Tyrone man Gary McGurk killed New Yorker ex-girlfriend

[maggie]

This is the first time I've seen this thread and I cannot believe how low some people are stooping. Pathetic attempts to deflect attention from the horrible end this poor woman suffered and instead bitch about the McGurk's father are sickening. It just goes to show that many of those on this board who frequently like to think they are taking the moral highground in being anti-IRA dont give a flying fcuk about morals. A poor woman was brutally murdered and so many pathetic sick creatures on this board only want to in some way connect it to his father having been an IRA Volunteer.

+1

A truly sickening crime.
Hope he spends a very long time locked up.

[stibhan]

But I'm still quite happy to conclude that the Buntings were both s c u m b a g s of the lowest order, asterisks or no

Ronald Bunting
Major Ronald Terence Bunting (1924-1984[1]) was a British Army officer and Unionist political figure in Northern Ireland.

Bunting was commissioned into the Armagh and Down Army Cadet Force in May 1946 and resigned in March 1950 when he transferred to the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers as a Lieutenant. He was promoted Captain in 1952 and retired with the honorary rank of Major in 1960.

Bunting's first involvement with politics was as election agent to Republican Labour Party MP Gerry Fitt, although he broke from Fitt and became a close associate of Ian Paisley. In this role Bunting would come to play a leading role in Paisley's campaigns against the Catholic civil rights movement, as well as running unsuccessfully for the Protestant Unionist Party in the Northern Ireland general election of 1969 in Belfast Victoria.

Major Bunting formed his own strong-arm group which he dubbed the Loyal Citizens of Ulster, although in truth the LCU, which existed between 1968 and 1969, was little more than another name for the East Belfast arm of the Ulster Protestant Volunteers.

At the head of this group, Bunting lead the protests against the 1969 Belfast to Derry march organised by the People's Democracy, which resulted in a particularly bloody confrontation at Burntollet. In a fiery court case in 1969 Bunting was sentenced to three months imprisonment along with Paisley for his role in the disturbances.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Bunting


Good of you to acknowledge that his delude sectarian role in defence of the union makes him a scum bag

First you (wilfully?) distorted my original post on the matter ("I dunno etc").
Next you introduced the Buntings, not in order to make a point about genetic disposition to criminality, but as "whataboutery" to deflect when Republicans plan/commit atrocities etc.
Now you put words in my mouth (bold).

If you want to know why I consider Bunting Sr. to be a scum bag, it is not because he defended the Union (even in a "delude sectarian role", whatever that means  ), any more eg than for his acting as an Election Agent for Gerry Fitt.

Rather, it was because of reasons which you outlined yourself, namely: 

"... became a close associate of Ian Paisley. In this role Bunting would come to play a leading role in Paisley's campaigns against the Catholic civil rights movement, as well as running unsuccessfully for the Protestant Unionist Party in the Northern Ireland general election of 1969 in Belfast Victoria.
Major Bunting formed his own strong-arm group which he dubbed the Loyal Citizens of Ulster, although in truth the LCU, which existed between 1968 and 1969, was little more than another name for the East Belfast arm of the Ulster Protestant Volunteers."

All of this is a f**king stupid argument. In court, you can't bring a father's crimes into anything unless his crimes are directly related to the sons, i.e. unless his father handed him the murder weapon. Equating one crime with the other also does against any kind of legal principle of justice.

Given that in this case your man McGurk hardly committed his crimes in the name of any supposed national liberation you can't make that equation. It wouldn't f**king work in any court of law in any free democracy in the world.

Gary McGurk brutally murdered someone anyway. I think it would be best rather than to speculate on the links between father and son to express sympathy with the deceased's relatives.

[Hardy]

This is the first time I've seen this thread and I cannot believe how low some people are stooping. Pathetic attempts to deflect attention from the horrible end this poor woman suffered and instead bitch about the McGurk's father are sickening. It just goes to show that many of those on this board who frequently like to think they are taking the moral highground in being anti-IRA dont give a flying fcuk about morals. A poor woman was brutally murdered and so many pathetic sick creatures on this board only want to in some way connect it to his father having been an IRA Volunteer.

You don't even see the irony, do you?

Your first and only post on the thread is not to express your outrage at the crime, but something else - your outrage that other posters are not expressing their outrage at the crime, but something else.

[Nally Stand]

This is the first time I've seen this thread and I cannot believe how low some people are stooping. Pathetic attempts to deflect attention from the horrible end this poor woman suffered and instead bitch about the McGurk's father are sickening. It just goes to show that many of those on this board who frequently like to think they are taking the moral highground in being anti-IRA dont give a flying fcuk about morals. A poor woman was brutally murdered and so many pathetic sick creatures on this board only want to in some way connect it to his father having been an IRA Volunteer.

You don't even see the irony, do you?

Your first and only post on the thread is not to express your outrage at the crime, but something else - your outrage that other posters are not expressing their outrage at the crime, but something else.

Firstly, as I mentioned, it's the first time I've seen the thread, secondly if you read my post again I'm sure you will admit that it's clear where my sympathies lie. And finally, can't you even accept the point I'm making in that post?

[Tyrones own]

Your wasting your time Nally.... sure these would be the same lads that would
be in favor of rehabilitating him..... sure it was his up bringing the poor bastard

[Hardy]

This is the first time I've seen this thread and I cannot believe how low some people are stooping. Pathetic attempts to deflect attention from the horrible end this poor woman suffered and instead bitch about the McGurk's father are sickening. It just goes to show that many of those on this board who frequently like to think they are taking the moral highground in being anti-IRA dont give a flying fcuk about morals. A poor woman was brutally murdered and so many pathetic sick creatures on this board only want to in some way connect it to his father having been an IRA Volunteer.

You don't even see the irony, do you?

Your first and only post on the thread is not to express your outrage at the crime, but something else - your outrage that other posters are not expressing their outrage at the crime, but something else.

Firstly, as I mentioned, it's the first time I've seen the thread, secondly if you read my post again I'm sure you will admit that it's clear where my sympathies lie. And finally, can't you even accept the point I'm making in that post?

Is that meant to be a rebuttal of my observation?

[Onion Bag]

f** it Onion, don't mind me. I'm a contankrous old Fox. I like black humour. Maybe it was okay. Anyway which was the odd one out?... your man from America only one to never play for Tyrone 

No your wrong,

the answer was actually Mugsy, he was the only one with a ginger beard

it was plain to be seen