FRC Feedback - poll on new rules - which do you like least?

Started by onefineday, February 17, 2025, 12:11:57 AM

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Which of the new rule enhancements did you like least?

1v1 throw-in to start the game
12 (12%)
40 metre scoring arc and new scoring system
31 (31%)
Kick-outs
12 (12%)
Solo and Go
5 (5%)
Advanced mark
17 (17%)
Limits on passing to the goalkeeper
11 (11%)
3 Up/Back
12 (12%)

Total Members Voted: 100

David McKeown

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2025, 11:54:56 AM
Quote from: donelli on May 12, 2025, 10:08:22 AMThe new rules have been a badly needed. The 3 up has gave better shape to the game. touch and go is good and the keeper restrictions are brilliant. kick outs are great too.
1 rule i cant have though is the new one introduced where a player who catches a ball from the kickout cant be tackled for up to 8m etc. It not natural to see players step out of there way for what is normally a good midfield contest.
No idea why this was introduced as the catcher always had the option to call a mark if he wanted space to kick it.
The penalty is very severe and i've seen several club matches where the the ball receiver basically ran straight at his opponent and was rewarded with a free 50m towards goal.   

Its not a new rule though, the old Mark which this is, was always the case he couldn't be tackled for 4 meters and not 8m as you have stated..

I'm hearing this a lot in games and slightly confused as to why people think its new. the only difference is the player is given automatically that time after the catch without having to put his hand up, the ref still blows for the mark (if the player raises his hand he has to take the mark as normal) as he did before, but now players are backing away as its dissent if they tackle, that now brings 50meters rather than the original 13m had been tackled.

I think a lot of it depends on how it is refereed as well.  During the league and early part of the championship it seemed like every piece of contact including clearly accidentally contact on landing was being moved up (in games I was at) whereas now we are seeing sometimes clear violations being ignored.  I do think though its one of those where the punishment doesn't always really fit the crime.  A catch in crowded midfield where the player making the mark is obviously going backwards or side wards shouldn't result in a 40m kick for two points.  A cynical tackle to prevent a fast break might but how do you distinguish?
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: David McKeown on May 12, 2025, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2025, 11:54:56 AM
Quote from: donelli on May 12, 2025, 10:08:22 AMThe new rules have been a badly needed. The 3 up has gave better shape to the game. touch and go is good and the keeper restrictions are brilliant. kick outs are great too.
1 rule i cant have though is the new one introduced where a player who catches a ball from the kickout cant be tackled for up to 8m etc. It not natural to see players step out of there way for what is normally a good midfield contest.
No idea why this was introduced as the catcher always had the option to call a mark if he wanted space to kick it.
The penalty is very severe and i've seen several club matches where the the ball receiver basically ran straight at his opponent and was rewarded with a free 50m towards goal.   

Its not a new rule though, the old Mark which this is, was always the case he couldn't be tackled for 4 meters and not 8m as you have stated..

I'm hearing this a lot in games and slightly confused as to why people think its new. the only difference is the player is given automatically that time after the catch without having to put his hand up, the ref still blows for the mark (if the player raises his hand he has to take the mark as normal) as he did before, but now players are backing away as its dissent if they tackle, that now brings 50meters rather than the original 13m had been tackled.

I think a lot of it depends on how it is refereed as well.  During the league and early part of the championship it seemed like every piece of contact including clearly accidentally contact on landing was being moved up (in games I was at) whereas now we are seeing sometimes clear violations being ignored.  I do think though its one of those where the punishment doesn't always really fit the crime.  A catch in crowded midfield where the player making the mark is obviously going backwards or side wards shouldn't result in a 40m kick for two points.  A cynical tackle to prevent a fast break might but how do you distinguish?

Yeah I'm all for that, its down to how the ref sees it as being deliberate or accidental, I've seen plenty of catches on tv and the player coming in behind lands on the person catching the ball, its not deliberate and the Mark should be just that or you can make a call that it's a free based on the other player landing on his back.

Deliberate is, my view anyways, and this isn't the technical term, if the player is acting the bollox, they are easy to spot.. 

You'll not see that term in the rules though ;D

I have for whatever reason seen it in intercounty games, not so much in club games
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