Man Utd Thread:

[magpie seanie]

No surprises with that last night. Exactly what was expected. More of the same rubbish. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic and play conservatively but this was Sevilla, not Barcelona or Bayern or Real and this type of rubbish is now unfortunately the norm. 0-0 away in the first leg is a terribly dangerous score and especially for a team that score very few goals against decent opposition. I still think United will go through but with the players United have and the money that has been spent they should be taking out the likes of Sevilla. Contrast United's tactics to those of Spurs and Liverpool who I don't believe have better squads. The bottom line is Mourinho is not a Manchester United manager and never will be. He's a scrubber.

Delighted at the emergence of McTominay. He looks a real player and last night was probably the most pressure situation he was in and he has no problems.

I think United will go through but it could be a hairy evening.

[johnneycool]

No surprises with that last night. Exactly what was expected. More of the same rubbish. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic and play conservatively but this was Sevilla, not Barcelona or Bayern or Real and this type of rubbish is now unfortunately the norm. 0-0 away in the first leg is a terribly dangerous score and especially for a team that score very few goals against decent opposition. I still think United will go through but with the players United have and the money that has been spent they should be taking out the likes of Sevilla. Contrast United's tactics to those of Spurs and Liverpool who I don't believe have better squads. The bottom line is Mourinho is not a Manchester United manager and never will be. He's a scrubber.

Delighted at the emergence of McTominay. He looks a real player and last night was probably the most pressure situation he was in and he has no problems.

I think United will go through but it could be a hairy evening.

Aye,
    but he's a stopper, a tackler and all that. The type of player Josie likes. He's not the most creative soul with the ball at his feet.

[magpie seanie]

No surprises with that last night. Exactly what was expected. More of the same rubbish. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic and play conservatively but this was Sevilla, not Barcelona or Bayern or Real and this type of rubbish is now unfortunately the norm. 0-0 away in the first leg is a terribly dangerous score and especially for a team that score very few goals against decent opposition. I still think United will go through but with the players United have and the money that has been spent they should be taking out the likes of Sevilla. Contrast United's tactics to those of Spurs and Liverpool who I don't believe have better squads. The bottom line is Mourinho is not a Manchester United manager and never will be. He's a scrubber.

Delighted at the emergence of McTominay. He looks a real player and last night was probably the most pressure situation he was in and he has no problems.

I think United will go through but it could be a hairy evening.

Aye,
    but he's a stopper, a tackler and all that. The type of player Josie likes. He's not the most creative soul with the ball at his feet.

I think he's more than that to be honest. Maroon Manc will fill us on more on this but McTominay was a small midfield schemer like a Modric and suddenly grew 5 or 6 inches in a year. The technical ability is there.

Correction - he grew 10 inches in 2 years. From 5'6" to 6'4".

[NAG1]

No surprises with that last night. Exactly what was expected. More of the same rubbish. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic and play conservatively but this was Sevilla, not Barcelona or Bayern or Real and this type of rubbish is now unfortunately the norm. 0-0 away in the first leg is a terribly dangerous score and especially for a team that score very few goals against decent opposition. I still think United will go through but with the players United have and the money that has been spent they should be taking out the likes of Sevilla. Contrast United's tactics to those of Spurs and Liverpool who I don't believe have better squads. The bottom line is Mourinho is not a Manchester United manager and never will be. He's a scrubber.

Delighted at the emergence of McTominay. He looks a real player and last night was probably the most pressure situation he was in and he has no problems.

I think United will go through but it could be a hairy evening.

Aye,
    but he's a stopper, a tackler and all that. The type of player Josie likes. He's not the most creative soul with the ball at his feet.

I think he's more than that to be honest. Maroon Manc will fill us on more on this but McTominay was a small midfield schemer like a Modric and suddenly grew 5 or 6 inches in a year. The technical ability is there.

Correction - he grew 10 inches in 2 years. From 5'6" to 6'4".

Technically very good and the comparisons too Carrick are pretty obvious with the similar style if he turns out to be as good or better he will be a very good player.

Think the team are low on confience currently and combine that with the pragmatic style of JM it was always going to be a stale affair. DDG again some massive saves.

Feel sorry for Herrera thought he was really going to make the push this year but injury and lack of game time seem to stunted another season for him.

[Taylor]

Through all of this it seems M Seanie has been correct from the beginning about Maureen.

Players would have been attracted to Utd because of the way they used to play and that they are one of the biggest clubs in the world.
Nowadays if you go to Utd you will play stale, sterile football week in week out and you run the risk of getting slated in public by the manager or similar.

Manchester is blue for the forseeable future people

[Milltown Row2]

No surprises with that last night. Exactly what was expected. More of the same rubbish. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic and play conservatively but this was Sevilla, not Barcelona or Bayern or Real and this type of rubbish is now unfortunately the norm. 0-0 away in the first leg is a terribly dangerous score and especially for a team that score very few goals against decent opposition. I still think United will go through but with the players United have and the money that has been spent they should be taking out the likes of Sevilla. Contrast United's tactics to those of Spurs and Liverpool who I don't believe have better squads. The bottom line is Mourinho is not a Manchester United manager and never will be. He's a scrubber.

Delighted at the emergence of McTominay. He looks a real player and last night was probably the most pressure situation he was in and he has no problems.

I think United will go through but it could be a hairy evening.

Aye,
    but he's a stopper, a tackler and all that. The type of player Josie likes. He's not the most creative soul with the ball at his feet.

I think he's more than that to be honest. Maroon Manc will fill us on more on this but McTominay was a small midfield schemer like a Modric and suddenly grew 5 or 6 inches in a year. The technical ability is there.

Correction - he grew 10 inches in 2 years. From 5'6" to 6'4".

I was waiting on that happening to me but just stayed at 5'6 

[Milltown Row2]

Through all of this it seems M Seanie has been correct from the beginning about Maureen.

Players would have been attracted to Utd because of the way they used to play and that they are one of the biggest clubs in the world.
Nowadays if you go to Utd you will play stale, sterile football week in week out and you run the risk of getting slated in public by the manager or similar.

Manchester is blue for the forseeable future people

I think the EPL is blue for as long as Pepe stays

[Maroon Manc]

No surprises with that last night. Exactly what was expected. More of the same rubbish. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic and play conservatively but this was Sevilla, not Barcelona or Bayern or Real and this type of rubbish is now unfortunately the norm. 0-0 away in the first leg is a terribly dangerous score and especially for a team that score very few goals against decent opposition. I still think United will go through but with the players United have and the money that has been spent they should be taking out the likes of Sevilla. Contrast United's tactics to those of Spurs and Liverpool who I don't believe have better squads. The bottom line is Mourinho is not a Manchester United manager and never will be. He's a scrubber.

Delighted at the emergence of McTominay. He looks a real player and last night was probably the most pressure situation he was in and he has no problems.

I think United will go through but it could be a hairy evening.

Aye,
    but he's a stopper, a tackler and all that. The type of player Josie likes. He's not the most creative soul with the ball at his feet.

I think he's more than that to be honest. Maroon Manc will fill us on more on this but McTominay was a small midfield schemer like a Modric and suddenly grew 5 or 6 inches in a year. The technical ability is there.

Correction - he grew 10 inches in 2 years. From 5'6" to 6'4".

I've seen very little of him, always seem to be injured when I watching or when he wasn't playing and he wasn't one you'd be watching. I think it could be a few years before we see how good he can be, he's technically very good but we haven't seen much of him on the ball yet bar the odd moment where he breaks out of conservatism.

[Milltown Row2]

Listen it was 90 minutes of my life i wont get back.. but it served a purpose, stepping stone possibly to the next round, this wasnt a group match or a league game, knockout footballl where no one remembers the losers...

What do fans want? winners or losers who play with flair? Its a hard pill to swallow but Utd are not the team of yesterday! 

[AZOffaly]

Listen it was 90 minutes of my life i wont get back.. but it served a purpose, stepping stone possibly to the next round, this wasnt a group match or a league game, knockout footballl where no one remembers the losers...

What do fans want? winners or losers who play with flair? Its a hard pill to swallow but Utd are not the team of yesterday!

I know what you are saying, but it's not mutually exclusive. Did Hamann enjoyed sticking the boot in last night, and I thought it was crazy considering United are ahead of Liverpool all season. He did, however, make one good point. There's nothing wrong with being solid and hard to break down. That's a skill in itself, and it's one I wish Liverpool were better at. However when you have the ball, you have to be creative. Man United can call on Pogba, Mata, Rashford, Lindegard, Martial, Lukaku, Sanchez etc. Surely they can be more adventurous when they have the ball?

[magpie seanie]

Listen it was 90 minutes of my life i wont get back.. but it served a purpose, stepping stone possibly to the next round, this wasnt a group match or a league game, knockout footballl where no one remembers the losers...

What do fans want? winners or losers who play with flair? Its a hard pill to swallow but Utd are not the team of yesterday!

I know what you are saying, but it's not mutually exclusive. Did Hamann enjoyed sticking the boot in last night, and I thought it was crazy considering United are ahead of Liverpool all season. He did, however, make one good point. There's nothing wrong with being solid and hard to break down. That's a skill in itself, and it's one I wish Liverpool were better at. However when you have the ball, you have to be creative. Man United can call on Pogba, Mata, Rashford, Lindegard, Martial, Lukaku, Sanchez etc. Surely they can be more adventurous when they have the ball?

They can't be with this coach. He won't allow it.

[AZOffaly]

I know. That's sort of what I'm saying. I think if Mourinho trusted his players more, they'd be a lot more expansive with the ball. He actually reminds me of Jimmy McGuinness and what he did with the likes of Michael Murphy.

[magpie seanie]

This is the way he has always been. It's why I cannot stand him and opposed him since it was first mooted that he could become United manager. It's why Bobby Charlton and Alex Ferguson didn't want him as United manager but were ultimately overruled by people who only give a shit about money.

[Hound]

I know. That's sort of what I'm saying. I think if Mourinho trusted his players more, they'd be a lot more expansive with the ball. He actually reminds me of Jimmy McGuinness and what he did with the likes of Michael Murphy.

While that was definitely the case last night, you could argue the flair players you mentioned earlier haven't shown enough in the last month or so to allow him to give them more rope in an away European tie.

[AZOffaly]

I know. That's sort of what I'm saying. I think if Mourinho trusted his players more, they'd be a lot more expansive with the ball. He actually reminds me of Jimmy McGuinness and what he did with the likes of Michael Murphy.

While that was definitely the case last night, you could argue the flair players you mentioned earlier haven't shown enough in the last month or so to allow him to give them more rope in an away European tie.

When has he let them off the leash though? Everything seems to be stodgy with him.