Man Utd Thread:

[ballinaman]

Oh how times have changed for the once great United when they have to take the manager they all despised for so long.

Add to that he was sacked by Chelsea less than a year ago and walks straight into the United job it must be particularly galling!!

Great to see this nonsense of United supposedly being a great club/more loyal/not a sacking club/play great football has gone. They have nothing to be superior about anymore they're the same as everyone else now!!!!

[Maroon Manc]

Oh how times have changed for the once great United when they have to take the manager they all despised for so long.

Add to that he was sacked by Chelsea less than a year ago and walks straight into the United job it must be particularly galling!!

Great to see this nonsense of United supposedly being a great club/more loyal/not a sacking club/play great football has gone. They have nothing to be superior about anymore they're the same as everyone else now!!!!

All despised? Really?

Plenty of United fans were desperate for him to replace Fergie, I wasn't one of them but soon was when I realised we were getting Moyes.

United fans are patient, probably a lot more patient than most as the majority of other clubs supporters would have hounded LVG out at xmas but it was nonsense about us not been a sacking club, we were extremely lucky we had a genius for 26 years and this is where this came from. I don't recall any United fan getting excited stating we don't sack our managers? 

[yellowcard]

And then the backing of the doctor when she was fired was probably when you noticed him losing interest. And who could blame him?
The success that he had brought Chelsea and for the club as a whole to not support him or even try to resolve the problem left him out on a limb.

Absolute nonsense. He questioned the woman's professional integrity. She had a duty of care to treat an injured player, if she had obeyed Mourinho's instructions she would have been derided within her profession as her primary duty is to look after the welfare of the players. It was bully boy behaviour which Mourinho has made a theme of during his time in management. I haven't heard too many people trying to support him on this situation and your comments are indicitive of how some people will simply turn a blind eye to any of his behaviour no matter how despicable. First time around in England I could see some humour in the man and he had a certain charm at times. However the mask slipped when things didn't go his own way and the Madrid job seemed to leave a permanent scar. He returned to England looking worn out and crankier and unless he has found his zest for management during his rest period I'd expect more erratic behaviour again next season. 

[Maroon Manc]

Some nonsense on here from Mourinho passed his sell by date to the manager is not the problem but the Glazers. Mourinho this time last year was manager of the league champions and as much I hate the glazers they are not responsible for LVG's poor performances as a manager this year.

As for the style of football we haven't been great to watch since 2008 and Mourinho's teams aren't that bad to watch.

A rumour started last week that Mourinho wants Brian Kidd back involved in the club, Fergie really will be furious if that happens.

As for our captain marvel he has shown his true colours leaking information to Daniel Taylor & Mark Ogden over the weekend. Rooney really is a c**t.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/79243fec-067f-11e6-9b51-0fb5e65703ce.html

"The innovator's early success guarantees him a long ride at the top. This summer, Guardiola, aged 45, will hop from Bayern Munich to Manchester City. But judging by past innovative managers, he has already peaked. By 45, Johan Cruyff, Arrigo Sacchi and Van Gaal had won their last European trophies. By contrast, less tactically innovative coaches who excel as man managers — notably Alex Ferguson and Carlo Ancelotti — tend to remain successful for longer.
The penultimate stage is where Van Gaal is now: the bewildered old former innovator. The patient passing game he installed at Ajax 25 years ago can no longer pull apart modern defences. Meanwhile his lasting innovations — for instance, making his forwards ceaselessly press opponents to win the ball — have been copied by everyone else. He keeps chopping and changing unproductively at Manchester United, because he no longer knows what to do. Likewise, all Wenger's past innovations have long since become best practice across football."

Mourinho won the Cl in 2004 and again in 2010.
What did he do with Real ?
He is not a man manager, is he ? Ask Casillas
His last season at Chelski was a pantomime

There are far better young fellas like Poch and Tuchel.

Another dud move by the Glazers and Ed know nothing Woodward

I'm a big fan of Poch & Tuchel but what exactly have either of them won? I wouldn't have been disappointed if Poch had turned up but its probably a few years too early for him to move to United.

Mourinho is the best man manager since Fergie, how many players did Fergie fall out with?

He won a league title with Real, he was unfortunate he was up against one of the greatest club sides ever.

You'll need to use a different angle to slate Mourinho as his record is brilliant.

[NAG1]

And then the backing of the doctor when she was fired was probably when you noticed him losing interest. And who could blame him?
The success that he had brought Chelsea and for the club as a whole to not support him or even try to resolve the problem left him out on a limb.

Absolute nonsense. He questioned the woman's professional integrity. She had a duty of care to treat an injured player, if she had obeyed Mourinho's instructions she would have been derided within her profession as her primary duty is to look after the welfare of the players. It was bully boy behaviour which Mourinho has made a theme of during his time in management. I haven't heard too many people trying to support him on this situation and your comments are indicitive of how some people will simply turn a blind eye to any of his behaviour no matter how despicable. First time around in England I could see some humour in the man and he had a certain charm at times. However the mask slipped when things didn't go his own way and the Madrid job seemed to leave a permanent scar. He returned to England looking worn out and crankier and unless he has found his zest for management during his rest period I'd expect more erratic behaviour again next season.

No one is defending him on the doctor situation he was in the wrong, but lets not get carried away she was running on to treat Hazard he wasnt going to die from tripping over his own laces 

I would imagine and would be hoping that the board and the club hierarchy would be sitting with him and outlining that some of his previous antics just will not wash. At the end of the day he now part of a massive global brand as well as being the manager of the team, so he has more to think about when it comes to his behaviour than just FA fines etc.

I have stated on here before that I dont think that he is the ideal man, but I cant even come up with a proper alternative that is available.

I for one was for giving DM a bit more time than he got, I liked LVG even with the poor football I think he has been treated poorly. I will give JM the same time and hope that he can improve the team and behave at the same time.

[Maroon Manc]

Some nonsense on here from Mourinho passed his sell by date to the manager is not the problem but the Glazers. Mourinho this time last year was manager of the league champions and as much I hate the glazers they are not responsible for LVG's poor performances as a manager this year.

As for the style of football we haven't been great to watch since 2008 and Mourinho's teams aren't that bad to watch.

A rumour started last week that Mourinho wants Brian Kidd back involved in the club, Fergie really will be furious if that happens.

As for our captain marvel he has shown his true colours leaking information to Daniel Taylor & Mark Ogden over the weekend. Rooney really is a c**t.

Time will tell, it does no matter how good you are as a coach if the players don't play for you, United's players will back him if they like him, if not he is fucked, my money is on him throwing a few players under the bus and the squad turning on him.

Be interesting to see how he deals with Mata.

He's been here over 2 years now and he's done nothing to suggest we should be desperate to keep him, I think Mata & Fellaini both have 2 years left on their contracts which is usually the point where United offer them a new deal or get rid. We're blessed with one paced midfielders with them 2, Rooney, Schweinsteiger & Carrick. I think Herrera & Schniderlin are both safe but the likes of Blind & Rojo will be sweating along with Fellaini & Mata. I'd imagine our resident German is safe given he's on silly money and there's no club in Europe to offer him a similar deal .

We need at least one centre half, a centre mid, a right sided attacking player and a centre forward. I can see him buying Stones and bringing in a other experienced centre half. I haven't a clue which midfielders or wingers he'll be after although I'm sure he'll be happy if the club go after Pogba. I really hope we go for Zlatan, age wise he won't get in the way of Rashford and given the amount of games we'll play next season Rashford would still see plenty of game time although there's news that Vardy has a clause at £22m which might attract United.

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PP's summation of Giggsy's last 29 years at the theatre of w**ks!

[ashman]

Some nonsense on here from Mourinho passed his sell by date to the manager is not the problem but the Glazers. Mourinho this time last year was manager of the league champions and as much I hate the glazers they are not responsible for LVG's poor performances as a manager this year.

As for the style of football we haven't been great to watch since 2008 and Mourinho's teams aren't that bad to watch.

A rumour started last week that Mourinho wants Brian Kidd back involved in the club, Fergie really will be furious if that happens.

As for our captain marvel he has shown his true colours leaking information to Daniel Taylor & Mark Ogden over the weekend. Rooney really is a c**t.

Time will tell, it does no matter how good you are as a coach if the players don't play for you, United's players will back him if they like him, if not he is fucked, my money is on him throwing a few players under the bus and the squad turning on him.

Be interesting to see how he deals with Mata.

He's been here over 2 years now and he's done nothing to suggest we should be desperate to keep him, I think Mata & Fellaini both have 2 years left on their contracts which is usually the point where United offer them a new deal or get rid. We're blessed with one paced midfielders with them 2, Rooney, Schweinsteiger & Carrick. I think Herrera & Schniderlin are both safe but the likes of Blind & Rojo will be sweating along with Fellaini & Mata. I'd imagine our resident German is safe given he's on silly money and there's no club in Europe to offer him a similar deal .

We need at least one centre half, a centre mid, a right sided attacking player and a centre forward. I can see him buying Stones and bringing in a other experienced centre half. I haven't a clue which midfielders or wingers he'll be after although I'm sure he'll be happy if the club go after Pogba. I really hope we go for Zlatan, age wise he won't get in the way of Rashford and given the amount of games we'll play next season Rashford would still see plenty of game time although there's news that Vardy has a clause at £22m which might attract United.

WE ??

[NAG1]

PP's summation of Giggsy's last 29 years at the theatre of w**ks!

Good man screen, another valuable contribution. PP are great marketeers arent they 

[under the bar]

Lol.  brilliant!!

[5 Sams]

Just watched a programme on Sky about Andy Cole...Fcuk he was good. Some of his goals were amazing...yet he never gets mentioned when the United greats are discussed. Discuss

[NAG1]

Just watched a programme on Sky about Andy Cole...Fcuk he was good. Some of his goals were amazing...yet he never gets mentioned when the United greats are discussed. Discuss

Andy Cole was a great striker but it was his chances to goals ratio that would have hurt him from being regarded as one of the greats.
And to be fair with the amount of chances that team created per game, most strikers would have ended up with a bag full of goals.

[seafoid]

Does anyone think Maureen can win the CL with the theatre of downsized dreams ?

[GJL]

Does anyone think Maureen can win the CL with the theatre of downsized dreams ?

He won it with Porto so anything is possible. I will be happy with a league win first and foremost.

[ashman]

Does anyone think Maureen can win the CL with the theatre of downsized dreams ?

There old theory on the prize bonds applies here

"If you are not in it you can't win it "