The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

[AZOffaly]

I'll give a f**k to be honest. Of course I'll take the goals, and I'll admire his workrate and all the rest, but I just can't be having him as a Liverpool 'hero'. Give me someone like Dirk Kuyt every time for that, and I was a fierce critic of Kuyt's technical ability.

The terms hero and legend are overused nowadays anyway and the fact is there are very few that actually live up to the name anyway.
I agree with BC1 that no one will care what has gone on if he starts banging in the goals. I won't anyway.
Yeah I'm sure some will lap it up if he starts kissing the badge and all that shite but fcuk it let him at it,anyone with an ounce of sense will see through it anyway but if he scores the goals that get Liverpool into the top 4 he can do what he wants as far as I'm concerned.

I agree that's what will happen, I'm just saying that for me he will never be a great Liverpool man. What Gerrard did was similar, but he has redeemed himself with his actions since then. Suarez will have to go some to do that.

Also, re the hero terminology, I suppose what I really mean is a loyal servant. The likes of which are obviously getting fewer and fewer, but Kuyt was one, Carragher obviously, etc etc. I suppose it's an unfortunate reality that the better players are the ones whose heads are more likely to be turned by big money because they will attract that sort of attention.  Liverpool need to get back in the CL pretty darn quickly. The next guy to go will be Coutinho if they don't.

[ludermor]

I know a lot of people are admiring Brendan Rogers for his stance on Suarez but i really am not so sure, Arsenal offer £40m for him and that is a shitload of money for a brilliant but troublesome character. Whether they rejected this money because they want to hold onto the player for the term of his contract or if they were hoping to start a bidding war i dont know but if he doesn't leave this window then Liverpool are putting a lot of faith in him performing as he has done for  all the while knowing he wants to leave.
If he acts the **** for the next year what will liverpool get for him next summer?

[Bingo]

I know a lot of people are admiring Brendan Rogers for his stance on Suarez but i really am not so sure, Arsenal offer £40m for him and that is a shitload of money for a brilliant but troublesome character. Whether they rejected this money because they want to hold onto the player for the term of his contract or if they were hoping to start a bidding war i dont know but if he doesn't leave this window then Liverpool are putting a lot of faith in him performing as he has done for  all the while knowing he wants to leave.
If he acts the **** for the next year what will liverpool get for him next summer?

I don't think this is about the money, well it is in another way. Arsenal and Spurs are likely to be Liverpools main rivals for 4th, if Liverpool can improve. Giving one of them Suarez would give them a great boast and goals. Replacing those goals is far from guarnateed no matter what money you have. Getting fourth is instantly worth €xxmillions plus easier to attract higher quality players, again saving money as you don't have to lure them with money.

[ned]

As a Celtic man i think Liverpool are not that far away from competing for 4th spot, they need 3 signings (2 possibly if Suarez takes his teeth out of his hole), i know we beat you on Sat with a reserve team but if Suarez had been playing on sat the result would have been very different and don't forget Celtic keepers made some cracker saves too in that game (at least 5). Sturridge made a difference when he came on and we Coutinho is very good.

On a separate issue why were Pool very quiet on Sat...feckers hardly sang a song and left up to us to create an atmosphere

If by atmosphere you mean turning your back to the game while jumping up and down like lunatics then fair enough....
I prefer to watch the games myself...

YNWA was pretty awesome in fairness...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKXBkr8zY3M

The reason for the subdued Liverpool fans is that none of them knew the songs. TV EPL fans!

[ludermor]

I know a lot of people are admiring Brendan Rogers for his stance on Suarez but i really am not so sure, Arsenal offer £40m for him and that is a shitload of money for a brilliant but troublesome character. Whether they rejected this money because they want to hold onto the player for the term of his contract or if they were hoping to start a bidding war i dont know but if he doesn't leave this window then Liverpool are putting a lot of faith in him performing as he has done for  all the while knowing he wants to leave.
If he acts the **** for the next year what will liverpool get for him next summer?

I don't think this is about the money, well it is in another way. Arsenal and Spurs are likely to be Liverpools main rivals for 4th, if Liverpool can improve. Giving one of them Suarez would give them a great boast and goals. Replacing those goals is far from guarnateed no matter what money you have. Getting fourth is instantly worth €xxmillions plus easier to attract higher quality players, again saving money as you don't have to lure them with money.

But there is no guarantee that Suarez will score the goals either and could cause more disruption to the team if he stays. Getting £40m to spend ( with £20m profit)  would open a lot of options and Rogers has shown pretty good judgement in players.

[NAG1]

I know a lot of people are admiring Brendan Rogers for his stance on Suarez but i really am not so sure, Arsenal offer £40m for him and that is a shitload of money for a brilliant but troublesome character. Whether they rejected this money because they want to hold onto the player for the term of his contract or if they were hoping to start a bidding war i dont know but if he doesn't leave this window then Liverpool are putting a lot of faith in him performing as he has done for  all the while knowing he wants to leave.
If he acts the **** for the next year what will liverpool get for him next summer?

I don't think this is about the money, well it is in another way. Arsenal and Spurs are likely to be Liverpools main rivals for 4th, if Liverpool can improve. Giving one of them Suarez would give them a great boast and goals. Replacing those goals is far from guarnateed no matter what money you have. Getting fourth is instantly worth €xxmillions plus easier to attract higher quality players, again saving money as you don't have to lure them with money.

But there is no guarantee that Suarez will score the goals either and could cause more disruption to the team if he stays. Getting £40m to spend ( with £20m profit)  would open a lot of options and Rogers has shown pretty good judgement in players.

Plus he is missing for how many games and in all likelihood will pick up a knock or two maybe miss another few games through that. Means he will more than likely only be available for over half the games in the season.

[Walter Cronc]

As a Celtic man i think Liverpool are not that far away from competing for 4th spot, they need 3 signings (2 possibly if Suarez takes his teeth out of his hole), i know we beat you on Sat with a reserve team but if Suarez had been playing on sat the result would have been very different and don't forget Celtic keepers made some cracker saves too in that game (at least 5). Sturridge made a difference when he came on and we Coutinho is very good.

On a separate issue why were Pool very quiet on Sat...feckers hardly sang a song and left up to us to create an atmosphere

If by atmosphere you mean turning your back to the game while jumping up and down like lunatics then fair enough....
I prefer to watch the games myself...

YNWA was pretty awesome in fairness...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKXBkr8zY3M

The reason for the subdued Liverpool fans is that none of them knew the songs. TV EPL fans!

Am I the only who dies a little inside when I hear that term!! Too much Fox Saccar mate!

[brokencrossbar1]

I know a lot of people are admiring Brendan Rogers for his stance on Suarez but i really am not so sure, Arsenal offer £40m for him and that is a shitload of money for a brilliant but troublesome character. Whether they rejected this money because they want to hold onto the player for the term of his contract or if they were hoping to start a bidding war i dont know but if he doesn't leave this window then Liverpool are putting a lot of faith in him performing as he has done for  all the while knowing he wants to leave.
If he acts the **** for the next year what will liverpool get for him next summer?

I don't think this is about the money, well it is in another way. Arsenal and Spurs are likely to be Liverpools main rivals for 4th, if Liverpool can improve. Giving one of them Suarez would give them a great boast and goals. Replacing those goals is far from guarnateed no matter what money you have. Getting fourth is instantly worth €xxmillions plus easier to attract higher quality players, again saving money as you don't have to lure them with money.

But there is no guarantee that Suarez will score the goals either and could cause more disruption to the team if he stays. Getting £40m to spend ( with £20m profit)  would open a lot of options and Rogers has shown pretty good judgement in players.

He will be missing 6 games this coming season, he missed 5 last season and rarely gets injured so I can see him hitting 20+ goals comfortably.  The one thing about him is that he will generally give 100% no matter what and with it being a WC year and this being his last chance to secure a big move he will play as well as he possibly can.  Liverpool will be selling on their terms next time out and will dictate from the outset and I reckon they will get the £50m next season that they are set on.

[God14]

He misses 6 games but as one of them is a second round carling cup game, in reality he misses 5 premiership matches. His return match is due to be Carling Cup 3rd round - assuming we get thru!
Id like to think we can manage sufficiently without him for 5 games.
Whilst he is a complete prat & liability at times, he's also a genius and can turn defeats into draws & draws into victories. Him staying could be worth 8 - 10 points over the course of the season.

[supersarsfields]

I know a lot of people are admiring Brendan Rogers for his stance on Suarez but i really am not so sure, Arsenal offer £40m for him and that is a shitload of money for a brilliant but troublesome character. Whether they rejected this money because they want to hold onto the player for the term of his contract or if they were hoping to start a bidding war i dont know but if he doesn't leave this window then Liverpool are putting a lot of faith in him performing as he has done for  all the while knowing he wants to leave.
If he acts the **** for the next year what will liverpool get for him next summer?

I don't think this is about the money, well it is in another way. Arsenal and Spurs are likely to be Liverpools main rivals for 4th, if Liverpool can improve. Giving one of them Suarez would give them a great boast and goals. Replacing those goals is far from guaranteed no matter what money you have. Getting fourth is instantly worth €xxmillions plus easier to attract higher quality players, again saving money as you don't have to lure them with money.

But there is no guarantee that Suarez will score the goals either and could cause more disruption to the team if he stays. Getting £40m to spend ( with £20m profit)  would open a lot of options and Rogers has shown pretty good judgement in players.

Plus he is missing for how many games and in all likelihood will pick up a knock or two maybe miss another few games through that. Means he will more than likely only be available for over half the games in the season.

Or he could come back from injury completely refreshed and chomping at the bite (ignore the pun) and start scoring for fun!! Nothing in football is guaranteed, but I know which I think is most likely based on his ability. Plus what is the value of getting into the CL? 8-10M? You could be going a long way to handing that to Arsenal by letting him go there. To me it's a no brainer if arsenal is the only club involved. 

[Walter Cronc]

I know a lot of people are admiring Brendan Rogers for his stance on Suarez but i really am not so sure, Arsenal offer £40m for him and that is a shitload of money for a brilliant but troublesome character. Whether they rejected this money because they want to hold onto the player for the term of his contract or if they were hoping to start a bidding war i dont know but if he doesn't leave this window then Liverpool are putting a lot of faith in him performing as he has done for  all the while knowing he wants to leave.
If he acts the **** for the next year what will liverpool get for him next summer?

I don't think this is about the money, well it is in another way. Arsenal and Spurs are likely to be Liverpools main rivals for 4th, if Liverpool can improve. Giving one of them Suarez would give them a great boast and goals. Replacing those goals is far from guaranteed no matter what money you have. Getting fourth is instantly worth €xxmillions plus easier to attract higher quality players, again saving money as you don't have to lure them with money.

But there is no guarantee that Suarez will score the goals either and could cause more disruption to the team if he stays. Getting £40m to spend ( with £20m profit)  would open a lot of options and Rogers has shown pretty good judgement in players.

Plus he is missing for how many games and in all likelihood will pick up a knock or two maybe miss another few games through that. Means he will more than likely only be available for over half the games in the season.

Or he could come back from injury completely refreshed and chomping at the bite (ignore the pun) and start scoring for fun!! Nothing in football is guaranteed, but I know which I think is most likely based on his ability. Plus what is the value of getting into the CL? 8-10M? You could be going a long way to handing that to Arsenal by letting him go there. To me it's a no brainer if arsenal is the only club involved.

30M I think.

[supersarsfields]

Just for group stages?? feck it shows how behind the times I've fallen!! 

[Walter Cronc]

Just for group stages?? feck it shows how behind the times I've fallen!! 

I think for last 16. Any of the top 6 in the Prem would make it that far you would think!

[GalwayBayBoy]

Liverpool have opened transfer talks with Anzhi over Brazilian winger Willian.

Liverpool are targeting Willian after Anzhi indicated they are willing to offload the Samba star just eight months after buying him from Shakhtar Donetsk for £32million as they slash costs.

Brendan Rodgers wants a marquee signing and has set his sights on Willian, who is also wanted by Tottenham, after failing to land Henrikh Mkhitaryan and Diego Costa.

The Reds are yet to talk figures and Anzhi would want to recoup most of the fee they paid for the 25-year-old Willian.

Liverpool would also have to pick up the former Corinthians star's £100,000-a-week wages.

This does not deter them and owners Fenway Sports Group have promised Rodgers they will bankroll a major signing to excite the fans and boost their Champions League hopes.

Liverpool's interest is not dependent on Luis Suarez's future and the club do not need to sell the Uruguayan to land Willian.

Wouldn't hold the breath just yet. Bound to be other interested parties.

[ned]

As a Celtic man i think Liverpool are not that far away from competing for 4th spot, they need 3 signings (2 possibly if Suarez takes his teeth out of his hole), i know we beat you on Sat with a reserve team but if Suarez had been playing on sat the result would have been very different and don't forget Celtic keepers made some cracker saves too in that game (at least 5). Sturridge made a difference when he came on and we Coutinho is very good.

On a separate issue why were Pool very quiet on Sat...feckers hardly sang a song and left up to us to create an atmosphere

If by atmosphere you mean turning your back to the game while jumping up and down like lunatics then fair enough....
I prefer to watch the games myself...

YNWA was pretty awesome in fairness...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKXBkr8zY3M

The reason for the subdued Liverpool fans is that none of them knew the songs. TV EPL fans!

Am I the only who dies a little inside when I hear that term!! Too much Fox Saccar mate!

Could have typed 'The Barclay's English Premier League as shown on Super Sky Sports Sundays' except I am a lazy sorta bassa and find English football as entertaining as fly fishing on TV a lot of the time.