The Palestine thread

[DaleCooper]

Norman Finkelstein: "If you resent the power that Jews use... is it irrational? When an ethnic group uses its financial & political clout in order to further a Jewish Supremacist agenda, is it antisemitism? I don't think it is."


Jon Podhoretz celebrates the role that "Jewish money" played in defeating Rep. Thomas Massie: "We have to use what means there are at our disposal, and...that is Jewish money!"

"This is an existential issue for Jews!"

"Anti-Semitic" candidates need to know "they are going to have to go through a buzzsaw" to get elected, he says.

"What other choice does American Jewry have?!"

[Most expensive primary in GOP history $37M]

Massies crime was opposing Israeli genocide.

If someone in UK states such things in Their own terms they can be put in prison, which is why I am merely citing them.

I love and support the nation of Israel btw. Very cool !

[seafoid]

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/2083575625126674803

[AustinPowers]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqx7ql4xqg3o

[seafoid]

https://x.com/academic_la/status/2085407562917457964
fascinating interview in Haaretz today with an IDF artillery soldier, part of the crew that fired thousands of shells into Gaza. She has been discharged and now suffers from PTSD, partly due to trauma from combat in Lebanon and partly due to the realization she has been part of and responsible for severe war crimes: 1) She was responsible for targeting. Not picking the targets but making sure they were hit: ""My job was to calculate firing data, prepare targets, and send them to the soldiers on the guns." 2) She explains how innacurate artillery is and how its use is inherently killing civilians even in cases where the target is military: "In the army they told us we only kill terrorists, but that's a lie. Artillery fire isn't accurate — a hit within a 50-meter radius is considered a good hit." 3) She did not process all the people she had killed until after discharge. The IDF atmosphere is designed to protect you from that realization: ""I left the army and saw the number of children who had been killed, and I was shocked. I started searching obsessively. I looked up the neighborhoods we'd attacked, the villages. I saw that a lot of innocent people were killed in those places. I saw photos of dead children." 4) The guilt ate her up: ""In my head I see the children dying, the mothers crying. I imagine them pulling out the bodies. The guilt doesn't leave. How is it possible? I killed an innocent girl. I'm the one who fed in the targets. It's on me." 5) It changed her political opinions: "Before the army I was far-right, the kind who says 'death to Arabs.' But after the war I understood there's a difference between Hamas terrorists and Palestinian civilians who want peace, who want life." 6) She wants to atone but does not know how: ""I understood that I want to help as many people as possible — to atone for everything I did, for all the dead babies." This person is a war criminal. But she is also a victim of a society and army which raises you to be a war criminal. Her story is a reminder that these soldiers are human beings. Maybe they can be reached and their minds changed. But it is also a reminder of how the genocidal system that produced her creates criminals and manufactures consent for crimes.