Down Club Hurling & Football

supersub · June 07, 2011, 04:40:13 PM

Yes the club would love to have him playing for the seniors (he does play minor). It would be more of a personal reason rather than anyone in the club which is stopping him from doing so.

marsbarkid · June 07, 2011, 06:02:06 PM

Does anyone know if there's any EDRFL matches this Sunday evening? + when the Dromara v St.Michaels RFC replay is being played? Thanks.

NedFlanders · June 07, 2011, 08:13:59 PM

Quote from: Joe Umbrella (hey) on June 07, 2011, 01:33:09 PM
Quote from: NedFlanders on June 06, 2011, 05:14:45 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on June 06, 2011, 01:40:09 PM
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Ronan Sexton and Sean Murdock are no longer on the panel, Aidan Carr I cant confirm, maybe somebody else can?

Agree with those that dont agree with the decision, not fair on the lad or those that are already on the panel. A huge step up, it took benny a bit of time to make an impact and he had played a bit of senior club football before playing for the county i think. ( stand by to be corrected on that )

Mooney is an exceptional talent, is he as good as coulter was at that age? I dont no, does he have the same impact on games that coulter did? I dont no, is he ready for intercounty senior football, no imo.

The other point is that it smacks of short term thinking. He is going to be there next year so unless they think he can come in and make an impact immediately, what is the point?

John Clarke, Mickey Magee and Kevin Anderson are also no nonger members of the squad im led to believe.

Can hardly balm J Clarke, the way he has been treated is a joke!

What way has he been treated? Surely you are not referring to him being subsitituted against Armagh?

Theres no doubt that John Clarke is a fine footballer and that he has all the skills required for playng with the county but maybe he does not have the mentality for the big games? Too often he goes missing and just doe'nt produce the goods. I was very suprised he started against Armagh given the displays of Murtagh and Lavery in the league game. IMO he is still worth his place in the panel but just not the starting 15 at the minute given the options in the forward line.

Meaning that he was one of our better player against Mayo in the league, scoring 1-1, then dosent get a minute of football and is thrown into a championship game expecting to play a blinder, thats my point!

waitingforsam · June 08, 2011, 09:25:34 AM

Sorry to read the article on the back to todays irish news.

Best of luck John, you served the county well.

The armchair critics on here will have to take a good look in the mirror.

pauly2 · June 08, 2011, 09:41:55 AM

Thats two newspaper articles in two days about the "faceless" critics on the discussion boards who are doing all the harm. Looking back through the history of this board will show that last september, august, july when the county were building up a head of steam - there was nothing but positivity and everyone was full of praise for certain individuals. They werent writing in the papers thanking us - no - they were lapping up the praise and watching their own heads getting bigger by the day. Now the shit hits the fan and - as always - we express our opinion - and they throw their toys outta the pram. Grow up county boys. If you are good enough to take the praise - then take the constructive criticism.

waitingforsam · June 08, 2011, 09:51:50 AM

Quote from: pauly2 on June 08, 2011, 09:41:55 AM
Thats two newspaper articles in two days about the "faceless" critics on the discussion boards who are doing all the harm. Looking back through the history of this board will show that last september, august, july when the county were building up a head of steam - there was nothing but positivity and everyone was full of praise for certain individuals. They werent writing in the papers thanking us - no - they were lapping up the praise and watching their own heads getting bigger by the day. Now the shit hits the fan and - as always - we express our opinion - and they throw their toys outta the pram. Grow up county boys. If you are good enough to take the praise - then take the constructive criticism.

I think the term constructive criticism may be up for debate in this instance. Most of us get carried away with what we type on the spur of the moment comments, some are very well articulated.

There is constructive & destructive criticism.

Its James' job to give constructive, & its seems that this site has taken on the role - in some cases - of destructive.

Its a discussion board & we can all air our "views", but how far do we push the boat out before we fall into the band of destructive criticism . . . .

Mirror mirror on the wall.

PAULD123 · June 08, 2011, 10:06:40 AM

Quote from: pauly2 on June 08, 2011, 09:41:55 AM
Thats two newspaper articles in two days about the "faceless" critics on the discussion boards who are doing all the harm. Looking back through the history of this board will show that last september, august, july when the county were building up a head of steam - there was nothing but positivity and everyone was full of praise for certain individuals. They werent writing in the papers thanking us - no - they were lapping up the praise and watching their own heads getting bigger by the day. Now the shit hits the fan and - as always - we express our opinion - and they throw their toys outta the pram. Grow up county boys. If you are good enough to take the praise - then take the constructive criticism.

Sorry I didn't read the article you are talking about. I am totally confused by your comment. Did John Clarke blame the discussion boards for his decision to quit? That's what it sounds like you are saying

redandblackareback · June 08, 2011, 10:27:22 AM

Quote from: pauly2 on June 08, 2011, 09:41:55 AM
Thats two newspaper articles in two days about the "faceless" critics on the discussion boards who are doing all the harm. Looking back through the history of this board will show that last september, august, july when the county were building up a head of steam - there was nothing but positivity and everyone was full of praise for certain individuals. They werent writing in the papers thanking us - no - they were lapping up the praise and watching their own heads getting bigger by the day. Now the shit hits the fan and - as always - we express our opinion - and they throw their toys outta the pram. Grow up county boys. If you are good enough to take the praise - then take the constructive criticism.

You certainly werent on praising anyone p***k,

Your a complete tool

waitingforsam · June 08, 2011, 10:30:33 AM

Quote from: redandblackareback on June 08, 2011, 10:27:22 AM
Quote from: pauly2 on June 08, 2011, 09:41:55 AM
Thats two newspaper articles in two days about the "faceless" critics on the discussion boards who are doing all the harm. Looking back through the history of this board will show that last september, august, july when the county were building up a head of steam - there was nothing but positivity and everyone was full of praise for certain individuals. They werent writing in the papers thanking us - no - they were lapping up the praise and watching their own heads getting bigger by the day. Now the shit hits the fan and - as always - we express our opinion - and they throw their toys outta the pram. Grow up county boys. If you are good enough to take the praise - then take the constructive criticism.

You certainly werent on praising anyone p***k,

Your a complete tool

+1

redandblack94 · June 08, 2011, 11:11:17 AM

I think anyone who posts comments on this forum about "fellow clubmen" should be ashamed of themselves.If someone doesnt want to play for a senior team accept it and move on!

NP 76 · June 08, 2011, 11:37:31 AM

Good luck to John always tried his best and a complete gentleman . Could do what Murtagh did and come back later in the year all the best

pauly2 · June 08, 2011, 12:53:47 PM

Quote from: redandblackareback on June 08, 2011, 10:27:22 AM
Quote from: pauly2 on June 08, 2011, 09:41:55 AM
Thats two newspaper articles in two days about the "faceless" critics on the discussion boards who are doing all the harm. Looking back through the history of this board will show that last september, august, july when the county were building up a head of steam - there was nothing but positivity and everyone was full of praise for certain individuals. They werent writing in the papers thanking us - no - they were lapping up the praise and watching their own heads getting bigger by the day. Now the shit hits the fan and - as always - we express our opinion - and they throw their toys outta the pram. Grow up county boys. If you are good enough to take the praise - then take the constructive criticism.

You certainly werent on praising anyone p***k,

Your a complete tool

Your someone til talk alright and redandblackareback is in the same category. Two peas in the same runt pod.

No he didnt say that was his main reason for retiring but he mentioned these discussion boards as did benny yesterday. Yes we are in some cases constructive and in some cases destructive - but its all for the love of the game. we say what we see out ther - maybe James should do likewise.

Brick Tamlin · June 08, 2011, 01:33:20 PM

Schools must be finishing up with some of the talk on here. Gabshite season.

On the retirement of John Clarke, he owes nothing to the supporters of Down.
For a lad who has been a county mainstay for the guts of 11 years he has represented not only his county but also his club and family with great aplomb and i for one would applaud and appreciate his efforts down through the years.

There was a time when we were in the doldrums for a few seasons and and John Clarke was the go-to man who was shifted and shunted about the team to fill gaps, whether it was playing at full back, corner back, wing back or anywhere in the forward line he always did the business, his effort and comittment and quality could never be questioned.

From a young age John oozed class and ye could tell he would be an excellent intercounty senior. He was one of those players who had a proper head on his shoulders, had the skills and temperment to play and excel at the highest level. Its sad that John has decided to call it a day for whatever reasons, i guess now his club will fully benefit and he will continue to destroy full-backs at club level. not an obituary by any means, he may be back in the red and black at some stage.

NedFlanders · June 08, 2011, 03:16:44 PM

John Clarke Retires - For All You Clowns Out There I Hope Use Are Happy!
Especially That Pauly2, You Are A True and Utter G**S****

PAULD123 · June 08, 2011, 04:14:39 PM

Does anyone know why John has really quit?

There is no way it is over fan criticism, he and all the Down players received a lot more in years gone past than they do now.

Has he got other family/work commitments that make it difficult to be part of the squad?

Perhaps he just feels that at 28 if he is slipping out of the first team and he doesn't want to fight to get back in. If that is the case then I don't blame him, but it is a pity because he could have been a useful squad member. At least it makes things a bit clearer that if fit then out starting six will probably be McGinn-Poland-Hughes, McComiskey-Coulter-Clarke, with first choice reserve being Murtagh then Laverty.