Man Utd Thread:

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moyes has to be given more time. I think because utd won the title last year people underestimate just how big a job it was. Ferguson knew that his last team needed a major overhaul despite the title due to the age profile of the key players.

The cynic in me thinks that might have been a major factor in his decision to go. His ego could not have taken seeing a team of his  struggle against Newcastle/WBA at home and he knew the writing was on the wall.

The Glazers need to back moyes, prob in the summer as there will be limited quality available in Jan. They would do well to look at the common theme running through all the great teams success periods, Liverpool 70/80s, forest, Everton 80s, United 90s,00s arsenal 90s, 00s. they have all had long periods of managerial stability.The recent oligarch era is skewing this but a great club like United has to think longer-term.

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Quote from: The Worker on Today at 12:15:45 AM

Do you think mike phelan would have done a better job than moyes?

Yes. He's been there a few years, knows the players, coaches, trainers etc. And I'd say Fergie didn't have much hands on with the team in the last couple of years, so alot was left to Phelan. He wouldn't have won the league, nor would Fergie had he stayed. But Fergie knew he was going and didn't worry as much about life after him, hence the poor squad.

Whilst United would not have been certain of winning the league this season with Fergie in charge, only an idiot would claim that they had no chance of winning the league.  They won by 11 points last season, were pipped the season before that, and they won 4 of the 5 titles immediately prior to that.  The stupidity / anti-United bias on here is quite ridiculous.  History suggests that if Fergie were in charge this season United would have been definitely competing for the title, despite the blind claims that their sqaud is vastly inferior to the squads at City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, etc.   

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Whilst United would not have been certain of winning the league this season with Fergie in charge, only an idiot would claim that they had no chance of winning the league.  They won by 11 points last season, were pipped the season before that, and they won 4 of the 5 titles immediately prior to that.  The stupidity / anti-United bias on here is quite ridiculous.  History suggests that if Fergie were in charge this season United would have been definitely competing for the title, despite the blind claims that their sqaud is vastly inferior to the squads at City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, etc.

I'd be surprised a squad with 60+ premier league medals would feel inferior to anyone in England.   

[J70]

Do you think mike phelan would have done a better job than moyes?

Yes. He's been there a few years, knows the players, coaches, trainers etc. And I'd say Fergie didn't have much hands on with the team in the last couple of years, so alot was left to Phelan. He wouldn't have won the league, nor would Fergie had he stayed. But Fergie knew he was going and didn't worry as much about life after him, hence the poor squad.

Many had high hopes for Brian Kidd 15 years ago.

And later on, Carlos Queiros.

Just because you are a capable coach doesn't mean you're going to be a successful manager.

[J70]

And its pretty standard for a manager's backroom team to come and go with him, across all sports. Easy to say in retrospect that bringing in his own team was a mistake, if indeed its valid to point to that as a factor at this early stage.

[J OGorman]

The Surrey stockbrokers / prawn sandwich brigade really sticking by 'their' team

[From the Bunker]

Moyes Out! 

[laoislad]

LOL.
I hope Moyes stays 

[Aaron Boone]

United lack real quality once Rooney and Van Persie are out.

No FA Cup final appearance for United since 2007.

[From the Bunker]

4th tough game in a row for United in Carrow Road which included two defeats do Norwich play that well against the other top sides in the PL?

Very busy January ahead hopefully some of the injured players will be back.

Wed 1 Jan - Spurs (H)
Sun 5 Jan - Swansea (H) FA cup
Tue 7 Jan - Sunderland (A) League cup semi final 1st leg
Sat 11 Jan - Swansea (H)
Sun 19 Jan - Chelsea (A)
Wed 22 Jan - Sunderland (H) League cup semi final 2nd leg
Sat 25th Jan - Possible FA cup tie?
Tue 28 Jan - Cardiff (H)

[ross4life]

Game was heading for a draw where neither were creating much to deserve a win then stupidity from Fabio more or less gave Swansea the opportunity to win that game. Bad defeat but i suppose the home defeat v Leeds 4 years ago was worse.

[BennyCake]

Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, June. That's 6 months to find a manager, and 4 or 5 players (at least).

I honestly think the fans are losing patience. Half the ground left after Swanseas goal. Obviously they don't have faith in Moyes' team to get a late goal.

[ross4life]

4th tough game in a row for United in Carrow Road which included two defeats do Norwich play that well against the other top sides in the PL?

Very busy January ahead hopefully some of the injured players will be back.

Wed 1 Jan - Spurs (H)
Sun 5 Jan - Swansea (H) FA cup
Tue 7 Jan - Sunderland (A) League cup semi final 1st leg
Sat 11 Jan - Swansea (H)
Sun 19 Jan - Chelsea (A)
Wed 22 Jan - Sunderland (H) League cup semi final 2nd leg
Sat 25th Jan - Possible FA cup tie?
Tue 28 Jan - Cardiff (H)

Not sure why you need quote something with possible & question mark Bunker.

[From the Bunker]

4th tough game in a row for United in Carrow Road which included two defeats do Norwich play that well against the other top sides in the PL?

Very busy January ahead hopefully some of the injured players will be back.

Wed 1 Jan - Spurs (H)
Sun 5 Jan - Swansea (H) FA cup
Tue 7 Jan - Sunderland (A) League cup semi final 1st leg
Sat 11 Jan - Swansea (H)
Sun 19 Jan - Chelsea (A)
Wed 22 Jan - Sunderland (H) League cup semi final 2nd leg
Sat 25th Jan - Possible FA cup tie?
Tue 28 Jan - Cardiff (H)

Not sure why you need quote something with possible & question mark Bunker.

Just looking at the month ahead really. Actually should be interesting to see Utd real team play Swansea next Saturday. Today's result could be a blessing in disguise as they have enough on their plate this season without a run in a cup they were never going to win!

[BennyCake]

Game was heading for a draw where neither were creating much to deserve a win then stupidity from Fabio more or less gave Swansea the opportunity to win that game. Bad defeat but i suppose the home defeat v Leeds 4 years ago was worse.

The Leeds loss was a shock, a one off. Swansea wasn't.