All-Ireland Minor Football Championship 2013

[moysider]

Great to see Mayo winning an All Ireland in Croke Park - a bit of a balls that it's overshadowed by the loss in the senior final though.

Have just watched the match again and Tyrone will feel they left this one behind them - when they brought it back to 3, they had chances to close it further and missed them. Similar to the senior game, the team who were able to take their scores better won the game.

Was just looking back to the 2008 / 09 minor teams and five from each team are in or around the panel although only three started last Sunday - Hennelly, AOS & COC. It will be interesting to see how many of the 2013 crop can make it....

Mayo - R Hennelly; D Dolan, K Keane, J Broderick; S McHale, E Reilly, S Nally (0-1); J Cafferty, G McDonagh; C Freeman (0-4), A O'Shea (0-2), R Geraghty (0-1); K Charlton, A Walsh (0-4, 3f), A Corduff (0-1). Subs - D Gavin (0-1) for Charlton (39), D O'Hara for Geraghty (49).

Mayo: Michael Schlingermann; David Gavin, Keith Rogers, Michael Walsh; Ciaran Charlton, Shane McDermott, Caolan Crowe; Danny Kirby, Aidan Walsh (0-6); Andrew Farrell, Darren Coen (0-1), Fergal Durkan; Daryl Herbert, Cillian O'Connor (2-0), Alex Corduff (0-1). Subs: Ian Costello, Jack McDonnell, John Carney (0-1), Michael McCormack

Not a bad return.

Hard to know with current crop. We might get a couple of seniors.
Stephen Coen looks the most likely. I think Hall and Plunkett maybe if they get the size.
Cunniffe and Cian Hanley have another year at minor and both looked very good already this year.

Eh? From a Mayo perspective no stone should be left unturned trying to develop Conroy (probably the most complete of the three FFs), Doherty (who is like a blinkered horse with the ball in hand, but obviously a very talented scorer) and Irwin who has the size and ability to develop into a senior. The other lads baring maybe Hanley would be coming into positions with good depth already.

I m not following you??

Mayo need FFs, not backs. A wing-forward like Hanley would be nice, but secondary to a lad like Conroy in terms of importance. Lads like Hall and Coen may make the cut but they're not at positions where Mayo are crying out for help or even depth. I think Mayo's forwards carried a team that routinely was poor in the middle and a little stand-offish at back. They are where the big potential lies in this Mayo team so it was bizarre you wouldn't mention any of the FFs.

That Irish Times article is probably the poorest piece of GAA  journalism I have ever seen, and that is saying something.
Gavin Cummiskey should be ashamed of himself.
If some of the windup merchants on a forum like this had written it it could have been laughed off. Seriously disrespectful to Mayo as well as Tyrone. Mayo minors were excellent on Sunday and deserved their win.
Tyrone have overachieved with a young team and still could have won the game on Sunday with a bit of luck and a few breaks going their way.
Both teams deserve credit rather than having this rubbish published in a national newspaper.
This years minor final was a much better game in terms of both entertainment and quality of football than the really poor, negative, boring minor final served up last year by Dublin and Meath. I nearly fell asleep in Croke Park during it. I can't remember any outcry after that game?
The media campaign against Tyrone has gone too far now and needs to stop.

Trying to call other minor teams negative after Tyrone's antics this year is a little too rich for human blood. The Kildare robots might be able to handle it, though.

Not bizarre at all Sy. it s just that I ve seen it all before. If there is anything Mayo produce it s knacky minor corner forwards. Hope these lads go back to Club, College and U21s and make it as senior. Not dismissing them at all. And I m not going to scrutinise 17 yr olds on here. 

But you have to factor in that some of the lads that were playing against our forwards will never play senior. Some may not even play senior club. Some of the Mayo minor teams listed above that played in AI finals dont even play any more. That s the reality. You know that when Ros won minor in 06 that a lot of fans would have anticipated that bunch to mature into serious  senior players that would be back in Croke Park as a serious team. But that is not the way it works. As we ve found out often enough it takes a rare enough player to be able to compete when it comes to last 8 and AI final day is a different galaxy.

We've got plenty from that team and there's more to come from a lot of those lads. This is the lazy punditry that's applied to them a lot by outsiders but if the 2006 Mayo U21s walked into a team in free-fall where would they be? Certainly not competing in back-to-back AI finals.

Free-fall doesn't mean a couple championship shocks to minnows, it means the team panel collapsing, once-in-a-lifetime players retiring with years left on their careers, management openly attacking supporters and vice versa. We ended up in D4 heading into the 2010 championship.

Mayo lost to Sligo and Longford in 2010. Big friggin' deal. You've been hanging in D1 for donkey's years. You'd made AI finals four times in the previous decade or so. We didn't have those luxuries so of course progress is going to be judged by a very different graph. A lot of those 2006 players have made serious strides, particularly under Fergie and again this year under Evans. They certainly have not been a failure and their application and dedication has been a clear break from the tumultuous decade of mis-adventures that had preceded them. Roscommon supporters were far more circumspect about the speed progress was likely to happen at than outsiders were. The fooling around last season was another unnecessary set-back.

For Mayo they've got a team coming off two AI finals, two league semis and one league final to integrate players like Adam Gallagher, Conroy, Irwin or Hanley into. You have the luxury of letting the existing team help carry the youngsters on their first few steps. Our lads had no such luck.

Haven' t read the rest but that is bullshit Sy. In 2006 young Mayo players came into a crap management - and that 4 years of crap has possibly cost us an AI. Top players like Boyle and Parsons were destroyed. Players with a bit of balls like Harte were treated like shite. Cop yerself on. Now I ll read the rest of your post.

[Syferus]

Great to see Mayo winning an All Ireland in Croke Park - a bit of a balls that it's overshadowed by the loss in the senior final though.

Have just watched the match again and Tyrone will feel they left this one behind them - when they brought it back to 3, they had chances to close it further and missed them. Similar to the senior game, the team who were able to take their scores better won the game.

Was just looking back to the 2008 / 09 minor teams and five from each team are in or around the panel although only three started last Sunday - Hennelly, AOS & COC. It will be interesting to see how many of the 2013 crop can make it....

Mayo - R Hennelly; D Dolan, K Keane, J Broderick; S McHale, E Reilly, S Nally (0-1); J Cafferty, G McDonagh; C Freeman (0-4), A O'Shea (0-2), R Geraghty (0-1); K Charlton, A Walsh (0-4, 3f), A Corduff (0-1). Subs - D Gavin (0-1) for Charlton (39), D O'Hara for Geraghty (49).

Mayo: Michael Schlingermann; David Gavin, Keith Rogers, Michael Walsh; Ciaran Charlton, Shane McDermott, Caolan Crowe; Danny Kirby, Aidan Walsh (0-6); Andrew Farrell, Darren Coen (0-1), Fergal Durkan; Daryl Herbert, Cillian O'Connor (2-0), Alex Corduff (0-1). Subs: Ian Costello, Jack McDonnell, John Carney (0-1), Michael McCormack

Not a bad return.

Hard to know with current crop. We might get a couple of seniors.
Stephen Coen looks the most likely. I think Hall and Plunkett maybe if they get the size.
Cunniffe and Cian Hanley have another year at minor and both looked very good already this year.

Eh? From a Mayo perspective no stone should be left unturned trying to develop Conroy (probably the most complete of the three FFs), Doherty (who is like a blinkered horse with the ball in hand, but obviously a very talented scorer) and Irwin who has the size and ability to develop into a senior. The other lads baring maybe Hanley would be coming into positions with good depth already.

I m not following you??

Mayo need FFs, not backs. A wing-forward like Hanley would be nice, but secondary to a lad like Conroy in terms of importance. Lads like Hall and Coen may make the cut but they're not at positions where Mayo are crying out for help or even depth. I think Mayo's forwards carried a team that routinely was poor in the middle and a little stand-offish at back. They are where the big potential lies in this Mayo team so it was bizarre you wouldn't mention any of the FFs.

That Irish Times article is probably the poorest piece of GAA  journalism I have ever seen, and that is saying something.
Gavin Cummiskey should be ashamed of himself.
If some of the windup merchants on a forum like this had written it it could have been laughed off. Seriously disrespectful to Mayo as well as Tyrone. Mayo minors were excellent on Sunday and deserved their win.
Tyrone have overachieved with a young team and still could have won the game on Sunday with a bit of luck and a few breaks going their way.
Both teams deserve credit rather than having this rubbish published in a national newspaper.
This years minor final was a much better game in terms of both entertainment and quality of football than the really poor, negative, boring minor final served up last year by Dublin and Meath. I nearly fell asleep in Croke Park during it. I can't remember any outcry after that game?
The media campaign against Tyrone has gone too far now and needs to stop.

Trying to call other minor teams negative after Tyrone's antics this year is a little too rich for human blood. The Kildare robots might be able to handle it, though.

Not bizarre at all Sy. it s just that I ve seen it all before. If there is anything Mayo produce it s knacky minor corner forwards. Hope these lads go back to Club, College and U21s and make it as senior. Not dismissing them at all. And I m not going to scrutinise 17 yr olds on here. 

But you have to factor in that some of the lads that were playing against our forwards will never play senior. Some may not even play senior club. Some of the Mayo minor teams listed above that played in AI finals dont even play any more. That s the reality. You know that when Ros won minor in 06 that a lot of fans would have anticipated that bunch to mature into serious  senior players that would be back in Croke Park as a serious team. But that is not the way it works. As we ve found out often enough it takes a rare enough player to be able to compete when it comes to last 8 and AI final day is a different galaxy.

We've got plenty from that team and there's more to come from a lot of those lads. This is the lazy punditry that's applied to them a lot by outsiders but if the 2006 Mayo U21s walked into a team in free-fall where would they be? Certainly not competing in back-to-back AI finals.

Free-fall doesn't mean a couple championship shocks to minnows, it means the team panel collapsing, once-in-a-lifetime players retiring with years left on their careers, management openly attacking supporters and vice versa. We ended up in D4 heading into the 2010 championship.

Mayo lost to Sligo and Longford in 2010. Big friggin' deal. You've been hanging in D1 for donkey's years. You'd made AI finals four times in the previous decade or so. We didn't have those luxuries so of course progress is going to be judged by a very different graph. A lot of those 2006 players have made serious strides, particularly under Fergie and again this year under Evans. They certainly have not been a failure and their application and dedication has been a clear break from the tumultuous decade of mis-adventures that had preceded them. Roscommon supporters were far more circumspect about the speed progress was likely to happen at than outsiders were. The fooling around last season was another unnecessary set-back.

For Mayo they've got a team coming off two AI finals, two league semis and one league final to integrate players like Adam Gallagher, Conroy, Irwin or Hanley into. You have the luxury of letting the existing team help carry the youngsters on their first few steps. Our lads had no such luck.

Haven' t read the rest but that is bullshit Sy. In 2006 young Mayo players came into a crap management - and that 4 years of crap has possibly cost us an AI. Top players like Boyle and Parsons were destroyed. Players with a bit of balls like Harte were treated like shite. Cop yerself on. Now I ll read the rest of your post.

Crap management or no crap management, what was the general standard of play, funding and expectation in the county? All those crap management teams didn't manage to get ye to drop for D1 once which must be a serious black mark in their quest for crapness.

[moysider]

Great to see Mayo winning an All Ireland in Croke Park - a bit of a balls that it's overshadowed by the loss in the senior final though.

Have just watched the match again and Tyrone will feel they left this one behind them - when they brought it back to 3, they had chances to close it further and missed them. Similar to the senior game, the team who were able to take their scores better won the game.

Was just looking back to the 2008 / 09 minor teams and five from each team are in or around the panel although only three started last Sunday - Hennelly, AOS & COC. It will be interesting to see how many of the 2013 crop can make it....

Mayo - R Hennelly; D Dolan, K Keane, J Broderick; S McHale, E Reilly, S Nally (0-1); J Cafferty, G McDonagh; C Freeman (0-4), A O'Shea (0-2), R Geraghty (0-1); K Charlton, A Walsh (0-4, 3f), A Corduff (0-1). Subs - D Gavin (0-1) for Charlton (39), D O'Hara for Geraghty (49).

Mayo: Michael Schlingermann; David Gavin, Keith Rogers, Michael Walsh; Ciaran Charlton, Shane McDermott, Caolan Crowe; Danny Kirby, Aidan Walsh (0-6); Andrew Farrell, Darren Coen (0-1), Fergal Durkan; Daryl Herbert, Cillian O'Connor (2-0), Alex Corduff (0-1). Subs: Ian Costello, Jack McDonnell, John Carney (0-1), Michael McCormack

Not a bad return.

Hard to know with current crop. We might get a couple of seniors.
Stephen Coen looks the most likely. I think Hall and Plunkett maybe if they get the size.
Cunniffe and Cian Hanley have another year at minor and both looked very good already this year.

Eh? From a Mayo perspective no stone should be left unturned trying to develop Conroy (probably the most complete of the three FFs), Doherty (who is like a blinkered horse with the ball in hand, but obviously a very talented scorer) and Irwin who has the size and ability to develop into a senior. The other lads baring maybe Hanley would be coming into positions with good depth already.

I m not following you??

Mayo need FFs, not backs. A wing-forward like Hanley would be nice, but secondary to a lad like Conroy in terms of importance. Lads like Hall and Coen may make the cut but they're not at positions where Mayo are crying out for help or even depth. I think Mayo's forwards carried a team that routinely was poor in the middle and a little stand-offish at back. They are where the big potential lies in this Mayo team so it was bizarre you wouldn't mention any of the FFs.

That Irish Times article is probably the poorest piece of GAA  journalism I have ever seen, and that is saying something.
Gavin Cummiskey should be ashamed of himself.
If some of the windup merchants on a forum like this had written it it could have been laughed off. Seriously disrespectful to Mayo as well as Tyrone. Mayo minors were excellent on Sunday and deserved their win.
Tyrone have overachieved with a young team and still could have won the game on Sunday with a bit of luck and a few breaks going their way.
Both teams deserve credit rather than having this rubbish published in a national newspaper.
This years minor final was a much better game in terms of both entertainment and quality of football than the really poor, negative, boring minor final served up last year by Dublin and Meath. I nearly fell asleep in Croke Park during it. I can't remember any outcry after that game?
The media campaign against Tyrone has gone too far now and needs to stop.

Trying to call other minor teams negative after Tyrone's antics this year is a little too rich for human blood. The Kildare robots might be able to handle it, though.

Not bizarre at all Sy. it s just that I ve seen it all before. If there is anything Mayo produce it s knacky minor corner forwards. Hope these lads go back to Club, College and U21s and make it as senior. Not dismissing them at all. And I m not going to scrutinise 17 yr olds on here. 

But you have to factor in that some of the lads that were playing against our forwards will never play senior. Some may not even play senior club. Some of the Mayo minor teams listed above that played in AI finals dont even play any more. That s the reality. You know that when Ros won minor in 06 that a lot of fans would have anticipated that bunch to mature into serious  senior players that would be back in Croke Park as a serious team. But that is not the way it works. As we ve found out often enough it takes a rare enough player to be able to compete when it comes to last 8 and AI final day is a different galaxy.

We've got plenty from that team and there's more to come from a lot of those lads. This is the lazy punditry that's applied to them a lot by outsiders but if the 2006 Mayo U21s walked into a team in free-fall where would they be? Certainly not competing in back-to-back AI finals.

Free-fall doesn't mean a couple championship shocks to minnows, it means the team panel collapsing, once-in-a-lifetime players retiring with years left on their careers, management openly attacking supporters and vice versa. We ended up in D4 heading into the 2010 championship.

Mayo lost to Sligo and Longford in 2010. Big friggin' deal. You've been hanging in D1 for donkey's years. You'd made AI finals four times in the previous decade or so. We didn't have those luxuries so of course progress is going to be judged by a very different graph. A lot of those 2006 players have made serious strides, particularly under Fergie and again this year under Evans. They certainly have not been a failure and their application and dedication has been a clear break from the tumultuous decade of mis-adventures that had preceded them. Roscommon supporters were far more circumspect about the speed progress was likely to happen at than outsiders were. The fooling around last season was another unnecessary set-back.

For Mayo they've got a team coming off two AI finals, two league semis and one league final to integrate players like Adam Gallagher, Conroy, Irwin or Hanley into. You have the luxury of letting the existing team help carry the youngsters on their first few steps. Our lads had no such luck.

Now I ve read the rest and I appreciate your grá for your county. But I still don t get your point. Of any county in Connacht, Mayo have the biggest turnover of players. There has been times when there was no bones to hang new players on. Take 96, I dont thing Noel Connelly ever played a Championship match previously but captained the team in 96/97
The possibility of any of the 4 lads you mention above being serious senior players is not great. I remember in 08 neutrals expecting Shane Nalley to be a senior in a year or 2. Doesn t work that way. Better backs like Burke and Walsh didn t even get a jersey the last day and fellas that did were not trusted in that cauldron. Mature players on both sides struggles. different level.

[moysider]

Great to see Mayo winning an All Ireland in Croke Park - a bit of a balls that it's overshadowed by the loss in the senior final though.

Have just watched the match again and Tyrone will feel they left this one behind them - when they brought it back to 3, they had chances to close it further and missed them. Similar to the senior game, the team who were able to take their scores better won the game.

Was just looking back to the 2008 / 09 minor teams and five from each team are in or around the panel although only three started last Sunday - Hennelly, AOS & COC. It will be interesting to see how many of the 2013 crop can make it....

Mayo - R Hennelly; D Dolan, K Keane, J Broderick; S McHale, E Reilly, S Nally (0-1); J Cafferty, G McDonagh; C Freeman (0-4), A O'Shea (0-2), R Geraghty (0-1); K Charlton, A Walsh (0-4, 3f), A Corduff (0-1). Subs - D Gavin (0-1) for Charlton (39), D O'Hara for Geraghty (49).

Mayo: Michael Schlingermann; David Gavin, Keith Rogers, Michael Walsh; Ciaran Charlton, Shane McDermott, Caolan Crowe; Danny Kirby, Aidan Walsh (0-6); Andrew Farrell, Darren Coen (0-1), Fergal Durkan; Daryl Herbert, Cillian O'Connor (2-0), Alex Corduff (0-1). Subs: Ian Costello, Jack McDonnell, John Carney (0-1), Michael McCormack

Not a bad return.

Hard to know with current crop. We might get a couple of seniors.
Stephen Coen looks the most likely. I think Hall and Plunkett maybe if they get the size.
Cunniffe and Cian Hanley have another year at minor and both looked very good already this year.

Eh? From a Mayo perspective no stone should be left unturned trying to develop Conroy (probably the most complete of the three FFs), Doherty (who is like a blinkered horse with the ball in hand, but obviously a very talented scorer) and Irwin who has the size and ability to develop into a senior. The other lads baring maybe Hanley would be coming into positions with good depth already.

I m not following you??

Mayo need FFs, not backs. A wing-forward like Hanley would be nice, but secondary to a lad like Conroy in terms of importance. Lads like Hall and Coen may make the cut but they're not at positions where Mayo are crying out for help or even depth. I think Mayo's forwards carried a team that routinely was poor in the middle and a little stand-offish at back. They are where the big potential lies in this Mayo team so it was bizarre you wouldn't mention any of the FFs.

That Irish Times article is probably the poorest piece of GAA  journalism I have ever seen, and that is saying something.
Gavin Cummiskey should be ashamed of himself.
If some of the windup merchants on a forum like this had written it it could have been laughed off. Seriously disrespectful to Mayo as well as Tyrone. Mayo minors were excellent on Sunday and deserved their win.
Tyrone have overachieved with a young team and still could have won the game on Sunday with a bit of luck and a few breaks going their way.
Both teams deserve credit rather than having this rubbish published in a national newspaper.
This years minor final was a much better game in terms of both entertainment and quality of football than the really poor, negative, boring minor final served up last year by Dublin and Meath. I nearly fell asleep in Croke Park during it. I can't remember any outcry after that game?
The media campaign against Tyrone has gone too far now and needs to stop.

Trying to call other minor teams negative after Tyrone's antics this year is a little too rich for human blood. The Kildare robots might be able to handle it, though.

Not bizarre at all Sy. it s just that I ve seen it all before. If there is anything Mayo produce it s knacky minor corner forwards. Hope these lads go back to Club, College and U21s and make it as senior. Not dismissing them at all. And I m not going to scrutinise 17 yr olds on here. 

But you have to factor in that some of the lads that were playing against our forwards will never play senior. Some may not even play senior club. Some of the Mayo minor teams listed above that played in AI finals dont even play any more. That s the reality. You know that when Ros won minor in 06 that a lot of fans would have anticipated that bunch to mature into serious  senior players that would be back in Croke Park as a serious team. But that is not the way it works. As we ve found out often enough it takes a rare enough player to be able to compete when it comes to last 8 and AI final day is a different galaxy.

We've got plenty from that team and there's more to come from a lot of those lads. This is the lazy punditry that's applied to them a lot by outsiders but if the 2006 Mayo U21s walked into a team in free-fall where would they be? Certainly not competing in back-to-back AI finals.

Free-fall doesn't mean a couple championship shocks to minnows, it means the team panel collapsing, once-in-a-lifetime players retiring with years left on their careers, management openly attacking supporters and vice versa. We ended up in D4 heading into the 2010 championship.

Mayo lost to Sligo and Longford in 2010. Big friggin' deal. You've been hanging in D1 for donkey's years. You'd made AI finals four times in the previous decade or so. We didn't have those luxuries so of course progress is going to be judged by a very different graph. A lot of those 2006 players have made serious strides, particularly under Fergie and again this year under Evans. They certainly have not been a failure and their application and dedication has been a clear break from the tumultuous decade of mis-adventures that had preceded them. Roscommon supporters were far more circumspect about the speed progress was likely to happen at than outsiders were. The fooling around last season was another unnecessary set-back.

For Mayo they've got a team coming off two AI finals, two league semis and one league final to integrate players like Adam Gallagher, Conroy, Irwin or Hanley into. You have the luxury of letting the existing team help carry the youngsters on their first few steps. Our lads had no such luck.

Haven' t read the rest but that is bullshit Sy. In 2006 young Mayo players came into a crap management - and that 4 years of crap has possibly cost us an AI. Top players like Boyle and Parsons were destroyed. Players with a bit of balls like Harte were treated like shite. Cop yerself on. Now I ll read the rest of your post.

Crap management or no crap management, what was the general standard of play, funding and expectation in the county? All those crap management teams didn't manage to get ye to drop for D1 once which must be a serious black mark in their quest for crapness.

Management in Mayohave to be judged on championship. Tough, but if a county is regularly reaching the last 8/4/2 that is the minimum requirement really.

As for D1 I reckon you could stand down the Mayo starting 15 the last day and still have a good cut at staying in D1. Apart from Dublin I dont think another county could make that boast. But strength in depth does not seem to do us any favour in September.

Mayo XV league 2014

              Clarkie/O Malley

Michael Walsh Shane McHale Kevin Keane

Brendan Harrison Danny Geraghty James Burke

        Barry Moran Jason Gibbons

Richie Feeney Darren Coen Conor O Shea

Evan Regan Jason Doherty Michael Conroy

The above could even win a Connacht championship at the present time and I bet I ve overlooked a couple.

[Blowitupref]

As for D1 I reckon you could stand down the Mayo starting 15 the last day and still have a good cut at staying in D1. Apart from Dublin I dont think another county could make that boast. But strength in depth does not seem to do us any favour in September.

Mayo XV league 2014

              Clarkie/O Malley

Michael Walsh Shane McHale Kevin Keane

Brendan Harrison Danny Geraghty James Burke

        Barry Moran Jason Gibbons

Richie Feeney Darren Coen Conor O Shea

Evan Regan Jason Doherty Michael Conroy

The above could even win a Connacht championship at the present time and I bet I ve overlooked a couple.

Good for you Moysider but you are somewhat over-rating the strength in depth Mayo have. Its not the long ago that Roscommon and Sligo have got within one score v Mayo in Connacht finals and London brought Mayo to extra time.

IMO that Mayo team named above would get relegated from D1.

[moysider]

As for D1 I reckon you could stand down the Mayo starting 15 the last day and still have a good cut at staying in D1. Apart from Dublin I dont think another county could make that boast. But strength in depth does not seem to do us any favour in September.

Mayo XV league 2014

              Clarkie/O Malley

Michael Walsh Shane McHale Kevin Keane

Brendan Harrison Danny Geraghty James Burke

        Barry Moran Jason Gibbons

Richie Feeney Darren Coen Conor O Shea

Evan Regan Jason Doherty Michael Conroy

The above could even win a Connacht championship at the present time and I bet I ve overlooked a couple.

Good for you Moysider but you are somewhat over-rating the strength in depth Mayo have. Its not the long ago that Roscommon and Sligo have got within one score v Mayo in Connacht finals and London brought Mayo to extra time.

IMO that Mayo team named above would get relegated from D1.

It might but it would give it a good shot if it took it seriously. That s all I said. Unlike Kerry last Spring who were disappearing without trace until they called on the cavalry - the old warhorses dripping with crosses.

And the way the CC turned out this year I m pretty confident that the above team 'could' have won it.

[Blowitupref]

It might but it would give it a good shot if it took it seriously. That s all I said. Unlike Kerry last Spring who were disappearing without trace until they called on the cavalry - the old warhorses dripping with crosses.

And the way the CC turned out this year I m pretty confident that the above team 'could' have won it.

The last two years in div one Mayo finished on 6 and 7 points how points do you think they would have got with 15 changes? and London were good enough to beat Sligo,Leitrim this summer i also think they would be good to beat a 2nd string Mayo side.

If Galway,Roscommon and Sligo start taking Connacht more seriously again you might discover how competitive the province can be.

[muppet]

Hmm....

Mayo XV league 2014

              Clarkie/O Malley

Kevin Keane  Shane McHale  Michael Walsh

Richie Feeney Danny Geraghty James Burke

        Barry Moran Jason Gibbons

Evan Regan  Aidan Kilcoyne Cathal Carolan

Conor Mortimor Danny Kirby Jason Doherty

I think that team would do no worse than our 2007-2010 efforts.

[moysider]

It might but it would give it a good shot if it took it seriously. That s all I said. Unlike Kerry last Spring who were disappearing without trace until they called on the cavalry - the old warhorses dripping with crosses.

And the way the CC turned out this year I m pretty confident that the above team 'could' have won it.

The last two years in div one Mayo finished on 6 and 7 points how points do you think they would have got with 15 changes? and London were good enough to beat Sligo,Leitrim this summer i also think they would be good to beat a 2nd string Mayo side.

If Galway,Roscommon and Sligo start taking Connacht more seriously again you might discover how competitive the province can be.

Are you serious! I thought this was a serious board. Galway, Roscommon and Sligo have not been taking championship football seriously enough! Like why not?

Believe me they were serious. So what were they taking seriously instead? Divisions X,Y,Z of national league or maybe the FBD?

Sorry no. London would not have come near the 2nd string Mayo above. Not if they were up to Summer speed.

[Blowitupref]

Are you serious! I thought this was a serious board. Galway, Roscommon and Sligo have not been taking championship football seriously enough! Like why not?

Believe me they were serious. So what were they taking seriously instead? Divisions X,Y,Z of national league or maybe the FBD?

Sorry no. London would not have come near the 2nd string Mayo above. Not if they were up to Summer speed.

Its Minor football thread and you are typing about Mayos second string senior sides competing in div one and winning Connacht, are you serious!

IMO any decent side that gets hammered in games aren't taking it serious and you have to give credit to the London for taking out Sligo,Leitrim thats why i think they would also take out a weakened Mayo without 15 starters.

I bet as soon as Mayo are beaten by a less than great side you will say they weren't taking the game seriously.

[moysider]

Are you serious! I thought this was a serious board. Galway, Roscommon and Sligo have not been taking championship football seriously enough! Like why not?

Believe me they were serious. So what were they taking seriously instead? Divisions X,Y,Z of national league or maybe the FBD?

Sorry no. London would not have come near the 2nd string Mayo above. Not if they were up to Summer speed.

Its Minor football thread and you are typing about Mayos second string senior sides competing in div one and winning Connacht, are you serious!

IMO any decent side that gets hammered in games aren't taking it serious and you have to give credit to the London for taking out Sligo,Leitrim thats why i think they would also take out a weakened Mayo without 15 starters.

I bet as soon as Mayo are beaten by a less than great side you will say they weren't taking the game seriously.quote[/

On the contrary. My posts from 2010 and before when we were beaten by less than great sides are still there to be seen. Far from making excuses for our lot.  Between 95  (where shipped a big beating in Tuam) and 96 championeraship we did a huge revamp and almost got over the line in September with a rookie team coming from Div.3. Several of the 96 team had not played champioship before including the Keeper and the Captain. MacDonald was not even in the country. Quality platers like O Neill  and Butler were not even involved and we still got close.

On the contrary. My posts from 2010 and before when we were beaten by less than great sides are still there to be seen. Far from making excuses for our lot.  Between 95  (where shipped a big beating in Tuam) and 96 championaship we did a huge revamp and almost got over the line in September with a rookie team coming from Div.3. Several of the 96 team had not played champioship before including the Keeper and the Captain. MacDonald was not even in the country. Quality platers like O Neill  and Butler were not even involved and we still got close.

[INDIANA]

As for D1 I reckon you could stand down the Mayo starting 15 the last day and still have a good cut at staying in D1. Apart from Dublin I dont think another county could make that boast. But strength in depth does not seem to do us any favour in September.

Mayo XV league 2014

              Clarkie/O Malley

Michael Walsh Shane McHale Kevin Keane

Brendan Harrison Danny Geraghty James Burke

        Barry Moran Jason Gibbons

Richie Feeney Darren Coen Conor O Shea

Evan Regan Jason Doherty Michael Conroy

The above could even win a Connacht championship at the present time and I bet I ve overlooked a couple.

Good for you Moysider but you are somewhat over-rating the strength in depth Mayo have. Its not the long ago that Roscommon and Sligo have got within one score v Mayo in Connacht finals and London brought Mayo to extra time.

IMO that Mayo team named above would get relegated from D1.

It might but it would give it a good shot if it took it seriously. That s all I said. Unlike Kerry last Spring who were disappearing without trace until they called on the cavalry - the old warhorses dripping with crosses.

And the way the CC turned out this year I m pretty confident that the above team 'could' have won it.

Is that not more of a reflection of how bad the CC is? I thought Galway showed some marginal improvement this year.

I don;t know what the hell goes on in Galway to be honest. Stacks of good players who seem to never come through the system (if they have one)

Dublin have a development senior team outside the senior team who pretty much train like a county team. Nutrition, proper weights and practice matches against Dublin's bench asa well as most of them being involved with the County 21's.

If I was involved in Galway that's the first thing I'd do is set that up and I guarantee you it would work.

[GalwayBayBoy]

As for D1 I reckon you could stand down the Mayo starting 15 the last day and still have a good cut at staying in D1. Apart from Dublin I dont think another county could make that boast. But strength in depth does not seem to do us any favour in September.

Mayo XV league 2014

              Clarkie/O Malley

Michael Walsh Shane McHale Kevin Keane

Brendan Harrison Danny Geraghty James Burke

        Barry Moran Jason Gibbons

Richie Feeney Darren Coen Conor O Shea

Evan Regan Jason Doherty Michael Conroy

The above could even win a Connacht championship at the present time and I bet I ve overlooked a couple.

Good for you Moysider but you are somewhat over-rating the strength in depth Mayo have. Its not the long ago that Roscommon and Sligo have got within one score v Mayo in Connacht finals and London brought Mayo to extra time.

IMO that Mayo team named above would get relegated from D1.

It might but it would give it a good shot if it took it seriously. That s all I said. Unlike Kerry last Spring who were disappearing without trace until they called on the cavalry - the old warhorses dripping with crosses.

And the way the CC turned out this year I m pretty confident that the above team 'could' have won it.

Is that not more of a reflection of how bad the CC is? I thought Galway showed some marginal improvement this year.

I don;t know what the hell goes on in Galway to be honest. Stacks of good players who seem to never come through the system (if they have one)

Dublin have a development senior team outside the senior team who pretty much train like a county team. Nutrition, proper weights and practice matches against Dublin's bench asa well as most of them being involved with the County 21's.

If I was involved in Galway that's the first thing I'd do is set that up and I guarantee you it would work.

I really doubt a "reserve" Mayo team would win the CC (even a non-vintage CC). People used to say that a reserve Kilkenny team would have won the All-Ireland when they were at their peak. They wouldn't have.

[moysider]

As for D1 I reckon you could stand down the Mayo starting 15 the last day and still have a good cut at staying in D1. Apart from Dublin I dont think another county could make that boast. But strength in depth does not seem to do us any favour in September.

Mayo XV league 2014

              Clarkie/O Malley

Michael Walsh Shane McHale Kevin Keane

Brendan Harrison Danny Geraghty James Burke

        Barry Moran Jason Gibbons

Richie Feeney Darren Coen Conor O Shea

Evan Regan Jason Doherty Michael Conroy

The above could even win a Connacht championship at the present time and I bet I ve overlooked a couple.

Good for you Moysider but you are somewhat over-rating the strength in depth Mayo have. Its not the long ago that Roscommon and Sligo have got within one score v Mayo in Connacht finals and London brought Mayo to extra time.

IMO that Mayo team named above would get relegated from D1.

It might but it would give it a good shot if it took it seriously. That s all I said. Unlike Kerry last Spring who were disappearing without trace until they called on the cavalry - the old warhorses dripping with crosses.

And the way the CC turned out this year I m pretty confident that the above team 'could' have won it.

Is that not more of a reflection of how bad the CC is? I thought Galway showed some marginal improvement this year.

I don;t know what the hell goes on in Galway to be honest. Stacks of good players who seem to never come through the system (if they have one)

Dublin have a development senior team outside the senior team who pretty much train like a county team. Nutrition, proper weights and practice matches against Dublin's bench asa well as most of them being involved with the County 21's.

If I was involved in Galway that's the first thing I'd do is set that up and I guarantee you it would work.

I really doubt a "reserve" Mayo team would win the CC (even a non-vintage CC). People used to say that a reserve Kilkenny team would have won the All-Ireland when they were at their peak. They wouldn't have.

Hardly a reserve. I think most have played some championship football. I expect that team would give the AI starting 15 a good run.

[Captain Obvious]

Hardly a reserve. I think most have played some championship football. I expect that team would give the AI starting 15 a good run.

How many senior championship appearances would the players in bold have?

Clarkie/O Malley

Michael Walsh Shane McHale Kevin Keane

Brendan Harrison Danny Geraghty James Burke

        Barry Moran Jason Gibbons

Richie Feeney Darren Coen Conor O Shea

Evan Regan Jason Doherty Michael Conroy