Anti Catholicism prevalent in Ireland,but...

[muppet]

My views on paedophilia are clear and consistent,it and its perpetrators are totally repugnant.Please imdicate where I have demonstrated an alternative view to this.

Your constant downplaying of the Church's role as merely 'mishandling' clearly represents your views on the pedophile priests. You are constantly portraying the abusers as a distraction or an irritant that allows a few cranks to criticise the Church. You ignore the monumental failures of people like Brady to protect the children. You defend people like Ratzinger who orchestrated the shameful response of the Church.

But you see it as being all about cranks and anti-Catholics. You don't see the victims. You don't even show a milligram of sympathy for the families, in fact quite the opposite, you blame them. You think the Church is the victim and your reward for this loyalty you believe will be, no about, eternal salvation.

[J70]

Mishandling of child abuse does not in any way equate with facilitation of same.

At your blindness,  not the appalling behaviour of the priests and the church hierarchy who facilitated them. How many parishes and kids did the likes of Brendan Smyth impact over the years?

[AZOffaly]

From the Oxford English Dictionary

Facilitate
VERB

[WITH OBJECT]
Make (an action or process) easy or easier:


SYNONYMS
make easy/easier, ease, make possible, make smooth/smoother, smooth, smooth the path of, smooth the way for, clear the way for, open the door for;
enable, assist, help, help along, aid, oil, oil the wheels of, lubricate, expedite, speed up, accelerate, forward, advance, promote, further, encourage;



So what part of moving Brendan Smyth from parish to parish without in any way taking him away from kids did *not* facilitate his abuse of said children? I believe that the Church's actions directly facilitated the abuse of many children. Once they knew they had this problem on their hands they should have ensured these priests never saw another child again, and instead were handed over to the state authorities, rather than 'canon' law.

[T Fearon]

I agree.We can all look back and say "We should have done".This is what the modern church does immediately upon receipt of an allegation against any priest.

[Eamonnca1]

This thread is like having your leg humped by a dog.

[Myles Na G.]

This thread is like having your leg humped by a dog.

[muppet]

This thread is like having your leg humped by a dog.

We'll have to take your word for it. 

[Eamonnca1]

Seriously. Is there any stopping him?

[Eamonnca1]

[muppet]

Tony isn't a troll. A couple of the new Kerry posters are very poor trolls, probably kids, but Tony isn't a troll.

[seafoid]

Tony is a warning to kids of the dangers of crossword abuse

[LCohen]

It disproves the myth that post death we're simply worm food.

No it does not. These people did not die. Well not at the time anyway. The scientific lesson here is around the phases in shut down of the brain and how far through those phase humans still have the potential to recover.

[LCohen]

In the same way there may or may not be a God.

All that time you save not not doing the detail in the bible could be spent reading Bertrand Russell' flying teapot thesis.

The may or may not be a god but the probabilities are not equal and there is no positive reason to suggest there is a god.

[LCohen]

You don't need to know anything more than the commandments and gospels.Avoidance of sin and acceptance of the Saviour.On judgement day there will be no Bible Quizzes.

So the non christians are bucked then for their false gods

The big vetting process at the pearly gates will focus on the graven image lark, the use of god's name, turning the tv (or gathering sticks) on an saturday or is it a sunday and these crucial matters.

There will be no bible quiz on judgement day. There will be no judgement day

[LCohen]

Mishandling of child abuse does not in any way equate with facilitation of same.

If the "mishandling" leaves the perpetrator with victims or potential new victims then in what way is it not facilitating abuse?