Man Utd Thread:

Started by full back, November 10, 2006, 08:13:49 AM

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Bronco

Good win for Utd. Carrying on where they left off last season in term of entertainment.

Geoff Tipps

According to some United fans here Ole has a good record in the transfer market. He's spent £130 million on Maguire and AWB. Let that sink in!

Boycey

Scoring the winner after the final whistle is a new one on me  :)

Farrandeelin

Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 26, 2020, 02:37:20 PM
Great to see. Another massive win to paper over the cracks and keep Ole at the wheel another while.  ;D

More like papering over a whole door.
Inaugural Football Championship Prediction Winner.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 26, 2020, 03:29:17 PM
According to some United fans here Ole has a good record in the transfer market. He's spent £130 million on Maguire and AWB. Let that sink in!

Ole had little or no say in those transfers. He has no say in any transfer business. Any manager referring to a former manager as the Boss is always going to be in trouble when looking for respect. Amazing how the Glazers hide in the background in all of this. Seeping money from the club!

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: From the Bunker on September 26, 2020, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 26, 2020, 03:29:17 PM
According to some United fans here Ole has a good record in the transfer market. He's spent £130 million on Maguire and AWB. Let that sink in!

Ole had little or no say in those transfers. He has no say in any transfer business. Any manager referring to a former manager as the Boss is always going to be in trouble when looking for respect. Amazing how the Glazers hide in the background in all of this. Seeping money from the club!

The nonsense about the Glazers not spending money or investing is a joke. They have invested the guys of £900m since Fergie retired in 2013. The difference is the purchases have failed, not the lack of investment.

Cunny Funt

Quote from: From the Bunker on September 26, 2020, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 26, 2020, 03:29:17 PM
According to some United fans here Ole has a good record in the transfer market. He's spent £130 million on Maguire and AWB. Let that sink in!

Ole had little or no say in those transfers. He has no say in any transfer business. Any manager referring to a former manager as the Boss is always going to be in trouble when looking for respect. Amazing how the Glazers hide in the background in all of this. Seeping money from the club!

He has a say every manager does in who are brought in. Yet they don't always get their prime targets especially at United. Ole doesn't set the transfer fees that's the job of Woodward and his chief negotiator Matt Judge.

2018/19 United conceded 54 PL goals. With AWB, Maguire in defence United conceded 36 PL goals last season.

Boycey

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 26, 2020, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 26, 2020, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 26, 2020, 03:29:17 PM
According to some United fans here Ole has a good record in the transfer market. He's spent £130 million on Maguire and AWB. Let that sink in!

Ole had little or no say in those transfers. He has no say in any transfer business. Any manager referring to a former manager as the Boss is always going to be in trouble when looking for respect. Amazing how the Glazers hide in the background in all of this. Seeping money from the club!

The nonsense about the Glazers not spending money or investing is a joke. They have invested the guys of £900m since Fergie retired in 2013. The difference is the purchases have failed, not the lack of investment.

Small point of order the Glazers haven't invested a penny in the club since buying it in 2005. They have cost it £1.5billion in that timeframe though.

Gaafan2

Quote from: Boycey on September 26, 2020, 07:16:14 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 26, 2020, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 26, 2020, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 26, 2020, 03:29:17 PM
According to some United fans here Ole has a good record in the transfer market. He's spent £130 million on Maguire and AWB. Let that sink in!

Ole had little or no say in those transfers. He has no say in any transfer business. Any manager referring to a former manager as the Boss is always going to be in trouble when looking for respect. Amazing how the Glazers hide in the background in all of this. Seeping money from the club!

The nonsense about the Glazers not spending money or investing is a joke. They have invested the guys of £900m since Fergie retired in 2013. The difference is the purchases have failed, not the lack of investment.

Small point of order the Glazers haven't invested a penny in the club since buying it in 2005. They have cost it £1.5billion in that timeframe though.

Another point worth noting is the fact most other clubs are investing in their stadiums, training facilities etc. yet the glazers have failed to do so, instead the facilities have become tired and dated.

Dar31

Its just a business to the glazers  trying to get more out then they put in and sell it which they will eventually for the best price they can get . Whatever about fergie time ole time brings it to a whole new level brighton deserved at least a point we were terrible at times

From the Bunker

Quote from: Dar31 on September 26, 2020, 08:48:41 PM
Its just a business to the glazers  trying to get more out then they put in and sell it which they will eventually for the best price they can get . Whatever about fergie time ole time brings it to a whole new level brighton deserved at least a point we were terrible at times

Yes, unlike Roman Abramovich with Chelsea, this is not an ego trip for the Glazers! This is a way of making not spending money!

snoopdog

Quote from: gaafan2 on September 26, 2020, 08:13:13 PM
Quote from: Boycey on September 26, 2020, 07:16:14 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 26, 2020, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 26, 2020, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 26, 2020, 03:29:17 PM
According to some United fans here Ole has a good record in the transfer market. He's spent £130 million on Maguire and AWB. Let that sink in!

Ole had little or no say in those transfers. He has no say in any transfer business. Any manager referring to a former manager as the Boss is always going to be in trouble when looking for respect. Amazing how the Glazers hide in the background in all of this. Seeping money from the club!

The nonsense about the Glazers not spending money or investing is a joke. They have invested the guys of £900m since Fergie retired in 2013. The difference is the purchases have failed, not the lack of investment.

Small point of order the Glazers haven't invested a penny in the club since buying it in 2005. They have cost it £1.5billion in that timeframe though.

Another point worth noting is the fact most other clubs are investing in their stadiums, training facilities etc. yet the glazers have failed to do so, instead the facilities have become tired and dated.
I dont buy into this. Old trafford has had 3 stands rebuilt since 1994  bar the south stand, No it's not ultra modern like spurs or arsenal but it's far from a kip I've been in most parts of it yes its basic but its alot bigger than most so I suppose money was saved somewhere to add capacity. Carrington isnt that old a facility 20 years roughly.   

Gaafan2

Quote from: snoopdog on September 26, 2020, 09:52:59 PM
Quote from: gaafan2 on September 26, 2020, 08:13:13 PM
Quote from: Boycey on September 26, 2020, 07:16:14 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 26, 2020, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 26, 2020, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 26, 2020, 03:29:17 PM
According to some United fans here Ole has a good record in the transfer market. He's spent £130 million on Maguire and AWB. Let that sink in!

Ole had little or no say in those transfers. He has no say in any transfer business. Any manager referring to a former manager as the Boss is always going to be in trouble when looking for respect. Amazing how the Glazers hide in the background in all of this. Seeping money from the club!

The nonsense about the Glazers not spending money or investing is a joke. They have invested the guys of £900m since Fergie retired in 2013. The difference is the purchases have failed, not the lack of investment.

Small point of order the Glazers haven't invested a penny in the club since buying it in 2005. They have cost it £1.5billion in that timeframe though.

Another point worth noting is the fact most other clubs are investing in their stadiums, training facilities etc. yet the glazers have failed to do so, instead the facilities have become tired and dated.
I dont buy into this. Old trafford has had 3 stands rebuilt since 1994  bar the south stand, No it's not ultra modern like spurs or arsenal but it's far from a kip I've been in most parts of it yes its basic but its alot bigger than most so I suppose money was saved somewhere to add capacity. Carrington isnt that old a facility 20 years roughly.
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Your missing the point. I'm not talking about building a new stadium. The glazers have owned the club since 2005 (15 years). That's a long time to have invested no money in upgrading the facilities.

I've owned my house for 17 years but I continually upgrade it so it doesn't become tired and dated.

GiveItToTheShooters

Manchester United with their customary penalty from Penandes AFTER the final whistle today. The corruption knows no bounds. I wonder will VAR go back and award Sheffield United's over-the-line goal against Villa last year, or correct Liverpool's "offside" against Man city in 2014 to hand us another title. I think not.

thewobbler

If I were a United fan I wouldn't be annoyed about the levels of investment in the first team by the Glazers, so much as flabbergasted by the lack of strategy in that investment.

Harry Maguire at 80m was possibly one of the more prudent transfers United have undertaken in the past decade. Which kind of sums it up.

Breaking all sorts of record to bring in fullbacks with zero attacking pedigree was a clinker. Is it even possible to challenge for a title without attacking fullbacks?

Collecting a litany of centre halves that were weaker than Jones and Smalling was bizarre.

Offering £500k a week to Sanchez and making a lazy overpaid first team fee undervalued was an extraordinary decision.

Buying Di Maria for £65m when the manager didn't play with wingers was a head scratcher.

Taking in Chelsea's ageing subs - Mata and Matic - to lead the league cup early rounds XI was unnecessarily extravagant.

Spending a shedload on Lukaku to realise what everyone knew - great finisher, average player - and then sell him for that same reason, was weird.

But not as weird as buying Fred for 50m without seemingly having any idea what position he should play in.

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None of these seemed like panic buys either. They're just the kind of buys that people would try in Championship Manager, and not in the real world