Presbyterian Mutual Society asks for help!!!!

Started by Jimmy Joe, January 30, 2009, 09:12:31 AM

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pintsofguinness

Ha! I never realised there was protestant only banks. 
I say f**k them.  Why weren't the regulated by the FSA like any other finnancial institution?
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

nifan


pintsofguinness

Quote from: nifan on January 31, 2009, 11:57:40 AM
Was it Presby only, or protestant only?
Good queston, I wonder did they allow non pres protestants deposit money.
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

nifan

Actually a bit of searching I found:

"Membership is confined to members of the Presbyterian Church "

Should I also now gloat as I, and my family, where excluded from investing?

The report also claims the average investment to be several thousand pounds, hardly the evil developers being talked about earlier.

armaghniac

"Membership is confined to members of the Presbyterian Church "

This is the idea of a mutual society, a group that help themselves. There are plenty of credit unions open only to people in a particular job or a particular area. This was a credit union that lost its way in getting too big and getting involved in risky ventures that are beyond its original mission.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

pintsofguinness


QuoteShould I also now gloat as I, and my family, where excluded from investing?
I wouldnt say I was gloating, but I do think "f**k them"
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

slow corner back

There is a strong rumour round where I live that a local developer ( Pres) who became very big very quicklly was being heavily backed by this society. He is now in serious financial trouble but you would not believe it if you read his press releases. Rumour is he is the man who broke the bank. Unsure if this is any more than a rumour.

pintsofguinness

Quote from: slow corner back on January 31, 2009, 12:59:47 PM
There is a strong rumour round where I live that a local developer ( Pres) who became very big very quicklly was being heavily backed by this society. He is now in serious financial trouble but you would not believe it if you read his press releases. Rumour is he is the man who broke the bank. Unsure if this is any more than a rumour.

I heard he was buying up land to keep the catholics away from it.
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

slow corner back

Not sure if that was meant to be a joke pints but this guy is more into houses than land.

Maguire01

Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 30, 2009, 02:27:26 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 30, 2009, 12:55:14 PM
Why would any Catholic choose to deposit money in a specifically Protestant institution when there are numerous secular banks and credit unions?
Why wouldnt they if the interest rate was very enticing ?
Would it be that they were not allowed ?

Would you invest money in the 'Orange Order Mutual Society' (if there was one), rather than the Ulster Bank if there was a difference of 1 or 2% in interest rates? This was a 'private' institution - as an outsider, i wouldn't invest money where i didn't know exactly what was happening, or where there was no sign of regulation.

Out of interest, does anyone know just how favourable the rates were with this institution?

lynchbhoy

Quote from: Maguire01 on January 31, 2009, 01:11:20 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 30, 2009, 02:27:26 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 30, 2009, 12:55:14 PM
Why would any Catholic choose to deposit money in a specifically Protestant institution when there are numerous secular banks and credit unions?
Why wouldnt they if the interest rate was very enticing ?
Would it be that they were not allowed ?

Would you invest money in the 'Orange Order Mutual Society' (if there was one), rather than the Ulster Bank if there was a difference of 1 or 2% in interest rates? This was a 'private' institution - as an outsider, i wouldn't invest money where i didn't know exactly what was happening, or where there was no sign of regulation.
why wouldnt I
would nationalists not be allowed - judging by your comments?
if it was a great interest rate my answer would be yes, I would possibly invest.
why not ?
..........

Maguire01

Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 31, 2009, 02:57:14 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 31, 2009, 01:11:20 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 30, 2009, 02:27:26 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 30, 2009, 12:55:14 PM
Why would any Catholic choose to deposit money in a specifically Protestant institution when there are numerous secular banks and credit unions?
Why wouldnt they if the interest rate was very enticing ?
Would it be that they were not allowed ?

Would you invest money in the 'Orange Order Mutual Society' (if there was one), rather than the Ulster Bank if there was a difference of 1 or 2% in interest rates? This was a 'private' institution - as an outsider, i wouldn't invest money where i didn't know exactly what was happening, or where there was no sign of regulation.
why wouldnt I
would nationalists not be allowed - judging by your comments?
if it was a great interest rate my answer would be yes, I would possibly invest.
why not ?
Good for you - go for it!
Personally, i wouldn't take the risk when there's a regulated option.

nifan

Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 31, 2009, 02:57:14 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 31, 2009, 01:11:20 PM
Would you invest money in the 'Orange Order Mutual Society' (if there was one), rather than the Ulster Bank if there was a difference of 1 or 2% in interest rates? This was a 'private' institution - as an outsider, i wouldn't invest money where i didn't know exactly what was happening, or where there was no sign of regulation.
why wouldnt I
would nationalists not be allowed - judging by your comments?
if it was a great interest rate my answer would be yes, I would possibly invest.
why not ?

If there was a OOMS I would assume that only members of the OO would be allowed to invest - as only presbys may invest in the PMS, police officers in the PMAS etc etc.

As maguire says I would not take the risk either, though I have sympathy for those who did not appreciate the risks they where taken - I am sure plenty of people just assumed they could rely on their church to keep them right.

lynchbhoy

Quote from: Maguire01 on January 31, 2009, 03:21:58 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 31, 2009, 02:57:14 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 31, 2009, 01:11:20 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 30, 2009, 02:27:26 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 30, 2009, 12:55:14 PM
Why would any Catholic choose to deposit money in a specifically Protestant institution when there are numerous secular banks and credit unions?
Why wouldnt they if the interest rate was very enticing ?
Would it be that they were not allowed ?

Would you invest money in the 'Orange Order Mutual Society' (if there was one), rather than the Ulster Bank if there was a difference of 1 or 2% in interest rates? This was a 'private' institution - as an outsider, i wouldn't invest money where i didn't know exactly what was happening, or where there was no sign of regulation.
why wouldnt I
would nationalists not be allowed - judging by your comments?
if it was a great interest rate my answer would be yes, I would possibly invest.
why not ?
Good for you - go for it!
Personally, i wouldn't take the risk when there's a regulated option.
ok
that dosnt answer the question, prior to all this credit crunch etc when we werent concerned about the ass falling out of the banks
why wouldnt I take up this option, would I not be allowed - why
you seem to have a problem with it?

whoever nation/religion etc owns the banks shouldnt be a consideration. eg I used bank of islam over in dubai ....
..........

Tyrones own

Quote from: Gnevin on January 30, 2009, 11:13:52 AM
Quote from: Hereiam on January 30, 2009, 10:51:11 AM
I am glad to see this money pot go to the wall as I believe it was more or less used by prod's to buy land and property and to stop Catholics gaining any advantage over them.

:o Some of you lot are unreal with how bitter you are .

It does of course happen G, There was a big estate being sold beside me a few years back and the local
prods were falling over themselves to buy it up quickly.... one did and of course with the fact that he was unable
to afford it proceeded to cut down most all of the 2 or 3 hundred year old trees that lined the drive in to it (probably about 3/4 mile)
to sell for fire wood >:( made a complete balls of what was once a beautiful place,
still couldn't afford it and had to put it back on the market and this is the best part... sold it to a man from down around Moira i believe
thinking he was a prod..turns out he was a catholic with a prod sounding name :D
Bitter, G.......... I think you could say that!
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
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