Man Utd Thread:

[magpie seanie]

So that is a combo of:

Baily
Rojo
Maguire
Lindeloff
Fosu-Mensah
Jones

Still a lot more options (regardless of the quality of option) than the squad has going on in attack.

Tuanzebe also.

[BennyCake]

Squad now improved that the Jason Lee is away.

Good riddance. He's an absolute clown.

Darmian leaving now too. Possibly Rojo.

Ole is certainly getting rid of a lot of the dead wood. It's badly needed.

[magpie seanie]

Roma have only inquired about a loan.....nothing done yet.

[trailer]

Roma have only inquired about a loan.....nothing done yet.

f**k sake.

[t_mac]

Champions League draw on lads. 

[Cunny Funt]

Champions League draw on lads. 

During it Eric Cantona picked up the presidents award and he was asked what is going through his mind now?  The answer didn't disappoint.

As files to wanton boys, we are for the gods, they kill us for their sport. Soon the science will not only be able to slow down the ageing of the cells, soon the science will fix the cells to the state and so we will become external, only accidents,crimes,wars will kill us, but unfortunately crimes and wars will multiply.

I love football. Thank you.

[Boycey]

Ya could of supplied the link

https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1167108949314875392?s=09

Go on Eric ya mad thing ya...

[under the bar]

Ya could of supplied the link

https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1167108949314875392?s=09

Go on Eric ya mad thing ya...

King Eric. Hammer of the Scouse

[From the Bunker]

Eric was the reason Utd won leagues, he was was also the reason why Utd were shite in Europe.

[Never beat the deeler]

Ya could of supplied the link

https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1167108949314875392?s=09

Go on Eric ya mad thing ya...

Had to laugh when people on twitter were claiming that this was better than Shakespeare!!!

[magpie seanie]

Eric was the reason Utd won leagues, he was was also the reason why Utd were shite in Europe.

That's a commonly held untruth, probably due to Dunphy slating him at every opportunity. The reason United were "shite" in Europe in those days was because they couldn't field their full team. They had to put youth team players into their team due to restrictions that restricted the use of non English players. Cantona played in 3 European Cup campaigns. He played 16 games and scored 5 goals in a weakened team. One of those seasons (his last) United were pretty unlucky to lose a semi final to the eventual winners Dortmund - incidentally he told Ferguson he was retiring the day afterwards.

When I think about the lack of European Cups United have for a club their size this stupid rule and the air disaster come to mind. I've no doubt the club would have 2 or 3 more at least but for those two things.

[magpie seanie]

Ya could of supplied the link

https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1167108949314875392?s=09

Go on Eric ya mad thing ya...

We were lucky to have him play for United. People can try to pick holes all they like but I pity them really. The man is a genius.

[AZOffaly]

Eric was the reason Utd won leagues, he was was also the reason why Utd were shite in Europe.

That's a commonly held untruth, probably due to Dunphy slating him at every opportunity. The reason United were "shite" in Europe in those days was because they couldn't field their full team. They had to put youth team players into their team due to restrictions that restricted the use of non English players. Cantona played in 3 European Cup campaigns. He played 16 games and scored 5 goals in a weakened team. One of those seasons (his last) United were pretty unlucky to lose a semi final to the eventual winners Dortmund - incidentally he told Ferguson he was retiring the day afterwards.

When I think about the lack of European Cups United have for a club their size this stupid rule and the air disaster come to mind. I've no doubt the club would have 2 or 3 more at least but for those two things.

I think Ferguson also contributed in the early days. He tried to out-think himself sometimes in European games instead of letting his lads off the leash. I think Liverpool in the 80s may have influenced him whereby they set out to kill the away leg and win at Anfield. But they had players that could do that. United were rawer at that stage and probably just needed to be let loose.

As for the foreigner rule, every club had to adhere to that, including the Italians, Spanish and Germans, so it was a level playing field. If they were allowed play foreigners who knows what they'd have won also.

[mouview]

Eric was the reason Utd won leagues, he was was also the reason why Utd were shite in Europe.

That's a commonly held untruth, probably due to Dunphy slating him at every opportunity. The reason United were "shite" in Europe in those days was because they couldn't field their full team. They had to put youth team players into their team due to restrictions that restricted the use of non English players. Cantona played in 3 European Cup campaigns. He played 16 games and scored 5 goals in a weakened team. One of those seasons (his last) United were pretty unlucky to lose a semi final to the eventual winners Dortmund - incidentally he told Ferguson he was retiring the day afterwards.

When I think about the lack of European Cups United have for a club their size this stupid rule and the air disaster come to mind. I've no doubt the club would have 2 or 3 more at least but for those two things.

I think Ferguson also contributed in the early days. He tried to out-think himself sometimes in European games instead of letting his lads off the leash. I think Liverpool in the 80s may have influenced him whereby they set out to kill the away leg and win at Anfield. But they had players that could do that. United were rawer at that stage and probably just needed to be let loose.

As for the foreigner rule, every club had to adhere to that, including the Italians, Spanish and Germans, so it was a level playing field. If they were allowed play foreigners who knows what they'd have won also.

Ferguson was regularly tactically found out in Europe; got a good few schoolings, not just from Barce, but from lesser teams also in how to pass and retain possession. Don't forget, he was damn lucky to win the 2 he did; Bayern outplayed them in '99, striking the post at one stage, while only for John Terry's slip and Anelka's petulance...

[magpie seanie]

Eric was the reason Utd won leagues, he was was also the reason why Utd were shite in Europe.

That's a commonly held untruth, probably due to Dunphy slating him at every opportunity. The reason United were "shite" in Europe in those days was because they couldn't field their full team. They had to put youth team players into their team due to restrictions that restricted the use of non English players. Cantona played in 3 European Cup campaigns. He played 16 games and scored 5 goals in a weakened team. One of those seasons (his last) United were pretty unlucky to lose a semi final to the eventual winners Dortmund - incidentally he told Ferguson he was retiring the day afterwards.

When I think about the lack of European Cups United have for a club their size this stupid rule and the air disaster come to mind. I've no doubt the club would have 2 or 3 more at least but for those two things.

I think Ferguson also contributed in the early days. He tried to out-think himself sometimes in European games instead of letting his lads off the leash. I think Liverpool in the 80s may have influenced him whereby they set out to kill the away leg and win at Anfield. But they had players that could do that. United were rawer at that stage and probably just needed to be let loose.

As for the foreigner rule, every club had to adhere to that, including the Italians, Spanish and Germans, so it was a level playing field. If they were allowed play foreigners who knows what they'd have won also.

I agree with you on Liverpool's approach in the 80's. United weren't set up to do that, it's not in the clubs DNA and Ferguson was wrong to approach some games that way. The Monaco quarter final and Dortmund semi final were lost by playing it too cagey but I think that's because he didn't have his full array of talent available.

Regarding the foreigner rule - the point is how would Liverpool have coped in the late 70's/early 80's if that rule was in place? It had a far bigger impact on English teams because Scottish and Welsh players were counted as foreigners and with no functioning league in Ireland, classifying Irish players as foreign was also fairly unfair. The impact on teams from the other big leagues was minor. Practically zero.