Roscommon v Mayo Connacht final 2011

Started by ross4life, June 24, 2011, 07:23:17 PM

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Farrandeelin

#300
Quote from: Tubberman on July 14, 2011, 11:53:58 AM
Quote from: muppet on July 14, 2011, 11:49:00 AM
Good night last night with the two Dublin based supporters clubs getting together. Well organised, well attended despite the recession and good craic.

Some of the questions were head wreckers.

A few notables from here won prizes for Mayo. Any of the Ros lads there?

Monasterevin lost it for our team!
Was a good night, much bigger crowd that I was expecting. JOM showed his face as well and said a few words. Unsurprisingly,he sait on the fence until pushed off it - he reluctantly went for a narrow Mayo win.

Ah yes the one and only great JOM. >:(

Anyway, what time would I need to be up at leaving Sligo on Sunday morning? I googled it but it said 1 hr and 11 minutes, but with the large volumes of traffic from Boyle onwards, I suppose I'll be damn lucky to make it in 2 hrs and 11 minutes...
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Tubberman

I heard from a fella with garda friends that enda will definitely be at the match.
He will be leading the teams around in the parade and singing the national anthem.
ok, the second sentence is made up, but he will be at the match.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Farrandeelin

He'd love singing 'Sinne Fianna Fáil alright'.
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neilthemac

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 14, 2011, 07:51:05 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 14, 2011, 11:53:58 AM
Quote from: muppet on July 14, 2011, 11:49:00 AM
Good night last night with the two Dublin based supporters clubs getting together. Well organised, well attended despite the recession and good craic.

Some of the questions were head wreckers.

A few notables from here won prizes for Mayo. Any of the Ros lads there?

Monasterevin lost it for our team!
Was a good night, much bigger crowd that I was expecting. JOM showed his face as well and said a few words. Unsurprisingly,he sait on the fence until pushed off it - he reluctantly went for a narrow Mayo win.

Ah yes the one and only great JOM. >:(

Anyway, what time would I need to be up at leaving Sligo on Sunday morning? I googled it but it said 1 hr and 11 minutes, but with the large volumes of traffic from Boyle onwards, I suppose I'll be damn lucky to make it in 2 hrs and 11 minutes...

Boyle town centre and Tulsk are the real problems there
lets hope the Gardai have the brains to be in Tulsk on point duty (though they've neglected to do this in the past for games)

ross4life

Quote from: Tubberman on July 14, 2011, 07:56:52 PM
I heard from a fella with garda friends that enda will definitely be at the match.
He will be leading the teams around in the parade and singing the national anthem.
ok, the second sentence is made up, but he will be at the match.
Well you Mayo folks sure are thick-skinned but i suppose he had little choice after what Ming said about him.
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SportsNewsIRELAND podcast 15/07/11
On today's show, Colm Daly talks British open golf with ryder cup hero, christy o connor jr and provincial football finals with all ireland winners John O Mahony from Mayo and Declan Bonner from Donegal.
http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/video/sportsnewsireland-podcast-150711/



muppet

Quote from: ross4life on July 15, 2011, 12:46:38 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 14, 2011, 07:56:52 PM
I heard from a fella with garda friends that enda will definitely be at the match.
He will be leading the teams around in the parade and singing the national anthem.
ok, the second sentence is made up, but he will be at the match.
Well you Mayo folks sure are thick-skinned but i suppose he had little choice after what Ming said about him.

I think you overestimate the relevance of Ming and his Miss Piggy loving colleagues.

In a hung Dáil he would be relevent but right now he is as powerful as Michael Healy-Rae.
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HowAreYeGettinOn

Things must be looking up for Mayo - Liam Hayes has forecast a 'relatively easy win for Roscommon' (last night's 'Off The Ball' on Newstalk). Not only that, but Mayo's record over the last 25 years makes them a 'failed entity' according to Liameen. In fact, he doesn't see any evidence as to why Mayo should be considered one of the big two in Connaught!!!

Fortunately Eugene McGee was on hand to talk some sense. Although he went for a Ros win too.

Ros may win, but I don't see it being 'relatively easy'...

IolarCoisCuain

Quote from: ross4life on July 15, 2011, 12:46:38 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 14, 2011, 07:56:52 PM
I heard from a fella with garda friends that enda will definitely be at the match.
He will be leading the teams around in the parade and singing the national anthem.
ok, the second sentence is made up, but he will be at the match.
Well you Mayo folks sure are thick-skinned but i suppose he had little choice after what Ming said about him.

I wouldn't be Enda's biggest fan but I seriously doubt if he decides where he goes or doesn't go on what Luke has to say about him.

ballinaman

Quote from: HowAreYeGettinOn on July 15, 2011, 11:59:10 AM
Things must be looking up for Mayo - Liam Hayes has forecast a 'relatively easy win for Roscommon' (last night's 'Off The Ball' on Newstalk). Not only that, but Mayo's record over the last 25 years makes them a 'failed entity' according to Liameen. In fact, he doesn't see any evidence as to why Mayo should be considered one of the big two in Connaught!!!

Fortunately Eugene McGee was on hand to talk some sense. Although he went for a Ros win too.

Ros may win, but I don't see it being 'relatively easy'...
God I can't stand that bollix. He dedicates his summer to having a swipe at Mayo football every year.

Farrandeelin

Here's my own tuppence worth as I may not get near the keyboard till Monday again. (Hurray says ye! ;D)

I do think that the forwards of both teams will have too much firepower for the defenders. I'm not comfortable with 3 of the 6 Mayo defenders, Vaughan, Cunniffe and T. Mortimer. We need a huge performance around the middle section of the field and we will need our forwards tracking back a good bit I feel. The sweeper system may be used if McLoughlin is told to do so. Shine and Kilbride (and Cregg and Casey too) will need some stopping.

However Mayo's forwards may take some stopping if good ball is given into them as well. Dillon when he is on song can be brilliant, let's hope he can produce the goods on Sunday. Andy Moran and himself will need to get a lot of the so called dirty ball around midfield. I have a slight hunch that our midfield is slightly better than Roscommon's. Afterall, Finneran cannot improve to the extent that he has gone from an extremely poor - in my view let it be said - midfielder to a great one in a year. I think the two O'Sheas will test him out, so will McGarrity if he enters the fray.

It's a very hard one to call as Leitri didn't push Ros at all the last day they played and that was 5 weeks ago now at this stage. Whereas Galway 'did a Leitrim' in the second half and didn't bother turning up at all. Frig it, I'll be slated if I go for any other way except my own, so I'll give a hesitant vote to Mayo. It could be another 1 point margin. At least the loser will have a 13 day turn around.

Maigh Eo abú.
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moysider

Quote from: ballinaman on July 15, 2011, 12:35:50 PM
Quote from: HowAreYeGettinOn on July 15, 2011, 11:59:10 AM
Things must be looking up for Mayo - Liam Hayes has forecast a 'relatively easy win for Roscommon' (last night's 'Off The Ball' on Newstalk). Not only that, but Mayo's record over the last 25 years makes them a 'failed entity' according to Liameen. In fact, he doesn't see any evidence as to why Mayo should be considered one of the big two in Connaught!!!

Fortunately Eugene McGee was on hand to talk some sense. Although he went for a Ros win too.

Ros may win, but I don't see it being 'relatively easy'...
God I can't stand that bollix. He dedicates his summer to having a swipe at Mayo football every year.

Maybe. And I m wondering was our record over previous 25 any better. True Hayes has had a problem with Mayo since his playing days and was outplayed by TJ any time they met and Denis K straightened his jib in a challenge match once. McGee has never rated us either and that s fine by me. On the other hand in 04 he had Roscommon the 'pin-up boys' of football.
  The reality is these boys pretty much reflect the general attitude out there to Mayo football ie. chokers, failures and losers. Time we started earning some respect and we could start on Sunday by winning this one. Only thing to do is ram their predictions down their throats. Of course they would have no problem explaining it all away by saying the opposition were disappointingly poor and blah blah and blah. The get out clause of all these journeymen hacks - and yeah I m including McGee in that.

IolarCoisCuain

Interesting preview from former Roscommon manager John Maughan in the Mayo Advertiser:

http://www.advertiser.ie/mayo/article/41865/confidence-in-roscommon-but-its-mayo-for-me




Confidence in Roscommon, but it's Mayo for me
MAYO ADVERTISER, JULY 15, 2011.

I have been chatting to a few of my Roscommon friends over recent days and they appear very confident about their team's chances this Sunday. I can understand why they might feel that way. Former midfielder and current team manager Fergal O' Donnell has his team putting in good performances these days. I have heard stories of training camps and twice daily sessions being conducted, so it would appear that no stone is being left unturned as he pushes and strives for success. They are extremely fit and well drilled and are a formidable side. In their two games played in this year's championship they played superbly. OK, the quality of the opposition i.e. New York and Leitrim wouldn't be ranked very highly in the current ratings of championship contenders, but other teams have struggled in New York and Leitrim have always proved to be formidable opposition in Carrick on Shannon.

I was there to witness the latter performance and was impressed with the confidence and the cohesiveness of the current Connacht champions. They are a much better side than last year. Their game plan is simple. Get the ball as quickly as possible into their big men in the full forward line. Senan Kilbride is the more talented in my opinion despite the fact that Donie Shine commands most of the headlines. Kilbride, you might recall, was brilliant for his club side in this year's All Ireland Club final and also for his county team in their opening game of the championship. This guy can play, folks and if he is allowed to dominate then a Mayo success will prove difficult. A lot depends on the quality of ball coming in to him. I would be inclined to get an extra defender into his zone any time he is in possession. Shine on the other hand needs a little more room in which to manufacture a score but, as he proved against Leitrim, he has an eye for goal. On his day he is also lethal from frees, so discipline, also, will be paramount in this sector. Cathal Cregg on the half forward line is a player I have huge regard for. He is exceptionally talented, very quick and always looks to take on his man. When Roscommon looked a beaten side in the Division Four final a few months ago, Cregg was moved into the full forward line and he almost single handily dragged his team back into contention with a few terrific scores. Mayo must be aware that he might not play the entire seventy minutes in the half forward line where he is currently selected. He cannot be allowed to run at Mayo's defence and suck frees as this could also prove fatal from a Mayo point of view. Karl Mannion who lines out at midfield was a huge Mayo fan as a young fella as his dad is a Mayo man. That fact will be far from his mind on Sunday. Both he and the towering Michael Finneran are having a superb championship so far this season. However I expect that the Mayo pairing will be better than these two when push comes to shove on Sunday.

Seamus O' Shea was excellent against Galway and I see no reason why he cannot reproduce a similar performance come Sunday. Not wanting to be outshone by his older sibling I suspect the younger brother will put in a big shift. Up front Mayo needs a more consistent performance from all six to win a Connacht final. There is undoubtedly big pressure on those playing in their first Connacht senior final and with four in the forward line up; seasoned campaigners Andy Moran and Alan Dillon will once again carry the burden of providing the leadership and guile up front. I am quite surprised that the towering Barry Moran isn't to be carried as a sub for Sunday's game. I believe he was recalled for the trial match last weekend and, from reports, did well. The Roscommon full back line are fairly small and he would have provided an ideal option as a big target man on the edge of the square if things weren't going according to plan.

All the pressure of this final is on Roscommon and it will be interesting to see if they crack under it. I think Mayo are an improving side and will have garnered huge confidence from beating their old rivals Galway. It's Mayo for me by a couple of points.

The Windy City

I was in Chicago last weekend. I was tuned to RTE Radio 1 for most of Saturday afternoon listening to the matches from Ireland. However I was anxious to see the Leinster final on TV on Sunday. I was up at the crack of dawn and made my way to Gaelic Park for the 8am throw in. I recall my last visit to the venue about twenty years ago to see a 'live' match when there was barely standing room. Not so last Sunday. At 8am there were approximately twenty enthusiastic GAA heads sitting in front of the big screen. I met George Gannon who is 95 years of age. He proudly informed me that he had played against the "Mortimer's grandfather" years ago. George drives to Gaelic Park to see most games throughout the summer and was full of questions regarding Mayo's potential. He was well pleased when I suggested we would beat the Rossies this Sunday. We sat impatiently for the live feed but by 8.15am realised there was a problem. Most decided to stick it out but I scampered off down the road looking for an Irish pub showing the match. I arrived at Cullen's pub minutes before half time. There was a bigger crowd here but still far from a full house. I didn't get too excited watching the match as it was a poor game. The Dubs are slipping out of form at the wrong time of the year. It seems to me that several players are looking over their shoulder waiting for the signal to be hauled ashore. Consequently many of the Dublin players are playing without confidence and it now seems that manager Pat Gilroy doesn't know what his best fifteen is. In fact he has too many players at his disposal. Wicklow by contrast have about sixteen or seventeen players and are playing out of their skins. With all due respect Wicklow will not win this years' All-Ireland but they have brightened up the lives of Wicklow fans with yet another year of high drama. The back door has been kind to them and I think their luck might just continue for another few weeks.

I returned to Gaelic Park in the afternoon to watch a few more live matches. The guys in the bar there were able to tell me that a telecommunications crew working in the area had inadvertently snipped the line carrying the signal for the match! I don't think those guys were invited in for a cold one! I stayed for a few hours and chatted to a few of the lads who were playing matches throughout the afternoon. Most of the young fellas that I spoke to were finding it difficult to find work. Some were considering moving on to pastures new in the hope of finding employment before returning home in a few weeks time. Tough times in Chicago too.

Tubberman

#313
Well, Enda won't be attending - that's the end of that sideshow.
It's probably best all round, now all the attention can be on the match itself.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/kenny-to-swerve-connacht-final-512950.html

Taoiseach Enda Kenny will not be attending the Connacht SFC final between his native Mayo and Roscommon this weekend.

It had been suggested that Mr Kenny may not receive a warm welcome if he attended the game in light of the closure of the A&E department at Roscommon County Hospital this week.

However Mr. Kenny will instead be visiting his children in the Gaeltacht for a "family event".

He told Galway Bay FM that he only attends games to "enjoy them".

"Family first and sport second," Mr Kenny said.

"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Blowitupref

Quote from: ross4life on July 15, 2011, 12:46:38 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 14, 2011, 07:56:52 PM
I heard from a fella with garda friends that enda will definitely be at the match.
He will be leading the teams around in the parade and singing the national anthem.
ok, the second sentence is made up, but he will be at the match.
Well you Mayo folks sure are thick-skinned but i suppose he had little choice after what Ming said about him.

Roscommon TD laid down the gauntlet to Enda Kenny, arguing that he should not stay away. "It would say a lot about his feelings on the issue if he doesn't come to the match," Luke 'Ming' Flanagan told The Mayo News last night (Monday). "What would that say about his stance? It would tell me that he is 100 per cent aware of the betrayal he has perpetrated on the people of Roscommon. What would it say about the Taoiseach of this country if felt he could not attend a GAA game?"
If Mr Kenny does go, he will not only face demonstrators, but also a strong symbol of their grievance, said Deputy Flanigan. "All that is between Hyde Park and the hospital is the graveyard and people can draw any amount of conclusions from that. Will it be his political graveyard?

TBH well said by Ming.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose