Ros v Shligo 12th June 2016.

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INDIANA

Quote from: From the Bunker on June 12, 2016, 07:57:45 PM
Roscommon a step further than last year. Have got to the Connacht final and last 12 at least. Also won enough games to stay in Division One against Division One teams as opposed to Winning enough games against Division Two teams last year to get into Division One.

Don't be fooled by today's Topsy turvey game. This was Sligos biggest game of the year. It was not Roscommons (if they have any ambition). The same can be said for Mayo (if they beat Galway), it will be Roscommons biggest game. That said if they lose to Mayo their last 12 game will be just as important. Quarter Finals is where it is about in the GAA Season.

The Rossies are still tweaking, but are going in the right direction.

Are they though? I don't see how you can say that after beating Div 4 and Div 3 teams.

Down got to Div 1 of the National League so I'm not sure that's the barometer it used to be.

imtommygunn

With current squad down would go to 3 after next year thiough. I think they are an exception.

From the Bunker

Quote from: INDIANA on June 12, 2016, 08:01:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 12, 2016, 07:57:45 PM
Roscommon a step further than last year. Have got to the Connacht final and last 12 at least. Also won enough games to stay in Division One against Division One teams as opposed to Winning enough games against Division Two teams last year to get into Division One.

Don't be fooled by today's Topsy turvey game. This was Sligos biggest game of the year. It was not Roscommons (if they have any ambition). The same can be said for Mayo (if they beat Galway), it will be Roscommons biggest game. That said if they lose to Mayo their last 12 game will be just as important. Quarter Finals is where it is about in the GAA Season.

The Rossies are still tweaking, but are going in the right direction.

Are they though? I don't see how you can say that after beating Div 4 and Div 3 teams.

Down got to Div 1 of the National League so I'm not sure that's the barometer it used to be.

Yes but unlike Down they got results to stay in Div One. As McStay said before the start of the League campaign, You are not a Division One team until you stay in Division One.

I'm not saying Roscommon are world beaters, just they have moved up a level.

Syferus

#258
Reckon both Smiths could start the final. We saw what we were missing while Enda was out today, he's just one of those players that loves to drive around players and he's awful hard to deal with with the ball in hand. It was great to see Donie showing what anyone who follows Roscommon football knows he's capable of.

Shrewdness

Another poor display from Cathal Cregg today. Despite his undoubted talent, these ineffective performances from him are becoming more frequent.

Mano

Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan

I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..

What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?

The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.

All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper?  Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.

Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.

Syferus

#261
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan

I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..

What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?

The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.

All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper?  Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.

Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.

Not too many neutrals support poor Ros. Something about being so handsome.

The sooner Carew is run the better for Sligo but it's not like year had much luck with managers, Flanagan was only average and fled after a year and Walsh stayed about two years too long. Having seen O'Hara up close in Ballagh I wouldn't be running out to get him involved either.

weareros

Quote from: INDIANA on June 12, 2016, 07:52:14 PM
The more I see of Roscommon the more it baffles me that they are considered this sleeping giant.

Marginally above average is how I would describe them.

Ah now who calls us a sleeping giant. We are one of the most sparsely populated counties in Ireland. If Dublin had our pick and resources I can safely say you'd have won sweet feck all in last 150 years. At least we rise above our station every now and then and will do so again, probably sooner than you think.

A very disjointed performance today with some series flaws exposed again but going into Connacht final with dampened expectations is ideal. However I immensely enjoyed the football we played in second half and delighted to see both Smiths back and pray we'll have Diarmuid and a few others fit for Connacht final.

Hard luck to Sligo but you had us seriously sweating at half time. Best of luck in next round.

Mano

Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 08:48:08 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan

I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..

What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?

The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.

All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper?  Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.

Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.

Not too many neutrals support poor Ros. Something about being so handsome.
I do have some Roscommon heritage which might explain it.

INDIANA

Quote from: weareros on June 12, 2016, 08:49:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on June 12, 2016, 07:52:14 PM
The more I see of Roscommon the more it baffles me that they are considered this sleeping giant.

Marginally above average is how I would describe them.

Ah now who calls us a sleeping giant. We are one of the most sparsely populated counties in Ireland. If Dublin had our pick and resources I can safely say you'd have won sweet feck all in last 150 years. At least we rise above our station every now and then and will do so again, probably sooner than you think.

A very disjointed performance today with some series flaws exposed again but going into Connacht final with dampened expectations is ideal. However I immensely enjoyed the football we played in second half and delighted to see both Smiths back and pray we'll have Diarmuid and a few others fit for Connacht final.

Hard luck to Sligo but you had us seriously sweating at half time. Best of luck in next round.

Dublin have nothing to do with it. If you were playing Cavan I think they'd beat you

weareros

Quote from: INDIANA on June 12, 2016, 08:58:33 PM
Quote from: weareros on June 12, 2016, 08:49:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on June 12, 2016, 07:52:14 PM
The more I see of Roscommon the more it baffles me that they are considered this sleeping giant.

Marginally above average is how I would describe them.

Ah now who calls us a sleeping giant. We are one of the most sparsely populated counties in Ireland. If Dublin had our pick and resources I can safely say you'd have won sweet feck all in last 150 years. At least we rise above our station every now and then and will do so again, probably sooner than you think.

A very disjointed performance today with some series flaws exposed again but going into Connacht final with dampened expectations is ideal. However I immensely enjoyed the football we played in second half and delighted to see both Smiths back and pray we'll have Diarmuid and a few others fit for Connacht final.

Hard luck to Sligo but you had us seriously sweating at half time. Best of luck in next round.

Dublin have nothing to do with it. If you were playing Cavan I think they'd beat you

Well we met in championship for last two years after demoralising defeats and we won handy enough. No doubt they have improved and I hope they win Ulster.

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: INDIANA on June 12, 2016, 07:52:14 PM
The more I see of Roscommon the more it baffles me that they are considered this sleeping giant.

Marginally above average is how I would describe them.
Roscommon has the same population as Swords


They're doing ok considering the pick they have

sligoman

Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan

I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..

What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?

The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.

All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper?  Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.

Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.

I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.

We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.

When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.

If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.

I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.

Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?

Syferus

Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 09:11:29 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan

I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..

What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?

The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.

All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper?  Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.

Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.

I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.

We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.

When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.

If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.

I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.

Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?

We have some good midfielders that just aren't fit right now. Sligo have none, fit or not.

sligoman

Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 09:14:23 PM
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 09:11:29 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan

I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..

What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?

The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.

All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper?  Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.

Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.

I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.

We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.

When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.

If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.

I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.

Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?

We have some good midfielders that just aren't fit right now. Sligo have none, fit or not.

Do you?