Kerry Drink Driving Permit

[Bingo]

The whole idea is just plain batty. Fair enough, the rural person is at a disadvantage and circumstances are against them but their are many solutions to it rather than just allowing drink driving.

And also to what extent are they allowed to drink drive? 3 pints, 10 pints etc. Where are they allowed to drive too? Its hardly worth exploring or thinking about. I'm sure that the person having 2/3 pints in rural Kerry are having their 2/3 pints and driving home as it is, the permit wouldn't make much difference to them.

As deiseach says, you can't compare rural life/transport to city life.

[Milltown Row2]

The whole idea is just plain batty. Fair enough, the rural person is at a disadvantage and circumstances are against them but their are many solutions to it rather than just allowing drink driving.

And also to what extent are they allowed to drink drive? 3 pints, 10 pints etc. Where are they allowed to drive too? Its hardly worth exploring or thinking about. I'm sure that the person having 2/3 pints in rural Kerry are having their 2/3 pints and driving home as it is, the permit wouldn't make much difference to them.

As deiseach says, you can't compare rural life/transport to city life.

Designated roads (obviously his way home) and I think it was up to 4 pints or whatever that means on the alcohol chart, as you say they are probably doing that already but the fear of losing the car because of it would be the main thing here.

[deiseach]

This vote in Kerry is parish pump politics of the most crass kind. Note how many councillors abstained/weren't present. They probably thought it was daft as well, but didn't want to be hearing the Healy-Raes come election time going on about those who betrayed the right to go to the pub for a few scoops. There should be a quorum for council meetings, having five councillors out of (by my reckoning) 27 determine the policy of Kerry County Council is bats.

[Bingo]

This vote in Kerry is parish pump politics of the most crass kind. Note how many councillors abstained/weren't present. They probably thought it was daft as well, but didn't want to be hearing the Healy-Raes come election time going on about those who betrayed the right to go to the pub for a few scoops. There should be a quorum for council meetings, having five councillors out of (by my reckoning) 27 determine the policy of Kerry County Council is bats.

he's the Ryanair of politics, the only bad publicity is no publicity.

[LeoMc]

This vote in Kerry is parish pump politics of the most crass kind. Note how many councillors abstained/weren't present. They probably thought it was daft as well, but didn't want to be hearing the Healy-Raes come election time going on about those who betrayed the right to go to the pub for a few scoops. There should be a quorum for council meetings, having five councillors out of (by my reckoning) 27 determine the policy of Kerry County Council is bats.

Perhaps they could vote by phone. I am sure HR could set it up.

[deiseach]

he's the Ryanair of politics, the only bad publicity is no publicity.

Don't you mean the Luis Suarez of politics?

[Tony Baloney]

It is very simple. If you are driving don't drink any alcohol. Exercise some self-control, that way the limits are not in question.

FWIW a couple of local rural pubs in Armagh take people home at the end of the night.

[ballinaman]

It is very simple. If you are driving don't drink any alcohol. Exercise some self-control, that way the limits are not in question.

FWIW a couple of local rural pubs in Armagh take people home at the end of the night.

Agreed. I can't see why anyone would risk it, get a lift, taxi, whatever needs be if you are that desperate to go to the pub.

[Jeepers Creepers]

'Kerry Drink drive permit'

Its like a headline from a bad joke book

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Anyone who defends any level of drinking alcohol and driving are clearly as batty as JHR. Socialising is not a right, it is a bonus. Let them go to the pub and drink minerals, I do it all the time and still have the craic. I get lashed drunk many a time too, but always make sure I am walking home, have a lift or using public transport.

[magpie seanie]

It is very simple. If you are driving don't drink any alcohol. Exercise some self-control, that way the limits are not in question.

FWIW a couple of local rural pubs in Armagh take people home at the end of the night.

Agreed. I can't see why anyone would risk it, get a lift, taxi, whatever needs be if you are that desperate to go to the pub.

People don't risk it and they just stay at home because they can't get a lift or a taxi that will cost less than the few pints.

[magpie seanie]

Anyone who defends any level of drinking alcohol and driving are clearly as batty as JHR. Socialising is not a right, it is a bonus. Let them go to the pub and drink minerals, I do it all the time and still have the craic. I get lashed drunk many a time too, but always make sure I am walking home, have a lift or using public transport.

Actually there's ads on TV now about how dangerous that is. It could be banned too.

[deiseach]

Anyone who defends any level of drinking alcohol and driving are clearly as batty as JHR. Socialising is not a right, it is a bonus. Let them go to the pub and drink minerals, I do it all the time and still have the craic. I get lashed drunk many a time too, but always make sure I am walking home, have a lift or using public transport.

Actually there's ads on TV now about how dangerous that is. It could be banned too.

How many people have been killed by a drink-walker? Yes, it's not smart. But the only person you are endangering is you.

[ballinaman]

It is very simple. If you are driving don't drink any alcohol. Exercise some self-control, that way the limits are not in question.

FWIW a couple of local rural pubs in Armagh take people home at the end of the night.

Agreed. I can't see why anyone would risk it, get a lift, taxi, whatever needs be if you are that desperate to go to the pub.

People don't risk it and they just stay at home because they can't get a lift or a taxi that will cost less than the few pints.

Socialising is important for the elderly in isolated rural communites  I understand, but I think a line has to be drawn with any sort of driving after drinking. There must be other options.

[deiseach]

I think the debate is going round in circles at this stage, so I'll just make the observation that those advocating relaxation of the drink-driving laws have to be able to rationalise the increase in injuries and deaths that will be caused by it. And I'm not being a smart-arse when I say that. People get killed in cars all the time - 10 in the month of January in the Republic - yet no one advocates banning them. Maybe the improvement in the quality of life for those living in rural areas will be so great that yes, the death toll will be tolerable. I nominate Danny Healy-Rea to be the spokesman for this point of view.