AISF Mayo v Dublin

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Mayo v Dublin Replay

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vallankumous

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990

Saying pundits confuse the issue then following it up by making out some refs would have sent Cooper off while he would have issued a yellow because he knows Cooper isn't helpful.

Tubberman

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990

How he can say the following amazes me, but maybe it shouldn't given it's Pat McEneaney:

QuoteYes, it was borderline. It was a bit rash. Knowing Jonny Cooper, he's not that type of player. I'd say if I was refereeing the game myself, it would be still be just yellow.

It was not "a bit rash". It was dangerous, it was not in any way an attempt to tackle or play the ball - it was malicious.
And it shouldn't matter if he knows Cooper or not - what the hell relevance has that!!
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

laoislad

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:33:14 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 31, 2015, 07:20:18 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:10:53 PM
If retrospective punishments are to be handed out then the first transgression that must be addressed is the most serious assault that occurred in the game: the dangerous assault on Rory O'Carroll.

O'Carroll was the only player who was seriously injured during the game and it was not accidental.

There cannot be any retrospective punishments without this incident being included.

Donal Vaughan got injured also. Does all players picking up an injury now have to be investigated? if there was no injury would there be an issue?


Are you serious? Vaughan injured himself while attempting a reckless tackle. O'Carroll was the victim of a very dirty assault which must be punished.
How many stitches did he get again?
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

Jell 0 Biafra

Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 07:56:20 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990

How he can say the following amazes me, but maybe it shouldn't given it's Pat McEneaney:

QuoteYes, it was borderline. It was a bit rash. Knowing Jonny Cooper, he's not that type of player. I'd say if I was refereeing the game myself, it would be still be just yellow.

It was not "a bit rash". It was dangerous, it was not in any way an attempt to tackle or play the ball - it was malicious.
And it shouldn't matter if he knows Cooper or not - what the hell relevance has that!!

Agreed.  Would put O' Connor's forearm smash on O' Carroll in exactly the same category.

finbar o tool

if the big knobs of the GAA were serious about sorting out discipline they could introduce a video ref the same as rugby, even if its only for games in Croker to start off with. i don't think many would mind getting home a few minutes later if it meant stopping the game, having a video ref looking at a replay, at different angles and acting accordingly.
it could also be used for other decisions that the ref is not sure about. its not f**king rocket science and it needs to happen!
An amateur requires a personal commitment that money cannot buy

mikehunt

Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 07:53:46 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue hlink=topic=26140.msg1508958#msg1508958 date=1441046908
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990

Everyone will be apologising now to philly, starting with the lads on this site then Aiden o Shea will come out to the media tomorrow and apologise if imagine.

That your last word on this?

IolarCoisCuain

Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 07:37:41 PM
Yeah I wasnt lieing, I'm not Aidan O Shea, thanks for backing up my point.

That's 'lying,' not 'lieing.' You're welcome.

yellowcard

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990

Very interesting perspective. I don't think McMahon deserves a ban as there is no evidence of any contact even if there was a forward head movement. McMahons battle with O' Se was the most intriguing of the match and no quarter was asked or given. McMahon will feel vindicated for his 'in your face' antics as he held O'Se scoreless and limited his effectiveness. I would disagree with McEnaney on Cooper though. He is more or less saying no that he will decide on the card colour based on the player involved as opposed to the offence committed. That is blatantly unfair.

Il Bomber Destro

Cooper was responsible for this bit of trampish behaviour only two games ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33APZczZA54

23 mins 55 seconds in

Collapses with his knee into Heslin's chest while he is prone on the ground. Just imagine the outrage if Tyrone had a pair of corner backs like Cooper and McMahon playing for them.


rashCharacter

It doesn't really matter if he made contact or not.
Striking or attempting to strike with the head is a category 4 offence

BennyHarp

#1375
Big boost for Mayo ahead of the replay.

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=243457
That was never a square ball!!

squire_in_navy_slacks

Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 07:56:20 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990

How he can say the following amazes me, but maybe it shouldn't given it's Pat McEneaney:

QuoteYes, it was borderline. It was a bit rash. Knowing Jonny Cooper, he's not that type of player. I'd say if I was refereeing the game myself, it would be still be just yellow.

It was not "a bit rash". It was dangerous, it was not in any way an attempt to tackle or play the ball - it was malicious.
And it shouldn't matter if he knows Cooper or not - what the hell relevance has that!!

This new gay lord slow mo cam stuff makes any challenge look like murder  ::)

squire_in_navy_slacks

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 31, 2015, 08:14:57 PM
Cooper was responsible for this bit of trampish behaviour only two games ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33APZczZA54

23 mins 55 seconds in

Collapses with his knee into Heslin's chest while he is prone on the ground. Just imagine the outrage if Tyrone had a pair of corner backs like Cooper and McMahon playing for them.

I think being assaulted and stabbed by a mayo man has brought out a mean streak in Cooper

Rodman

Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 07:53:46 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990

Everyone will be apologising now to philly, starting with the lads on this site then Aiden o Shea will come out to the media tomorrow and apologise if imagine.

Ok, it must he true then if Pat says so. Case closed. Sure none of us seen the incidents ourselves 100 times. Disappointed in Pat to be honest on his comments on the Cooper incident.

omaghjoe

Thats interesting about O'Sullivan's non black card. It wasnt one  because he didnt pull him to the ground?

Fair enough its not the referees fault they only implement the rules.

But the rules are wrong if thats the case, whether he pulled him to the ground or yanked him back while not making an attempt to play the ball, the result and intent are the same. Completely illogical differentiating in them this way.

But then the Black Card was passed in a wave of reactionary hysteria so hardly surprising it wasnt thought through.