Ulster Football - The New Order

JMohan · June 28, 2009, 04:11:37 PM

Quote from: Maguire01 on June 28, 2009, 03:58:37 PM
Quote from: JMohan on June 28, 2009, 02:25:29 PM
League results are the refuge of desperation

We all acknowledge Championship is all that matters!
So what, we base everything on 1 game?

eh 2 ?

lol!

JMohan · June 28, 2009, 04:13:14 PM

Quote from: Maguire01 on June 28, 2009, 04:01:58 PM
Quote from: JMohan on June 28, 2009, 02:58:17 PM
You have to put Antrim higher - they've produced it on Championship sundays - that's all that matters boys
Actually they've on produced it on one Sunday. Yesterday was Saturday. Prior to these two matches, when was the last time they've produced it on a Championship Sunday (or Saturday)?

Anyway, they've produced the goods against a fading Donegal side and a brutal Cavan effort. I'm not trying to undermine Antrim's achievements - they've come on in leaps and bounds... but let's have a bit of perspective.

Fair enough if you want to look at league and McKenna cup - but the reality is that Championship is all that matters ... but anyway.

Maguire01 · June 28, 2009, 04:36:42 PM

Quote from: JMohan on June 28, 2009, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 28, 2009, 03:58:37 PM
Quote from: JMohan on June 28, 2009, 02:25:29 PM
League results are the refuge of desperation

We all acknowledge Championship is all that matters!
So what, we base everything on 1 game?
eh 2 ?
lol!

I was referring to Armagh. They've played one game.

Maguire01 · June 28, 2009, 04:39:21 PM

Quote from: JMohan on June 28, 2009, 04:13:14 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 28, 2009, 04:01:58 PM
Quote from: JMohan on June 28, 2009, 02:58:17 PM
You have to put Antrim higher - they've produced it on Championship sundays - that's all that matters boys
Actually they've on produced it on one Sunday. Yesterday was Saturday. Prior to these two matches, when was the last time they've produced it on a Championship Sunday (or Saturday)?

Anyway, they've produced the goods against a fading Donegal side and a brutal Cavan effort. I'm not trying to undermine Antrim's achievements - they've come on in leaps and bounds... but let's have a bit of perspective.
Fair enough if you want to look at league and McKenna cup - but the reality is that Championship is all that matters ... but anyway.

I'm basing nothing on the McKenna Cup - now you're taking the p*ss!

My point is that the 2009 Championship is young - it's hard to really get an good idea of where exactly some teams are at based on one or at most, two games. If the league is no help, do we go back to last year's Ulster Championship where Down beat Tyrone and Cavan beat Antrim? I don't think so.

JMohan · June 28, 2009, 04:39:29 PM

Just like Monaghan! lol!

JMohan · June 28, 2009, 04:41:34 PM

Quote from: Maguire01 on June 28, 2009, 04:39:21 PM
Quote from: JMohan on June 28, 2009, 04:13:14 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 28, 2009, 04:01:58 PM
Quote from: JMohan on June 28, 2009, 02:58:17 PM
You have to put Antrim higher - they've produced it on Championship sundays - that's all that matters boys
Actually they've on produced it on one Sunday. Yesterday was Saturday. Prior to these two matches, when was the last time they've produced it on a Championship Sunday (or Saturday)?

Anyway, they've produced the goods against a fading Donegal side and a brutal Cavan effort. I'm not trying to undermine Antrim's achievements - they've come on in leaps and bounds... but let's have a bit of perspective.
Fair enough if you want to look at league and McKenna cup - but the reality is that Championship is all that matters ... but anyway.
I'm basing nothing on the McKenna Cup - now you're taking the p*ss!

My point is that the 2009 Championship is young - it's hard to really get an good idea of where exactly some teams are at based on one or at most, two games. If the league is no help, do we go back to last year's Ulster Championship where Down beat Tyrone and Cavan beat Antrim? I don't think so.

I'm just winding you up....

But you have to admit ... this year so far ... based on Championship results ... Antrim are the second best team in Ulster!

If you go back to League it is different sure .... but let them have their day in the sun!

DennistheMenace · June 28, 2009, 04:43:41 PM

League football is rubbish in general.

JMohan · June 28, 2009, 04:44:15 PM

Quote from: hardstation on June 28, 2009, 04:42:33 PM
No Ulster team beat us in the league.

Good stuff ... Gwan ye good thing!

Come on Maguire ... pressure is on ...

change the order ... !

Maguire01 · June 28, 2009, 05:18:04 PM

Quote from: JMohan on June 28, 2009, 04:41:34 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 28, 2009, 04:39:21 PM
Quote from: JMohan on June 28, 2009, 04:13:14 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 28, 2009, 04:01:58 PM
Quote from: JMohan on June 28, 2009, 02:58:17 PM
You have to put Antrim higher - they've produced it on Championship sundays - that's all that matters boys
Actually they've on produced it on one Sunday. Yesterday was Saturday. Prior to these two matches, when was the last time they've produced it on a Championship Sunday (or Saturday)?

Anyway, they've produced the goods against a fading Donegal side and a brutal Cavan effort. I'm not trying to undermine Antrim's achievements - they've come on in leaps and bounds... but let's have a bit of perspective.
Fair enough if you want to look at league and McKenna cup - but the reality is that Championship is all that matters ... but anyway.
I'm basing nothing on the McKenna Cup - now you're taking the p*ss!

My point is that the 2009 Championship is young - it's hard to really get an good idea of where exactly some teams are at based on one or at most, two games. If the league is no help, do we go back to last year's Ulster Championship where Down beat Tyrone and Cavan beat Antrim? I don't think so.
I'm just winding you up....

But you have to admit ... this year so far ... based on Championship results ... Antrim are the second best team in Ulster!

If you go back to League it is different sure .... but let them have their day in the sun!

Don't worry - i'm not taking it to heart!

But seriously, there was clearly one easy side of the draw. The 2 best teams don't necessarily make the Ulster Final - the best team from each side of the draw generally does.
As for Antrim - I was there last night cheering them on and am delighted they've reached the final. After Monaghan, then Fermanagh, i'd be backing Antrim all the way.

Maguire01 · June 28, 2009, 05:18:52 PM

Quote from: hardstation on June 28, 2009, 04:42:33 PM
No Ulster team beat us in the league.

That's because you were the only team bringing Division 4 shame on the province.

Maguire01 · June 28, 2009, 05:20:49 PM

Quote from: JMohan on June 28, 2009, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 28, 2009, 04:42:33 PM
No Ulster team beat us in the league.

Good stuff ... Gwan ye good thing!

Come on Maguire ... pressure is on ... change the order ... !

Here, my order wasn't the definitive list - I was just getting the ball rolling, rather than starting a topic, asking a question and being accused of sitting on the fence!

fred the red · July 23, 2009, 03:44:43 PM

well whats peoples order now? Mine would be something like this:

Tyrone

Donegal
Derry/Antrim

Fermanagh/Monaghan

Down
Armagh
Cavan

eireogatron · July 23, 2009, 03:56:49 PM

Quote from: fred the red on July 23, 2009, 03:44:43 PM
well whats peoples order now? Mine would be something like this:

Tyrone

Donegal
Derry/Antrim

Fermanagh/Monaghan

Down
Armagh
Cavan

phhfffffffffffffftt!

fred the red · July 23, 2009, 04:00:17 PM

Quote from: eireogatron on July 23, 2009, 03:56:49 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 23, 2009, 03:44:43 PM
well whats peoples order now? Mine would be something like this:

Tyrone

Donegal
Derry/Antrim

Fermanagh/Monaghan

Down
Armagh
Cavan

phhfffffffffffffftt!

cavan4ever · July 23, 2009, 04:01:25 PM

Tyrone
Derry
Monaghan
Armagh
Donegal
Antriml
Down/Fermangh/Cavan all as bad as the other