This week's The Celtic View - Page 65!

Started by T Fearon, October 23, 2008, 09:15:53 AM

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Main Street

Quote from: Evil Genius on October 24, 2008, 03:18:04 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 24, 2008, 03:11:35 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on October 24, 2008, 03:05:56 PM
(For example, a simple Google of "goal famine" produces 1,680,000 replies.)

Err, no it doesn't. It produces 4,820 hits.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22goal+famine%22&btnG=Search&meta=

Those quotations marks you put into your post above, but left out of your search make a hell of a difference.

I had hoped that my point was understood i.e. that those two words (without the quotation marks) produced 1,680,000 replies, thereby proving my point that this is a very common term in football, so that its use by Healy should be entirely unremarkable.
Saffron Sam is correct. Your point just demonstrates your inability to even do a proper google search.

The hits for the term goal famine  is only  4,820

The hits for the two words goal  and famine is 1.8m

Basic internet nous.


Evil Genius

Quote from: T Fearon on October 24, 2008, 04:02:13 PM
I too don't believe that Healy was referring to that song, but you have to remember the goldfish bowl that is Glasgow soccer, and I can well understand where Hamilton is coming from here given the sectarian abuse meted out to the Celtic coach Neil Lennon both in Belfast and in Glasgow,which are constantly swept under the carpet or blamed on Lennon himself for provoking same. Also Healy's flute playing before a pre season friendly with Celtic needs also to be factored in as undoubtedly this proves that Healy is of a sectarian mindset and inevitably therefore put himself in a position where his future behaviour,actions and comments would be scrutinised.

A misinterpretation indeed I suspect,but Healy must accept a fair degree of blame given his past history with Celtic fans, I'm afraid.

Celtic are still treated unfairly in the Scottish media and by the Scottish FA (only yesterday Boruc was fined £500 for gesturing to Rangers fans singing vile odious songs and Rangers get off scot free as usual). It is only to be expected that heir head of media and communications will be on the look out for anything that could be construed as having a go at his club.
Utter bullshit, from someone who is obviously determined to defend Celtic, come what may.

First, Healy's flute playing at CC was an innocent attempt at humour which was misinterpreted by a small and malicious minority, determined to make something out of nothing. Nonetheless, he still apologised profusely and sincerely, out of a desire to see this whole petty incident "put to bed".
Which is exactly where Hamilton should have left it.
But no, he is seemingly unable to do so. Worse, Hamilton then sought to link it to another remark ("famine, drought or whatever"), made in an entirely different context, to imply that Healy was deliberately insulting Celtic fans, something which even you admit this untenable. Consequently, we have (so-called) Celtic fans making threats against Healy.
Hamilton has no excuse. He is in an official position at Celtic. He is acutely aware how sensitive these things are. He deliberately or recklessly misinterpreted, then connected, an innocent attempt at a joke, with an entirely innocuous remark, to make Healy appear to be the wrongdoer in all this. Moreover, his remarks were not verbal, or in the heat of the moment. Rather, they were the result of (no doubt) careful consideration, from someone who might be expected to be literate and articulate ( a "Head of Media Communications", ffs")
This is not just disgraceful, it is positively dangerous. He ought to be ashamed of himself and if he's not, his employers should be ashamed of him.

P.S. Healy's attempt at a joke, in friendly banter with Celtic fans, is nothing like evidence of a "sectarian mindset" - quite the opposite, in fact, seeing as he was prepared to indulge their taunting, then sign autographs for them afterwards. And he does NOT have a "past history with Celtic fans", at least not in the way in which you are desperately trying to imply.
Oh and your attempt to muddy the waters on this particular episode by bringing in Neil Lennon and Artur Boruc etc is pretty scandalous of you, too (though no less transparent or  unexpected than usual.)
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

Evil Genius

Quote from: Main Street on October 24, 2008, 04:08:25 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on October 24, 2008, 03:18:04 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 24, 2008, 03:11:35 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on October 24, 2008, 03:05:56 PM
(For example, a simple Google of "goal famine" produces 1,680,000 replies.)

Err, no it doesn't. It produces 4,820 hits.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22goal+famine%22&btnG=Search&meta=

Those quotations marks you put into your post above, but left out of your search make a hell of a difference.

I had hoped that my point was understood i.e. that those two words (without the quotation marks) produced 1,680,000 replies, thereby proving my point that this is a very common term in football, so that its use by Healy should be entirely unremarkable.
Saffron Sam is correct. Your point just demonstrates your inability to even do a proper google search.

The hits for the term goal famine  is only  4,820

The hits for the two words goal  and famine is 1.8m

Basic internet nous.


FFS! I did the Google without the quotation marks. I reported it with quotation marks on this site because I was "quoting" the words I had used. This might have been an oversight on my part, but so what? The point I was trying to make was obvious to anyone who isn't either a petty point-scorer or a pedant (or both).
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

T Fearon

Sorry mate, but its fact not bullshit. Sectarian gestures have no comedic value, as Healy should know, and are made only by those of a sectarian mindset. If every footballer reacted to the crowd on a like for like basis then anarchy would result. Plus there is no evidence Celtic fans were bantering Healy in the first place. By his past actions Healy has put himself in the firing line and although he is being given the benefit of the diubt here,even by me, who's to say he wasn't really making the connection with that song when he made the comment

Read the history of Celtic and see the injustices they suffer right up to the present day and then you'll understand why the Head of Communication draws attention to anything that can conceivably be construed as having a go at the club

Main Street

Quote from: Evil Genius on October 24, 2008, 03:18:04 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 24, 2008, 03:11:35 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on October 24, 2008, 03:05:56 PM
(For example, a simple Google of "goal famine" produces 1,680,000 replies.)

Err, no it doesn't. It produces 4,820 hits.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22goal+famine%22&btnG=Search&meta=

Those quotations marks you put into your post above, but left out of your search make a hell of a difference.

I had hoped that my point was understood i.e. that those two words (without the quotation marks) produced 1,680,000 replies, thereby proving my point that this is a very common term in football, so that its use by Healy should be entirely unremarkable.

Now what point were you trying to make, other than how clever or pedantic you can be? Or were you trying to deflect attention away from my criticism of Tony Hamilton?
Even after being corrected twice, you still don't get it do you?
The difference between searching for 2 words anywhere in a web page  and searching for a term used in a web page.
Even my wife understands that one and she struggles with the double click




ziggysego

 :D ah hardstation... beginning to understand your name now.
Testing Accessibility

his holiness nb

Mayoman would be proud of you hardstation  :D
Ask me holy bollix

Main Street

 :o
Less of that immature double entendre carry on please.

Haven't the foggiest how anybody could infer anything other than "double click" is the act of pressing a mouse button twice without moving the mouse?
But I never did watch those Carry On films or tuned into Benny Hill ;D





Chrisowc

Is a famine and a drought the same thing?
it's 'circle the wagons time again' here comes the cavalry!

Main Street

Would you ask a question if you didn't know the answer Chris?

Chrisowc

it's 'circle the wagons time again' here comes the cavalry!

Rav67

'Tis a bit reckless of Hamilton, you can't go throwing about accusations like that when he's wriing for the official club magazine.  He's not the brightest though, I remember him writing in the View about the "sectarian" fighting at the Glentoran Linfield game a few years back.  I assume he thought Glentoran are a cafflick team because they play in green!

saffron sam2

Quote from: Evil Genius on October 24, 2008, 03:18:04 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 24, 2008, 03:11:35 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on October 24, 2008, 03:05:56 PM
(For example, a simple Google of "goal famine" produces 1,680,000 replies.)

Err, no it doesn't. It produces 4,820 hits.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22goal+famine%22&btnG=Search&meta=

Those quotations marks you put into your post above, but left out of your search make a hell of a difference.

I had hoped that my point was understood i.e. that those two words (without the quotation marks) produced 1,680,000 replies, thereby proving my point that this is a very common term in football, so that its use by Healy should be entirely unremarkable.

Now what point were you trying to make, other than how clever or pedantic you can be? Or were you trying to deflect attention away from my criticism of Tony Hamilton?

I had hoped my point was obvious, namely that many of your 1.7 million sites are totally irrelevant. Main Street explains it in a concise and easy to understand manner. He gets my point. Refining Internet searches isn't rocket science.

Had you read my earlier post, you would also have seen that the term "goal drought" is twenty times as common as "goal famine".

I was neither trying to clever nor pedantic, simply highlighting the flaw in your post.

Your criticisms of Hamilton are totally valid by the way.
the breathing of the vanished lies in acres round my feet