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[Gmac]

Watching cnn and their talking about trump encouraging violent protests while a cop was shot in the background in Louisville, what a sc**bag news station .

Right, and if Biden was doing the talking Trump currently is celebrating a journalist being shot by police with a rubber bullet, about not accepting the election results, about not pledging a peaceful transition, and his campaign talking about certain states replacing the public's chosen electors with GOP-chosen electors, you would be on here frothing at the mouth about Biden fomenting violence.

What happened in Louisville to the cops is wrong, but so was what happened to Breonna Taylor.

Difference is that someone has been arrested and will be held accountable in one case, but not the other. In Ms. Taylor's case, its simply a case of "shit happens". Once again.

the cops were shot at first and one hit should they have ran away ?

Yes, there were no other options available. No mistakes were made, no misconduct occurred, either before, during or after the proceedings. Wildly and blindly shooting through the walls and doors of two apartments in the middle of the night and ignoring the mortally wounded victim were the only available and justifiable responses.

they were looking for a drug dealer who had this apartment listed as an address, they had a no knock warrant but they did knock and announced themselves after which they were fired at and returned fire tragically killing the innocent girl inside , my question is there are at least 10 shootings weekly we hear about where innocent people (mostly black) are shot in the crossfire including kids but none of those victims are celebrated, there are no marches , no protests. As the law stands they were justified in returning fire  except for cop who shot into another apartment.

How do you know they announced themselves?

Supposedly they had no body cameras.

Its their word against Walker's. He claims he thought it was the ex-boyfriend or burglars trying to bust in. An ex-boyfriend who had been arrested across town before any of this shit went down and they riddled two apartments with bullets like some mob hit. If all that's legal except for the other apartment, then the law is an ass.

As for those killed in the crossfire of gang wars and so on, they're killed by criminals, NOT agents of the state who are supposed to be the good guys representing and protecting everyone. And despite conservative whataboutery, there are many, many people, politicians and organizations working 24/7 to make things better. And even if there weren't, that still wouldn't invalidate the protests.

there are witnesses who backed up the police account of what happened.

[J70]

Watching cnn and their talking about trump encouraging violent protests while a cop was shot in the background in Louisville, what a sc**bag news station .

Right, and if Biden was doing the talking Trump currently is celebrating a journalist being shot by police with a rubber bullet, about not accepting the election results, about not pledging a peaceful transition, and his campaign talking about certain states replacing the public's chosen electors with GOP-chosen electors, you would be on here frothing at the mouth about Biden fomenting violence.

What happened in Louisville to the cops is wrong, but so was what happened to Breonna Taylor.

Difference is that someone has been arrested and will be held accountable in one case, but not the other. In Ms. Taylor's case, its simply a case of "shit happens". Once again.

the cops were shot at first and one hit should they have ran away ?

Yes, there were no other options available. No mistakes were made, no misconduct occurred, either before, during or after the proceedings. Wildly and blindly shooting through the walls and doors of two apartments in the middle of the night and ignoring the mortally wounded victim were the only available and justifiable responses.

they were looking for a drug dealer who had this apartment listed as an address, they had a no knock warrant but they did knock and announced themselves after which they were fired at and returned fire tragically killing the innocent girl inside , my question is there are at least 10 shootings weekly we hear about where innocent people (mostly black) are shot in the crossfire including kids but none of those victims are celebrated, there are no marches , no protests. As the law stands they were justified in returning fire  except for cop who shot into another apartment.

How do you know they announced themselves?

Supposedly they had no body cameras.

Its their word against Walker's. He claims he thought it was the ex-boyfriend or burglars trying to bust in. An ex-boyfriend who had been arrested across town before any of this shit went down and they riddled two apartments with bullets like some mob hit. If all that's legal except for the other apartment, then the law is an ass.

As for those killed in the crossfire of gang wars and so on, they're killed by criminals, NOT agents of the state who are supposed to be the good guys representing and protecting everyone. And despite conservative whataboutery, there are many, many people, politicians and organizations working 24/7 to make things better. And even if there weren't, that still wouldn't invalidate the protests.

there are witnesses who backed up the police account of what happened.

There's one witness. And a dozen more who say they DIDN'T hear the supposed announcement.

Yet again, body cams would solve the problem. But, we can't have that, can we?

[Gmac]

Watching cnn and their talking about trump encouraging violent protests while a cop was shot in the background in Louisville, what a sc**bag news station .

Right, and if Biden was doing the talking Trump currently is celebrating a journalist being shot by police with a rubber bullet, about not accepting the election results, about not pledging a peaceful transition, and his campaign talking about certain states replacing the public's chosen electors with GOP-chosen electors, you would be on here frothing at the mouth about Biden fomenting violence.

What happened in Louisville to the cops is wrong, but so was what happened to Breonna Taylor.

Difference is that someone has been arrested and will be held accountable in one case, but not the other. In Ms. Taylor's case, its simply a case of "shit happens". Once again.

the cops were shot at first and one hit should they have ran away ?

Yes, there were no other options available. No mistakes were made, no misconduct occurred, either before, during or after the proceedings. Wildly and blindly shooting through the walls and doors of two apartments in the middle of the night and ignoring the mortally wounded victim were the only available and justifiable responses.

they were looking for a drug dealer who had this apartment listed as an address, they had a no knock warrant but they did knock and announced themselves after which they were fired at and returned fire tragically killing the innocent girl inside , my question is there are at least 10 shootings weekly we hear about where innocent people (mostly black) are shot in the crossfire including kids but none of those victims are celebrated, there are no marches , no protests. As the law stands they were justified in returning fire  except for cop who shot into another apartment.

How do you know they announced themselves?

Supposedly they had no body cameras.

Its their word against Walker's. He claims he thought it was the ex-boyfriend or burglars trying to bust in. An ex-boyfriend who had been arrested across town before any of this shit went down and they riddled two apartments with bullets like some mob hit. If all that's legal except for the other apartment, then the law is an ass.

As for those killed in the crossfire of gang wars and so on, they're killed by criminals, NOT agents of the state who are supposed to be the good guys representing and protecting everyone. And despite conservative whataboutery, there are many, many people, politicians and organizations working 24/7 to make things better. And even if there weren't, that still wouldn't invalidate the protests.

there are witnesses who backed up the police account of what happened.

There's one witness. And a dozen more who say they DIDN'T hear the supposed announcement.

Yet again, body cams would solve the problem. But, we can't have that, can we?

maybe the Louisville pd can't afford them but they should defund them anyway , maybe they should hire a pimp to serve the warrant next time like Seattle are doing .

[J70]

Watching cnn and their talking about trump encouraging violent protests while a cop was shot in the background in Louisville, what a sc**bag news station .

Right, and if Biden was doing the talking Trump currently is celebrating a journalist being shot by police with a rubber bullet, about not accepting the election results, about not pledging a peaceful transition, and his campaign talking about certain states replacing the public's chosen electors with GOP-chosen electors, you would be on here frothing at the mouth about Biden fomenting violence.

What happened in Louisville to the cops is wrong, but so was what happened to Breonna Taylor.

Difference is that someone has been arrested and will be held accountable in one case, but not the other. In Ms. Taylor's case, its simply a case of "shit happens". Once again.

the cops were shot at first and one hit should they have ran away ?

Yes, there were no other options available. No mistakes were made, no misconduct occurred, either before, during or after the proceedings. Wildly and blindly shooting through the walls and doors of two apartments in the middle of the night and ignoring the mortally wounded victim were the only available and justifiable responses.

they were looking for a drug dealer who had this apartment listed as an address, they had a no knock warrant but they did knock and announced themselves after which they were fired at and returned fire tragically killing the innocent girl inside , my question is there are at least 10 shootings weekly we hear about where innocent people (mostly black) are shot in the crossfire including kids but none of those victims are celebrated, there are no marches , no protests. As the law stands they were justified in returning fire  except for cop who shot into another apartment.

How do you know they announced themselves?

Supposedly they had no body cameras.

Its their word against Walker's. He claims he thought it was the ex-boyfriend or burglars trying to bust in. An ex-boyfriend who had been arrested across town before any of this shit went down and they riddled two apartments with bullets like some mob hit. If all that's legal except for the other apartment, then the law is an ass.

As for those killed in the crossfire of gang wars and so on, they're killed by criminals, NOT agents of the state who are supposed to be the good guys representing and protecting everyone. And despite conservative whataboutery, there are many, many people, politicians and organizations working 24/7 to make things better. And even if there weren't, that still wouldn't invalidate the protests.

there are witnesses who backed up the police account of what happened.

There's one witness. And a dozen more who say they DIDN'T hear the supposed announcement.

Yet again, body cams would solve the problem. But, we can't have that, can we?

maybe the Louisville pd can't afford them but they should defund them anyway , maybe they should hire a pimp to serve the warrant next time like Seattle are doing .

1. You brought up the ex-pimp in Seattle. What problem do you have the work he's done there and what he's being charged to do?
2. Louisville PD was not defunded. And I seriously doubt any redirecting of certain police work to other, more suitable agencies is going to eat into budgets for body cams.

[sid waddell]

How the fook do white supremacists expect some black people to react when white America keeps kicking the black community in the teeth with impunity, when white police officers keep wantonly murdering black people and getting away scot free?

The problem is white supremacist police impunity, lack of accountability - not black anger

Police forces in the US are acting like white supremacist terrorists, and little wonder, there is widespread infiltration of them by white supremacist terrorists

The black anger is totally and utterly justified

White supremacism has no legitimate reason for existence, yet Trump is openly inciting armed Nazi terrorist mobs to roam the streets

[Eamonnca1]

Watching cnn and their talking about trump encouraging violent protests while a cop was shot in the background in Louisville, what a sc**bag news station .

Hey now. Was he shot in self defense? Did he have priors? Was weed found in his home? What did he do to provoke being shot? We don't know all the facts just yet, so let's not rush to judgment.

[Gmac]

Watching cnn and their talking about trump encouraging violent protests while a cop was shot in the background in Louisville, what a sc**bag news station .

Right, and if Biden was doing the talking Trump currently is celebrating a journalist being shot by police with a rubber bullet, about not accepting the election results, about not pledging a peaceful transition, and his campaign talking about certain states replacing the public's chosen electors with GOP-chosen electors, you would be on here frothing at the mouth about Biden fomenting violence.

What happened in Louisville to the cops is wrong, but so was what happened to Breonna Taylor.

Difference is that someone has been arrested and will be held accountable in one case, but not the other. In Ms. Taylor's case, its simply a case of "shit happens". Once again.

the cops were shot at first and one hit should they have ran away ?

Yes, there were no other options available. No mistakes were made, no misconduct occurred, either before, during or after the proceedings. Wildly and blindly shooting through the walls and doors of two apartments in the middle of the night and ignoring the mortally wounded victim were the only available and justifiable responses.

they were looking for a drug dealer who had this apartment listed as an address, they had a no knock warrant but they did knock and announced themselves after which they were fired at and returned fire tragically killing the innocent girl inside , my question is there are at least 10 shootings weekly we hear about where innocent people (mostly black) are shot in the crossfire including kids but none of those victims are celebrated, there are no marches , no protests. As the law stands they were justified in returning fire  except for cop who shot into another apartment.

How do you know they announced themselves?

Supposedly they had no body cameras.

Its their word against Walker's. He claims he thought it was the ex-boyfriend or burglars trying to bust in. An ex-boyfriend who had been arrested across town before any of this shit went down and they riddled two apartments with bullets like some mob hit. If all that's legal except for the other apartment, then the law is an ass.

As for those killed in the crossfire of gang wars and so on, they're killed by criminals, NOT agents of the state who are supposed to be the good guys representing and protecting everyone. And despite conservative whataboutery, there are many, many people, politicians and organizations working 24/7 to make things better. And even if there weren't, that still wouldn't invalidate the protests.

there are witnesses who backed up the police account of what happened.

There's one witness. And a dozen more who say they DIDN'T hear the supposed announcement.

Yet again, body cams would solve the problem. But, we can't have that, can we?

maybe the Louisville pd can't afford them but they should defund them anyway , maybe they should hire a pimp to serve the warrant next time like Seattle are doing .

1. You brought up the ex-pimp in Seattle. What problem do you have the work he's done there and what he's being charged to do?
2. Louisville PD was not defunded. And I seriously doubt any redirecting of certain police work to other, more suitable agencies is going to eat into budgets for body cams.

one thing I think is clear is serving warrants at 1am is a terrible idea.

[Gmac]

Watching cnn and their talking about trump encouraging violent protests while a cop was shot in the background in Louisville, what a sc**bag news station .

Hey now. Was he shot in self defense? Did he have priors? Was weed found in his home? What did he do to provoke being shot? We don't know all the facts just yet, so let's not rush to judgment.

2 cops actually and larynzo Johnson has been arrested and charged with 14 counts of endangerment on police officers, homeboy won't see the light of day again , hope it was worth it .
Both cops will be ok .

[Eamonnca1]

Leaked chat logs from an Oregon right-wing militia group detail members' discussions about stockpiling arms and ammunition, strategizing about how to spark violence at protests, and even advocating for attacking Democratic politicians. One of the group's most outspoken members advised the others to ignore weapons statutes and encouraged them to bring bats, mace, and stun guns to protests. Another member told group members not to freeze paintballs for maximum damage, but rather to invest in "glass breaker balls that are rubber coated metal." And yet another member advocated for "taking care of the justice ourselves" by going after "our DA and then move on to the governor."
Meanwhile, Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf testified to senators yesterday that white supremacist extremists pose the "most persistent and lethal threat" when it comes to domestic terrorism. Make no mistake: Trump is fueling the rise in right-wing extremism and political violence. The real threat to law and order is not Black Lives Matter protesters taking to the streets to demand justice, as Trump claims — it's the far-right militia members and vigilantes he is actively encouraging.

[Gmac]

Less than a week to first debate , will joe show ?

[Ball Hopper]

Less than a week to first debate , will joe show ?

There's no show like a Joe show.

[seafoid]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

[five points]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

That source's homepage 


https://fivethirtyeight.com/

[J70]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

That source's homepage 


https://fivethirtyeight.com/

And??

There is literally at least a dozen different pollng outfits listed as the source for 538's piece.

The graph shows the spread very nicely in green and orange.

[five points]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

That source's homepage 


https://fivethirtyeight.com/

And??

There is literally at least a dozen different pollng outfits listed as the source for 538's piece.

The graph shows the spread very nicely in green and orange.

Its homepage confirms that it's still a ridiculously partisan source. And in the US it's easy to find "at least a dozen" pollster sources that will say whatever you want them to say.