Its snowing!

[The Iceman]

2ft of snow fell in New York in under 24hours...snow day 

we're 12 miles from manhattan, had 30 inches of snow, 50 mph winds, and drifts 5 feet in places.

got hit hard here lad too. Drifts are the worst. Was shovelling for about 2 hours this morning just to get the path and drive half clear. Some craic

[oakleafgael]

Before you rush to blame either NIW or there subcontractors there are a number of factors to be considered.

When was the main installed?

How did the water get into the boundary box? If it wasnt a leak inside the box then its certainly not the fault of NIW or there subcontractor if water has got inside the box.

What depth is the pipe from the box to your house?

A new main was installed on our road just three years ago to carry enough water into town for the growing number of houses about the town. For the following 18 months there were numerous  bursts where the water pressure couldn't be contained in the new pipes due to the welding on the joints or bursts in the connection to houses.  The water supply could be off at any time due to repairs. Thankfully, it seems to have stabilised.

If the box had been properly sealed there would have been no water inside it to freeze.

The pipe is at least 30 inches below the ground all the way in from the road.  All they had to do was to connect the new stopcock at the same level as before.

The problems on the main on your road where nothing to do with either the Electro fusion or butt welded joints in the pipe but due to surge pressures that werent picked up on at design stage. On maybe a dozen ocassions or more approx 6/8 Bar of pressure higher than max design pressure ended up in the line with the end result of bursts which ou had to put up with.

The box would have been properly sealed during construction stage and this is one of the things that is very tightly checked when the works are being snagged. If in the intervening period the box has been opened and not closed properly or even damaged by traffic it is hardly the fault of a contractor.

Measure the depth of the box from the footpath down to the crown of the meter plug and let me know what depth it is. It will reveal a lot.

[Minder]

oakleafgael@niwater.com

[oakleafgael]

oakleafgael@niwater.com

oakleafgael@pissedoffwithjoepublicgivingthepooraulcontractortheblame.com 

[Tony Baloney]

Before you rush to blame either NIW or there subcontractors there are a number of factors to be considered.

When was the main installed?

How did the water get into the boundary box? If it wasnt a leak inside the box then its certainly not the fault of NIW or there subcontractor if water has got inside the box.

What depth is the pipe from the box to your house?

A new main was installed on our road just three years ago to carry enough water into town for the growing number of houses about the town. For the following 18 months there were numerous  bursts where the water pressure couldn't be contained in the new pipes due to the welding on the joints or bursts in the connection to houses.  The water supply could be off at any time due to repairs. Thankfully, it seems to have stabilised.

If the box had been properly sealed there would have been no water inside it to freeze.

The pipe is at least 30 inches below the ground all the way in from the road.  All they had to do was to connect the new stopcock at the same level as before.

The problems on the main on your road where nothing to do with either the Electro fusion or butt welded joints in the pipe but due to surge pressures that werent picked up on at design stage. On maybe a dozen ocassions or more approx 6/8 Bar of pressure higher than max design pressure ended up in the line with the end result of bursts which ou had to put up with.

The box would have been properly sealed during construction stage and this is one of the things that is very tightly checked when the works are being snagged. If in the intervening period the box has been opened and not closed properly or even damaged by traffic it is hardly the fault of a contractor.

Measure the depth of the box from the footpath down to the crown of the meter plug and let me know what depth it is. It will reveal a lot.

NI Water is a professionally run organisation as we've seen over the past few years. If there is potential for a box to be damaged by traffic why put it in harms way?

[Never beat the deeler]

has anyone else had their water cut off today?

water been gone since last thurday, a bit of a balls getting sick of having cider on the cornflakes

Why would the water being off mean you have to put cider on your cornflakes?

[oakleafgael]

Before you rush to blame either NIW or there subcontractors there are a number of factors to be considered.

When was the main installed?

How did the water get into the boundary box? If it wasnt a leak inside the box then its certainly not the fault of NIW or there subcontractor if water has got inside the box.

What depth is the pipe from the box to your house?

A new main was installed on our road just three years ago to carry enough water into town for the growing number of houses about the town. For the following 18 months there were numerous  bursts where the water pressure couldn't be contained in the new pipes due to the welding on the joints or bursts in the connection to houses.  The water supply could be off at any time due to repairs. Thankfully, it seems to have stabilised.

If the box had been properly sealed there would have been no water inside it to freeze.

The pipe is at least 30 inches below the ground all the way in from the road.  All they had to do was to connect the new stopcock at the same level as before.

The problems on the main on your road where nothing to do with either the Electro fusion or butt welded joints in the pipe but due to surge pressures that werent picked up on at design stage. On maybe a dozen ocassions or more approx 6/8 Bar of pressure higher than max design pressure ended up in the line with the end result of bursts which ou had to put up with.

The box would have been properly sealed during construction stage and this is one of the things that is very tightly checked when the works are being snagged. If in the intervening period the box has been opened and not closed properly or even damaged by traffic it is hardly the fault of a contractor.

Measure the depth of the box from the footpath down to the crown of the meter plug and let me know what depth it is. It will reveal a lot.

NI Water is a professionally run organisation as we've seen over the past few years. If there is potential for a box to be damaged by traffic why put it in harms way?

Your wit and originality knows no bounds.

Where do you suggest that boundary boxes be placed? There cannot be placed in private property or on the carraigeway which only leaves the verge or footpath. They are not put in harms way as you put it but on some occassions they do get damaged. Have you ever seen a lorry parked on the footpath? It's also possible for water to get into them without them being damaged, it can be as simple as someone not closing them properly.

[Tony Baloney]

Before you rush to blame either NIW or there subcontractors there are a number of factors to be considered.

When was the main installed?

How did the water get into the boundary box? If it wasnt a leak inside the box then its certainly not the fault of NIW or there subcontractor if water has got inside the box.

What depth is the pipe from the box to your house?

A new main was installed on our road just three years ago to carry enough water into town for the growing number of houses about the town. For the following 18 months there were numerous  bursts where the water pressure couldn't be contained in the new pipes due to the welding on the joints or bursts in the connection to houses.  The water supply could be off at any time due to repairs. Thankfully, it seems to have stabilised.

If the box had been properly sealed there would have been no water inside it to freeze.

The pipe is at least 30 inches below the ground all the way in from the road.  All they had to do was to connect the new stopcock at the same level as before.

The problems on the main on your road where nothing to do with either the Electro fusion or butt welded joints in the pipe but due to surge pressures that werent picked up on at design stage. On maybe a dozen ocassions or more approx 6/8 Bar of pressure higher than max design pressure ended up in the line with the end result of bursts which ou had to put up with.

The box would have been properly sealed during construction stage and this is one of the things that is very tightly checked when the works are being snagged. If in the intervening period the box has been opened and not closed properly or even damaged by traffic it is hardly the fault of a contractor.

Measure the depth of the box from the footpath down to the crown of the meter plug and let me know what depth it is. It will reveal a lot.

NI Water is a professionally run organisation as we've seen over the past few years. If there is potential for a box to be damaged by traffic why put it in harms way?

Your wit and originality knows no bounds.

Where do you suggest that boundary boxes be placed? There cannot be placed in private property or on the carraigeway which only leaves the verge or footpath. They are not put in harms way as you put it but on some occassions they do get damaged. Have you ever seen a lorry parked on the footpath? It's also possible for water to get into them without them being damaged, it can be as simple as someone not closing them properly.

Poor management and tendering practices are well documented so it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that some contractors haven't a clue and got the work through shady deals.

Anyway as you seem to know what you're on about . On another point there is a severe lack of mains pressure in the house this morn and upstairs bogs are drained. Reduced pressure on mains due to maintenance work considering all was fine at midnight last night?

[Square Ball]

No water in my part of the Ormeau Road, was off last night as well

[oakleafgael]

Before you rush to blame either NIW or there subcontractors there are a number of factors to be considered.

When was the main installed?

How did the water get into the boundary box? If it wasnt a leak inside the box then its certainly not the fault of NIW or there subcontractor if water has got inside the box.

What depth is the pipe from the box to your house?

A new main was installed on our road just three years ago to carry enough water into town for the growing number of houses about the town. For the following 18 months there were numerous  bursts where the water pressure couldn't be contained in the new pipes due to the welding on the joints or bursts in the connection to houses.  The water supply could be off at any time due to repairs. Thankfully, it seems to have stabilised.

If the box had been properly sealed there would have been no water inside it to freeze.

The pipe is at least 30 inches below the ground all the way in from the road.  All they had to do was to connect the new stopcock at the same level as before.

The problems on the main on your road where nothing to do with either the Electro fusion or butt welded joints in the pipe but due to surge pressures that werent picked up on at design stage. On maybe a dozen ocassions or more approx 6/8 Bar of pressure higher than max design pressure ended up in the line with the end result of bursts which ou had to put up with.

The box would have been properly sealed during construction stage and this is one of the things that is very tightly checked when the works are being snagged. If in the intervening period the box has been opened and not closed properly or even damaged by traffic it is hardly the fault of a contractor.

Measure the depth of the box from the footpath down to the crown of the meter plug and let me know what depth it is. It will reveal a lot.

NI Water is a professionally run organisation as we've seen over the past few years. If there is potential for a box to be damaged by traffic why put it in harms way?

Your wit and originality knows no bounds.

Where do you suggest that boundary boxes be placed? There cannot be placed in private property or on the carraigeway which only leaves the verge or footpath. They are not put in harms way as you put it but on some occassions they do get damaged. Have you ever seen a lorry parked on the footpath? It's also possible for water to get into them without them being damaged, it can be as simple as someone not closing them properly.

Poor management and tendering practices are well documented so it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that some contractors haven't a clue and got the work through shady deals.

Anyway as you seem to know what you're on about . On another point there is a severe lack of mains pressure in the house this morn and upstairs bogs are drained. Reduced pressure on mains due to maintenance work considering all was fine at midnight last night?

The water network is now like a sieve, it wasnt great before last year but the bad weather over the last two winters is highlighting the massive upgrade that is needed. The problem with your pressure is either due to the water having to be redirected to your house by a different direction in the network or the reservoir that services your area having a very low level which will affect either outflow or outpressure.

[Tony Baloney]

Before you rush to blame either NIW or there subcontractors there are a number of factors to be considered.

When was the main installed?

How did the water get into the boundary box? If it wasnt a leak inside the box then its certainly not the fault of NIW or there subcontractor if water has got inside the box.

What depth is the pipe from the box to your house?

A new main was installed on our road just three years ago to carry enough water into town for the growing number of houses about the town. For the following 18 months there were numerous  bursts where the water pressure couldn't be contained in the new pipes due to the welding on the joints or bursts in the connection to houses.  The water supply could be off at any time due to repairs. Thankfully, it seems to have stabilised.

If the box had been properly sealed there would have been no water inside it to freeze.

The pipe is at least 30 inches below the ground all the way in from the road.  All they had to do was to connect the new stopcock at the same level as before.

The problems on the main on your road where nothing to do with either the Electro fusion or butt welded joints in the pipe but due to surge pressures that werent picked up on at design stage. On maybe a dozen ocassions or more approx 6/8 Bar of pressure higher than max design pressure ended up in the line with the end result of bursts which ou had to put up with.

The box would have been properly sealed during construction stage and this is one of the things that is very tightly checked when the works are being snagged. If in the intervening period the box has been opened and not closed properly or even damaged by traffic it is hardly the fault of a contractor.

Measure the depth of the box from the footpath down to the crown of the meter plug and let me know what depth it is. It will reveal a lot.

NI Water is a professionally run organisation as we've seen over the past few years. If there is potential for a box to be damaged by traffic why put it in harms way?

Your wit and originality knows no bounds.

Where do you suggest that boundary boxes be placed? There cannot be placed in private property or on the carraigeway which only leaves the verge or footpath. They are not put in harms way as you put it but on some occassions they do get damaged. Have you ever seen a lorry parked on the footpath? It's also possible for water to get into them without them being damaged, it can be as simple as someone not closing them properly.

Poor management and tendering practices are well documented so it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that some contractors haven't a clue and got the work through shady deals.

Anyway as you seem to know what you're on about . On another point there is a severe lack of mains pressure in the house this morn and upstairs bogs are drained. Reduced pressure on mains due to maintenance work considering all was fine at midnight last night?

The water network is now like a sieve, it wasnt great before last year but the bad weather over the last two winters is highlighting the massive upgrade that is needed. The problem with your pressure is either due to the water having to be redirected to your house by a different direction in the network or the reservoir that services your area having a very low level which will affect either outflow or outpressure.

Was talking to a neighbour there and Clay Lake has pretty much dried up. No water at all on our road.

I'm sure youse would offer them a good price for an upgrade

[Muzz]

No water in my part of the Ormeau Road, was off last night as well

Square - Where on Ormeau Road are you?  Before or after the bridge?

Ive been without water for a week now.  I called NI Water they said theyd send someone within 12 hours.  Never heard a thing.  Thought it must have been frozen pipes in my house as the rest of the street had water.  Done a bit more investigating today - seems that I have my own supply as im the only one with a toby.  Turned the toby off disconnected the pipe turned it back on...no water.  So it is a problem with NI Water.  Tried ringing them all day - phone is engaged. 

Share of!

[Square Ball]

on the top half Muzz, been trying for 4 hurs to get through to NI water but no joy, looks as if the whole of South Belfast is out of water

[Muzz]

My street just after the bridge all has water except me!

Nightmare this.  I got through to them last week and they said theyd send someone out within 12 hours.  Didnt hear a dicky bird from them.

I think im in the same boat as a lot of people thinking it was frozen pipes and just leave the heating on and hope for the best.  But seems now that theres more issues that that.  Heating on all week has cost me £40 in gas in 5 days.  Defo no pipes frozen by this stage.  So has to be on the outside.

[Tony Baloney]

My street just after the bridge all has water except me!

Nightmare this.  I got through to them last week and they said theyd send someone out within 12 hours.  Didnt hear a dicky bird from them.

I think im in the same boat as a lot of people thinking it was frozen pipes and just leave the heating on and hope for the best.  But seems now that theres more issues that that.  Heating on all week has cost me £40 in gas in 5 days.  Defo no pipes frozen by this stage.  So has to be on the outside.

Their phoneline was being slated by Barry McElduff yesterday. There is a special MLA hotline and he reckons it's off the hook. They knew this was coming so why didn't they get enough lines available to service the Waterline?!