Antrim Hurling

[Seamroga in exile]

I have never wondered why because it's not true. And really, like yourself, could care less.  All I care about are the trophies on display in Fr. Healy park, which are quite abundant at the minute, unlike your own club.

[pdiddy]

I have never wondered why because it's not true. And really, like yourself, could care less.  All I care about are the trophies on display in Fr. Healy park, which are quite abundant at the minute, unlike your own club.

Jeesus sie, sometimes you even make me cringe.

[north_antrim_hound]

I have never wondered why because it's not true. And really, like yourself, could care less.  All I care about are the trophies on display in Fr. Healy park, which are quite abundant at the minute, unlike your own club.

quite abundant, could you list them for me please as i can only think off one. you will have to wind back ten years into the last century before medals and cups where plentiful. funny i never even thought of bringing this subject up seeing as up to last year things where pretty barren over your way and i thought it might be ignorant. this is my last correspondence on the subject to you as your last post would suggest your not well enough informed for a serious debate. good luck the in final and if you win it well done, its a pity these wishes and compliments weren't precipitated over the years.

[Seamroga in exile]

I'm in a bad mood pdiddy, I can't get the Monday after the final off work!

[wino]

Can we talk about hurling rather than who hates who the most.
what about this weekend - lughgiel not really tested yet. Rossa put it up to them a bit but loughgiel didn't really get going. Ballycatle didn't test them at all and loughgiel didn't need to get out of 2nd gear. The sendings off just made it easier.
Cushendall never looked in much danger against oisin although their keeper pulled off a save to prevent the draw, they always looked the better team. Galls are full of great athletes but only half of them would be good enough hurlers. Great fielders, great at closing down and very competitive and they play to their strength's very well, but in the end they weren't good enough to beat Cushendall when they eventually got going. In my opinion the 2 best teams are in the final. Cushendall seem to have the most to do esp without nmcm but they have some real quality and are sure to be out for revenge after losing out by 1 last year. The very sight of a red jersey is enough to get them going. Loughgiel will probably be favourites but can take nothing for granted. They too have some real quality and a well drilled defence will make it difficult for any team. Who will win, hard to call, I suppose its down to who turns up on the day.

[pdiddy]

I'm in a bad mood pdiddy, I can't get the Monday after the final off work!

Eh??? Mon and Tues booked off actually.

[gelvis]

Can we talk about hurling rather than who hates who the most.
what about this weekend - lughgiel not really tested yet. Rossa put it up to them a bit but loughgiel didn't really get going. Ballycatle didn't test them at all and loughgiel didn't need to get out of 2nd gear. The sendings off just made it easier.
Cushendall never looked in much danger against oisin although their keeper pulled off a save to prevent the draw, they always looked the better team. Galls are full of great athletes but only half of them would be good enough hurlers. Great fielders, great at closing down and very competitive and they play to their strength's very well, but in the end they weren't good enough to beat Cushendall when they eventually got going. In my opinion the 2 best teams are in the final. Cushendall seem to have the most to do esp without nmcm but they have some real quality and are sure to be out for revenge after losing out by 1 last year. The very sight of a red jersey is enough to get them going. Loughgiel will probably be favourites but can take nothing for granted. They too have some real quality and a well drilled defence will make it difficult for any team. Who will win, hard to call, I suppose its down to who turns up on the day.

Yeah, shake your d**ks off lads, this pissin contest is over.  Tiresome or what? 

Cushendall couldn't have played much worse yesterday but still got the job done.  Got the rub of the green with the last goal alright.  Karl McKeegan fairly stepped up when they needed a leader.  Would have liked to see how St Galls got on in the final as their workrate was unbelievable and would have been nice to see.  Can't help thinking this is the way any of our clubs need to go in the All Ireland series to have any sort of success. 
As for the teams we have in the final I think Loughgiel would be the favourites.  Cushendall havn't got going yet and I'm not sure if they even look like they can step it up this year...but what more motivation do they need than a chance to redeem themselves after last year?  Might not have the quality of the last few years, but there's plenty of excitement in this years championship!

[Milltown Row2]

Off on a different topic, what's your thoughts on the advantage rule? A few games this year I have noticed that it's not working. Advantage is fine when a player is running in on goal and is being fouled but the referee allows the lad a few extra steps and he plants the ball into the net or off loads to a another player who scores.

Problem for me is when a defender is coming out with the ball and is being hauled, he makes a half clearance and the ball is then won by the opposition!! Would it not be better to blow and the defender clears with a 70 yard free?

I'm all for free flowing hurling but when an advantage becomes a disadvantage it's daft.

I've refereed a few games and it's hard to get it right all the time and keep the players happy. So a couple of things I'd like to see done.

Advantage rule applies only in a forward position (midfield up)

Referee can call play back (like rugby) if, after 4/5 seconds there is no advantage

[btdtgtt]

MR2 I am forwarding your details to Croke park and RTE! Could not agree more with your post on advantage rule! And for my added tuppence - I think it's abused by refs to slant results!

[pdiddy]

Off on a different topic, what's your thoughts on the advantage rule? A few games this year I have noticed that it's not working. Advantage is fine when a player is running in on goal and is being fouled but the referee allows the lad a few extra steps and he plants the ball into the net or off loads to a another player who scores.

Problem for me is when a defender is coming out with the ball and is being hauled, he makes a half clearance and the ball is then won by the opposition!! Would it not be better to blow and the defender clears with a 70 yard free?
Yoy gT
I'm all for free flowing hurling but when an advantage becomes a disadvantage it's daft.

I've refereed a few games and it's hard to get it right all the time and keep the players happy. So a couple of things I'd like to see done.

Advantage rule applies only in a forward position (midfield up)

Referee can call play back (like rugby) if, after 4/5 seconds there is no advantage

I like the idea mr2. St galls man I was standing beside at the match on sunday seemed to have a similar view. I wonder was I standing beside the infamous mr2 and didn't realise it :-o

[clootfromthe21]

from BreakingNews.ie

Current Antrim Senior Hurling manager Dinny Cahill is being challenged for his position after two other nominations for the role were submitted.

Ex Antrim trainer Jerry Wallace and former Down hurling manager John Crossey have both been nominated for the role, along with Cahill.

The Tipperary native is in his second stint at the helm with the Saffrons having succeeded the joint managerial duo of Dominic McKinley and Terence McNaughton in 2010.

During that campaign Cahill was assisted by Wallace, but the Cork native resumed his partnership with Donal O'Grady this year in Limerick, with the Shannonsiders claiming Division 2 league silverware.

Crossey took charge of Antrim's minor hurlers this year, where they lost by 38 points in the All-Ireland quarter-final to Galway after capturing Ulster honours thanks to a slender final win over Armagh.

The Belfast native has been a contender for the Antrim Senior role in the past.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/nominations-made-for-antrim-hurling-post-520223.html#ixzz1XlWdRTqa

[4father]

Yes, good idea MR2.  The advantage being at the discretion of the referee is a great idea just like in rugby but as long as some players aren't using it (also like in rugby).  for example if a full back is coming out with the ball and is tugged back or slapped but he gets a hand pass away to another player, when does the advantage be over?

If the receiving player attempts to run past a player and fails, will it be a free for the earlier foul?  He did have the advantage. 

Either way, i think its a great idea and you should propose it as a motion to your AGM to bring to county convention to bring to the higher echelons (once you've thought it through of course)

[north_antrim_hound]

Off on a different topic, what's your thoughts on the advantage rule? A few games this year I have noticed that it's not working. Advantage is fine when a player is running in on goal and is being fouled but the referee allows the lad a few extra steps and he plants the ball into the net or off loads to a another player who scores.

Problem for me is when a defender is coming out with the ball and is being hauled, he makes a half clearance and the ball is then won by the opposition!! Would it not be better to blow and the defender clears with a 70 yard free?

I'm all for free flowing hurling but when an advantage becomes a disadvantage it's daft.

very good point, no better example than this years all ireland Pauric Maher is the one tipp player in their half back line that gets good ball into forwards but kilkenny forwards where hanging out of him this year when he was coming out with it so he was less effective with his deliveries. word of warning but Brian Cody is on the rules committee for hurling down there and theres a bit of an uproar as his influence could benefit Teams that specialise in cute dragging and pulling. Intresting stuff

[theskull1]

I thought P Maher especially against Dublin was looking for and got plenty of frees but gavin wasn't having it

[north_antrim_hound]

I thought P Maher especially against Dublin was looking for and got plenty of frees but gavin wasn't having it

yeah he  did go down very handy when bottled up but I'm referring to the times when hes was coming out with the ball and being held back. happend to tipp midfielders as well. everyone is complimenting the job done on corbet and Kelly by cats full backline but if get a chance look at last years match to this one, look at the quality of ball going in, bread and butter for good full backs which hickey and tyrrell are. tipps guys couldn't get striking while on the front foot due to sometimes borderling line restraint. fair play to cody for this game plan. I'm only using this as an example for the point MR2 IS bringing up.