The Palestine thread

Started by give her dixie, October 17, 2012, 01:29:42 PM

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AustinPowers

Good video I came across. A lot of interesting  stuff.

It's  31 minutes, but there's  very interesting info within the first 12 minutes  alone about the music festival and  Charlie Kirk


DaleCooper

Quote from: AustinPowers on October 09, 2026, 10:54:46 AMGood video I came across. A lot of interesting  stuff.

It's  31 minutes, but there's  very interesting info within the first 12 minutes  alone about the music festival and  Charlie Kirk


Random lady ranting in the street.

Well, thats me convinced.

"Sinwar wanted a deal" yeah then he launched the most successful operation in Palestinian history that has lead to Israels support cratering in the West.


AustinPowers

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QuoteGood video I came across. A lot of interesting  stuff.

It's  31 minutes, but there's  very interesting info within the first 12 minutes  alone about the music festival and  Charlie Kirk


Random lady ranting in the street.

Well, thats me convinced.

"Sinwar wanted a deal" yeah then he launched the most successful operation in Palestinian history that has lead to Israels support cratering in the West.
I've heard similar in other  posts/videos. 

At this stage , anything  Netanyahu says , I'd  be likely to think the exact opposite is the truth 

DaleCooper

I dont watch videos or do podcasts. I read because time is precious and its far more efficient.

A powerful technique Israel uses is promoting talking heads and lunatics who are maybe 70% right then insert total nonsense.

Charlie Kirk was not "turning on Israel" or anything of the sort. Total rubbish.

Lowkey

Quote from: DaleCooper on Today at 12:27:36 AMI dont watch videos or do podcasts. I read because time is precious and its far more efficient.

A powerful technique Israel uses is promoting talking heads and lunatics who are maybe 70% right then insert total nonsense.

Charlie Kirk was not "turning on Israel" or anything of the sort. Total rubbish.
"Just lost another huge Jewish donor. $2 million a year because we won't cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of inviting Candace.

Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause."
Charlie Kirk in a group chat with some influential Zionists 2 days before he was murdered. It seems you know his mind much better than he did. Must be that mountain of books you're reading.

DaleCooper

Kirk is and was a media whore whose audience was 55 yrs old on average. He copied Ben Shapiros tactic of "rage debaiting" college freshmen on campus. A money worshipping American isnt gonna suddenly change face and alienate his boomer audience.

Was he disturbed by Israels wanton slaughter. I think you could say that he did have some soul remaining as father of young kids.

Some reading for you

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-869055


But he was engaging in brinksmanship with donors and actively trying to figure out what counter narratives could be used to subvert "antisemitism" among the youth.


"The purpose of this letter is to lay out our concerns and outline potential remedies. Everything written here is from a place of deep love for Israel and the Jewish people," Kirk added. "I think it's important to be brutally honest with those you love. In my opinion, Israel is losing the information war and needs a 'communications intervention".

Lowkey

Quote from: DaleCooper on Today at 11:10:36 AMKirk is and was a media whore whose audience was 55 yrs old on average. He copied Ben Shapiros tactic of "rage debaiting" college freshmen on campus. A money worshipping American isnt gonna suddenly change face and alienate his boomer audience.

Was he disturbed by Israels wanton slaughter. I think you could say that he did have some soul remaining as father of young kids.

Some reading for you

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-869055


But he was engaging in brinksmanship with donors and actively trying to figure out what counter narratives could be used to subvert "antisemitism" among the youth.


"The purpose of this letter is to lay out our concerns and outline potential remedies. Everything written here is from a place of deep love for Israel and the Jewish people," Kirk added. "I think it's important to be brutally honest with those you love. In my opinion, Israel is losing the information war and needs a 'communications intervention".
That letter you're quoting was months before the messages and murder.

You can speculate that the messages were brinksmanship, but you're arrogantly shouting down any possibility that he was turning on Israel, in spite of clear evidence of a rift developing. That's just being dogmatic and intransigent.

And btw even if it was brinkmanship, the question then is how seriously his words were taken by the people on the other side. If pro-Israel donors believed he might actually break with them, that alone could have consequences. Brinkmanship only works if the threat carries some credibility.
 

DaleCooper

He prayed with a Rabbi the night before he began leaking from his neck.

Ready to do battle for Israel.

https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/charlie-kirk-and-rabbi-pal-talked-hours-before-his-death-he-was-in-a-combative-mood/


He annoyed powerful zionists due to refusing to disinvite Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly from some event. Yeah , so what? Theyre always angry and annoyed about something. Ever done business with these folk?


Im ok with people thinking its possible Israel killed Kirk from a propaganda POV but its not reality. Kirk was a "righteous gentile" and useful idiot.



Tubberman

Surely mossad would have taken out Tucker Carlson by now if they did similar for Kirk
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."