The Many Faces of US Politics...

[heganboy]

Oh no no no.  Thank You!

[muppet]

Maybe your pal Rev Al can organize a protest March........oh wait.......hes currently under investigation for owing the IRS $4M......we need those 1 percenters to pay their fair share and all that

With the Garner family bringing a civil case of $70 million against the state you have to wonder why the Rev gets involved.
I'm sure there will be a case from the Brown family in the near future too.

If he gets a % it could solve a few issues for him financially. But surely he's not in this game for the money and power

Wow. So it was a masterstroke by Garner to get money for his family and Whitey's pal, Sharpton.

[Eamonnca1]

Conservatives on foreign policy: "Something something something something something Benghazi."

Conservatives on health care reform: "Something something something something something something socialism."

Conservatives on race relations: "Something something something something something something Al Sharpton."

[omaghjoe]

Sitting with a beer reading foxcommander and whitey whilst watching the second bowl game. While the game is entertaining it has nothing on you two. Please keep your insight and revelations coming. I am learning soooooo much.

To be fair heganboy i'm not sure i would trust anyone's opinion who thinks American football is entertaining.

[lynchbhoy]

Wish folks were as concerned about the ruc and their shoot to kill policy on innocent Irish/ Catholics/ Irish a number of years ago!
But I suppose it's ok as the ruc weren't racist!!

[J70]

Have you ever jaywalked? Drove over the speed limit? Sold a match or concert ticket? Bought something on Amazon and not paid the tax?

That's the level of law breaking Eric Garner was involved in. Worth a ticket at most.

And the resisting arrest amounted to waving his hands and telling them to leave him alone.

Menace to society he was!

Relevant to that moment in time is that he was breaking the law. Now I don't know if this was the very first time he sold stuff on the streets or whether he was a serial offender but if he was known to police then maybe he already had a few warnings.

If he was goading the police to leave him alone while he was undertaking this venture then you won't expect favourable treatment surely? If the police don't arrest him then it would appear that they condone such behavior and then it's open season. Can you let things slide like that? That's how you create no-go areas.

That's what tickets are for. Common sense has to come into it, and these cops demonstrated none. There was no threat to the public here. Any idiot should know that "tackling" a large, obese man like that is asking for trouble. There are limits to how far police can go in apprehending people. Choking and pushing a man's head into the pavement over loose cigarettes is just insane.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/11/nyregion/author-of-broken-windows-policing-defends-his-theory.html?_r=0

Ok... Not sure if you're arguing for, against or agreeing with my post based on that article!

The sentiment is that if you allow smaller crimes to happen under your watch you'll see bigger ones emerging.
Zero tolerance is the only way to go.

Most graffiti works are eyesores but I suppose it encourages those types to try and spell things correctly.

I'm well aware of broken windows and zero tolerance theories, thanks.

I'm still not sure whether, from that particular article,  whitey was commenting for or against my statement.

[J70]

Yes. How dare I turn a race issue into a race issue.

keep em coming....the man's daughter, wife and mother ALL said it had nothing to do with race.

Here are some links with direct quotes if you need proof

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/12/04/eric-garners-daughter-on-her-fathers-death-this-is-not-a-black-and-white-issue/


http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/12/eric_garner_s_mom_death_wasn_t_about_race_it_was_a_thrill_kill.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/7/garners-widow-says-husband-was-targeted-illegally-/?page=all

With all due respect, how does Eric Garner's family know what Pantaleo's motivation was?

Regardless of his motivation,  yet another unarmed,  unthreatening black man is dead at the hands of cops.

[foxcommander]

Yes. How dare I turn a race issue into a race issue.

keep em coming....the man's daughter, wife and mother ALL said it had nothing to do with race.

Here are some links with direct quotes if you need proof

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/12/04/eric-garners-daughter-on-her-fathers-death-this-is-not-a-black-and-white-issue/


http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/12/eric_garner_s_mom_death_wasn_t_about_race_it_was_a_thrill_kill.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/7/garners-widow-says-husband-was-targeted-illegally-/?page=all

With all due respect, how does Eric Garner's family know what Pantaleo's motivation was?

Regardless of his motivation,  yet another unarmed,  unthreatening black man is dead at the hands of cops.

again, why are you bringing skin colour into this? Is your problem with the police or are you trying to create a racial issue? Would you be making a fuss about this particular case if he was white? Would Al Sharpton?

[J70]

Yes. How dare I turn a race issue into a race issue.

keep em coming....the man's daughter, wife and mother ALL said it had nothing to do with race.

Here are some links with direct quotes if you need proof

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/12/04/eric-garners-daughter-on-her-fathers-death-this-is-not-a-black-and-white-issue/


http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/12/eric_garner_s_mom_death_wasn_t_about_race_it_was_a_thrill_kill.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/7/garners-widow-says-husband-was-targeted-illegally-/?page=all

With all due respect, how does Eric Garner's family know what Pantaleo's motivation was?

Regardless of his motivation,  yet another unarmed,  unthreatening black man is dead at the hands of cops.

again, why are you bringing skin colour into this? Is your problem with the police or are you trying to create a racial issue? Would you be making a fuss about this particular case if he was white? Would Al Sharpton?

It there was a pattern of police killing unarmed white people, then of course people would be making an issue of it. Wouldn't you, as a white person, be concerned? Who was the last unarmed white male shot dead by a trigger happy cop when he stepped into a dark stairwell? Who was the last white man, shot while out shopping in Walmart, just because he was holding a BB gun he had just picked up off the shelf?

Al Sharpton is an advocate for his community, the community who are at higher risk of being killed in this manner. If the problem was white people being killed, I'm sure an advocate would come forward. The racial issue exists - no one is creating it. Society is suspicious of black males. They don't get the benefit of the doubt that the rest of us get, and that's including from cops.

You'd swear Sharpton was the big problem here, the way some of you boys seem fixated on him!

[whitey]

Yes. How dare I turn a race issue into a race issue.

keep em coming....the man's daughter, wife and mother ALL said it had nothing to do with race.

Here are some links with direct quotes if you need proof

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/12/04/eric-garners-daughter-on-her-fathers-death-this-is-not-a-black-and-white-issue/


http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/12/eric_garner_s_mom_death_wasn_t_about_race_it_was_a_thrill_kill.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/7/garners-widow-says-husband-was-targeted-illegally-/?page=all

With all due respect, how does Eric Garner's family know what Pantaleo's motivation was?

Regardless of his motivation,  yet another unarmed,  unthreatening black man is dead at the hands of cops.

LOL...you're kidding right?? 

If any group of people in the entire universe were uniquely qualified to give an educated opinion, it would be his immediate family members.

They obviously know Eric Garners personality....They obviously know of his prior arrests....They obviously know of his health issues...

[Eamonnca1]

why are you bringing skin colour into this?

Guess.

[gallsman]

Wish folks were as concerned about the ruc and their shoot to kill policy on innocent Irish/ Catholics/ Irish a number of years ago!
But I suppose it's ok as the ruc weren't racist!!

That's a very, very bizarre and, frankly, slightly grotesque, statement to make. Catch yourself on.

[heganboy]

Wish folks were as concerned about the ruc and their shoot to kill policy

you don't think folks were concerned about police shoot to kill policies?
hmmm, interesting.

[heganboy]

I'm well aware of broken windows and zero tolerance theories, thanks.

I'm still not sure whether, from that particular article,  whitey was commenting for or against my statement.

neither is he, he may just googled broken window policing. The article actually questions the social and moral implications of such a policy, not whether it is effective, but no matter, he's very well read that Whitey fella!

[J70]

Yes. How dare I turn a race issue into a race issue.

keep em coming....the man's daughter, wife and mother ALL said it had nothing to do with race.

Here are some links with direct quotes if you need proof

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/12/04/eric-garners-daughter-on-her-fathers-death-this-is-not-a-black-and-white-issue/


http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/12/eric_garner_s_mom_death_wasn_t_about_race_it_was_a_thrill_kill.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/7/garners-widow-says-husband-was-targeted-illegally-/?page=all

With all due respect, how does Eric Garner's family know what Pantaleo's motivation was?

Regardless of his motivation,  yet another unarmed,  unthreatening black man is dead at the hands of cops.

LOL...you're kidding right?? 

If any group of people in the entire universe were uniquely qualified to give an educated opinion, it would be his immediate family members.

They obviously know Eric Garners personality....They obviously know of his prior arrests....They obviously know of his health issues...

What does any of that have to do with Pantaleo's actions? Little-man syndrome or racist, how can they know?

Pantaleo's family and friends and colleagues -  their honest opinion might be somewhat relevant.