club again (nor any other club in England, even Chelsea) - short of some extraordinary information coming to light that credibly dilutes the seriousness of what everyone knows went on here.

Whatever about his ability or value, right now he's commercial kryptonite. Playing him would cost the club much more than what they lose by ditching him.

United's own 'process', as per their statement, is a just a play for time so that they can get their legal and financial ducks in a row. It's unlikely the Glazers fancy shelling out the £8-10 million for the remainder of his contract at a time when they're looking shot of the club - so this 'process' could well drag on until new owners are in place.

Whole thing is a mess for the club, would've been much better to see him go down. Which is also what the pathetic **** deserved.

Look at Partey at Arsenal. Alonso actually killed someone and played for Chelsea. I would rule nothing out

Partey hasn't been charged yet and details aren't out as they were with Greenwood.. I'm an Arsenal fan and don't think Partey should be playing with the investigation going on. Mendy at City is interesting too, he's been found not guilty of a lot of charges still some he's getting re-trialled on but if hes found not guilty with them do City take him back?

The Partey thing stinks, but, as you say, the difference is that there are very few details in the public domain. Everyone can look the other way.

But even with the dropping of the Greenwood case, those audio clips and photos need an awful lot of explaining before a club with any sort of commercial presence takes him on board.

Likely that Mendy will be out of contract before there is a resolution of his cases, so little for City to figure out.

[trailer]

Somethings are bigger than money. This is one of those such things.
We obviously don't know every single fact but if what we saw and heard is true then I don't want to see him in a Utd shirt again.

[Captain Obvious]

"key witnesses to withdraw from the case and the emergence of new evidence"

Who are the witnesses but the girl and what is this new evidence? Little transparency in this case. He's still young but will do well to re-start his career at whatever club will take him on and no sponsor will want to touch him.