Jamie Clarke,the GAA's answer to Stephen Ireland?

[imtommygunn]

Maybe they should just crown the dublin champions ai winners at the same time and save us all the bother.

[No wides]

Feck this has taken a bizarre twist.
Surely Jamie himself proves the point that Cross wouldn't match up to county level since he is a genuis at club level but then cant cut it at inter-county, Mossey Quinn the case in point for Vincents

Cross play football, Armagh defend even when behind.

[Applesisapples]

Hang on now. I'm a big fan of club teams, but to suggest that a Crossmaglen team, ramping up for an All Ireland Club Semi Final, beating a Kildare team getting ready to start the O'Byrne Cup, indicates that they'd beat most county teams is stretching it.

With the best will in the world, the best club teams in the country would be beaten by 25 county teams at least, if they met when both were mid season.

They still might beat Offaly mind you

Mind you its one of those ones hard to disprove. I still think Cross have more county standard players than the current Armagh squad!

This type of gibberish amply illustrates the mentality that creates the cultural vacuum which those Cross lads that have the potential to play county football have to be brave enough to push through. It's an unnecessary, poisonous culture that damages our county unfortunately. Cross and every other club's players should be proud enough Armagh men to put themselves in harms way to see if they can make it for the county to be able to put their best foot forward.

I second that. Cross deserve all the credit in the world for their achievements, but non-Crossmaglen (Armagh clubmen) people worshipping at the Cross altar and basking in some sort of reflected glory sickens my hole and it really isn't good for the County team.

I am not from Cross nor am I affiliated with any club. I don't seek to bask in any reflected glory and am quite happy to see any Armagh club do well. Sickening your hole is a bonus though. To get back to the point I was originally making, IMO Jamie Clarke owes nothing to anyone, and if you read Benny Tierney, Joe Brolly and others it would seem clear that the work load put onto County players in general and Armagh players in particular is such that many players don't believe it is worth it.

[Owenmoresider]

Hang on now. I'm a big fan of club teams, but to suggest that a Crossmaglen team, ramping up for an All Ireland Club Semi Final, beating a Kildare team getting ready to start the O'Byrne Cup, indicates that they'd beat most county teams is stretching it.

With the best will in the world, the best club teams in the country would be beaten by 25 county teams at least, if they met when both were mid season.

They still might beat Offaly mind you

Mind you its one of those ones hard to disprove. I still think Cross have more county standard players than the current Armagh squad!

This type of gibberish amply illustrates the mentality that creates the cultural vacuum which those Cross lads that have the potential to play county football have to be brave enough to push through. It's an unnecessary, poisonous culture that damages our county unfortunately. Cross and every other club's players should be proud enough Armagh men to put themselves in harms way to see if they can make it for the county to be able to put their best foot forward.

I second that. Cross deserve all the credit in the world for their achievements, but non-Crossmaglen (Armagh clubmen) people worshipping at the Cross altar and basking in some sort of reflected glory sickens my hole and it really isn't good for the County team.

Current Vincent's team would beat 15 county teams at least. And Cross too.

Current Vincent's team isn't in the last four

3 of the last 4 don't play in the best county championship in Ireland

Yeah, the Tipp football championship is as hard to win as it gets.

[naka]

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tbf most Armagh clubmen respect Cross but have no interest in their glory, they are more interested in pushing their own clubs
what cross do is great but am more interested in my own club

[AZOffaly]

Hang on now. I'm a big fan of club teams, but to suggest that a Crossmaglen team, ramping up for an All Ireland Club Semi Final, beating a Kildare team getting ready to start the O'Byrne Cup, indicates that they'd beat most county teams is stretching it.

With the best will in the world, the best club teams in the country would be beaten by 25 county teams at least, if they met when both were mid season.

They still might beat Offaly mind you

Mind you its one of those ones hard to disprove. I still think Cross have more county standard players than the current Armagh squad!

This type of gibberish amply illustrates the mentality that creates the cultural vacuum which those Cross lads that have the potential to play county football have to be brave enough to push through. It's an unnecessary, poisonous culture that damages our county unfortunately. Cross and every other club's players should be proud enough Armagh men to put themselves in harms way to see if they can make it for the county to be able to put their best foot forward.

I second that. Cross deserve all the credit in the world for their achievements, but non-Crossmaglen (Armagh clubmen) people worshipping at the Cross altar and basking in some sort of reflected glory sickens my hole and it really isn't good for the County team.

Current Vincent's team would beat 15 county teams at least. And Cross too.

Current Vincent's team isn't in the last four

3 of the last 4 don't play in the best county championship in Ireland

Yeah, the Tipp football championship is as hard to win as it gets.

It is, in that it's sometimes not even finished in time

[T Fearon]

As I say,so starved of success were we in Armagh,that the whole county flocked behind Cross in 1997,but the novelty has worn off.

[seafoid]

As I say,so starved of success were we in Armagh,that the whole county flocked behind Cross in 1997,but the novelty has worn off.

Ni bheidh a leitheid aris ann i measc na daoine a itheann na h ulla

[brokencrossbar1]

As I say,so starved of success were we in Armagh,that the whole county flocked behind Cross in 1997,but the novelty has worn off.

The novelty of following a winning team?  Well,  thankfully that hasn't happened in Cross!!  If we win the AI this year,  and it will be very tough,  then I think that might set up a few years of success. 

BTW the game is fixed for Brefnii Park on Sat 13th Feb at 6.15.  Live on TG4, extra time if necessary.

[INDIANA]

3 of the last 4 don't play in the best county championship in Ireland

Probably because they live in proper counties, not ones the size of a province.

Not up to it is the answer. Cross would be lucky to have annexed 10 county championships if playing in Dublin. Our seniors hockeyed them last year with half a team. They had one great club side but the current one is average and wouldn't win the Dublin Championship in my opinion.

[JoG2]

Hang on now. I'm a big fan of club teams, but to suggest that a Crossmaglen team, ramping up for an All Ireland Club Semi Final, beating a Kildare team getting ready to start the O'Byrne Cup, indicates that they'd beat most county teams is stretching it.

With the best will in the world, the best club teams in the country would be beaten by 25 county teams at least, if they met when both were mid season.

They still might beat Offaly mind you

Mind you its one of those ones hard to disprove. I still think Cross have more county standard players than the current Armagh squad!

This type of gibberish amply illustrates the mentality that creates the cultural vacuum which those Cross lads that have the potential to play county football have to be brave enough to push through. It's an unnecessary, poisonous culture that damages our county unfortunately. Cross and every other club's players should be proud enough Armagh men to put themselves in harms way to see if they can make it for the county to be able to put their best foot forward.

I second that. Cross deserve all the credit in the world for their achievements, but non-Crossmaglen (Armagh clubmen) people worshipping at the Cross altar and basking in some sort of reflected glory sickens my hole and it really isn't good for the County team.

Current Vincent's team would beat 15 county teams at least. And Cross too.

Yet can't quite cut the mustard at the business end of the club championship these last couple of years,  and the years before their last victory.  Mental fatigue,  soft underbelly...? 3 Dub winners in the last 20 years (with clubs littered with big name players from around the country on the payroll)  and the size of the place!  Awful return.  I'd keep my counsel if I were a Dub

[imtommygunn]

Not to mention the number of "blow ins" some of the club teams have

[brokencrossbar1]

Hang on now. I'm a big fan of club teams, but to suggest that a Crossmaglen team, ramping up for an All Ireland Club Semi Final, beating a Kildare team getting ready to start the O'Byrne Cup, indicates that they'd beat most county teams is stretching it.

With the best will in the world, the best club teams in the country would be beaten by 25 county teams at least, if they met when both were mid season.

They still might beat Offaly mind you

Mind you its one of those ones hard to disprove. I still think Cross have more county standard players than the current Armagh squad!

This type of gibberish amply illustrates the mentality that creates the cultural vacuum which those Cross lads that have the potential to play county football have to be brave enough to push through. It's an unnecessary, poisonous culture that damages our county unfortunately. Cross and every other club's players should be proud enough Armagh men to put themselves in harms way to see if they can make it for the county to be able to put their best foot forward.

I second that. Cross deserve all the credit in the world for their achievements, but non-Crossmaglen (Armagh clubmen) people worshipping at the Cross altar and basking in some sort of reflected glory sickens my hole and it really isn't good for the County team.

Current Vincent's team would beat 15 county teams at least. And Cross too.

Yet can't quite cut the mustard at the business end of the club championship these last couple of years,  and the years before their last victory.  Mental fatigue,  soft underbelly...? 3 Dub winners in the last 20 years (with clubs littered with big name players from around the country on the payroll)  and the size of the place!  Awful return.  I'd keep my counsel if I were a Dub

Keep his counsel???  You are mad, Indiana is the all knowing Oracle!  Dublin club football has 2 clubs of not, Vincents and Kilmacud. They have the odd break through team but they don't sustain it. St Brigids and Ballyboden are good but time will tell if Boden push on. Many people have said we wouldn't win as many titles on other counties but that's a pointless argument. We are where we are and when push comes to shove we have faired ok when we get out of Armagh.

[BennyHarp]

3 of the last 4 don't play in the best county championship in Ireland

Probably because they live in proper counties, not ones the size of a province.

Not up to it is the answer. Cross would be lucky to have annexed 10 county championships if playing in Dublin. Our seniors hockeyed them last year with half a team. They had one great club side but the current one is average and wouldn't win the Dublin Championship in my opinion.

And the Dublin county team wouldn't have won half as many provincial titles in the past two decades if they were playing in Ulster, pointless argument as per usual where fluff is passed off as fact!

[T Fearon]

Club sides aren't the priority in the likes of Kerry or Dublin or Tyrone even.County teams are