iphone applications

Archie Mitchell · June 23, 2009, 11:41:10 PM

Quote from: thebigfella on June 23, 2009, 11:38:15 PM
To be honest it wouldn't be too difficult as the interface would be straight forward with the SDK tools supplied. Data storage can be done in a number of ways, SQLite is included in the SDK, XML or text files. My main issue would be getting the data from the Iphone for analysis but I assume there is documented ways to do this, email is a option but again the data would have to be in a format suitable to import into, for example, excel.

You also have to think about how you get the app onto your phones too, without jail breaking them you have to download it from the Itunes app store and thus it needs to be approved by Apple.

You seem to know what your talking about then. Have you developed any before? I know a few boys who do a bit of programming, could maybe ask them to have a look at it. Is it a big issue to get it approved by Apple?

thebigfella · June 24, 2009, 12:32:00 AM

Quote from: Archie Mitchell on June 23, 2009, 11:41:10 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on June 23, 2009, 11:38:15 PM
To be honest it wouldn't be too difficult as the interface would be straight forward with the SDK tools supplied. Data storage can be done in a number of ways, SQLite is included in the SDK, XML or text files. My main issue would be getting the data from the Iphone for analysis but I assume there is documented ways to do this, email is a option but again the data would have to be in a format suitable to import into, for example, excel.

You also have to think about how you get the app onto your phones too, without jail breaking them you have to download it from the Itunes app store and thus it needs to be approved by Apple.

You seem to know what your talking about then. Have you developed any before? I know a few boys who do a bit of programming, could maybe ask them to have a look at it. Is it a big issue to get it approved by Apple?

I'm a member of the developer program and have worked on a few proof of concept's, they are mainly proprietary in-house apps though. If your mates are familiar with C (and own a Mac) they will be fine, otherwise they will have a bit of a steeper learning curve. Approval by Apple shouldn't be an issue as long as it sticks to their guidelines and obviously you have to pay to be a member of the developer program before it can be submitted.

ziggysego · June 24, 2009, 12:53:12 AM

Quote from: Archie Mitchell on June 23, 2009, 11:05:37 PM
Where you thinking the same Ziggy?

Setting up a GAA app for the iPhone, where people login and update their club's results onto and anyone else can access.

ONeill · June 24, 2009, 01:11:59 AM

Still on 5.

ziggysego · June 24, 2009, 01:21:01 AM

Quote from: ONeill on June 24, 2009, 01:11:59 AM
Still on 5.

10

take_yer_points · June 24, 2009, 09:13:55 AM

I've too much time on my hands - 11 on hard

thebigfella · June 24, 2009, 10:24:03 AM

Quote from: ziggysego on June 24, 2009, 12:53:12 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on June 23, 2009, 11:05:37 PM
Where you thinking the same Ziggy?

Setting up a GAA app for the iPhone, where people login and update their club's results onto and anyone else can access.

That's slightly different, you would have to develop a Web Site and then build the client for the iphone which connects to the site either just to upload the data or also eventually showing the other stats uploaded by another account. I think than main issue is how you manage the creation/update of the results for the same club etc...., possibly some sort of Wiki is the way to go though.

Archie Mitchell · June 24, 2009, 10:52:23 AM

Ziggy's idea is shite and mine is better.

thebigfella · June 24, 2009, 10:58:22 AM

Quote from: Archie Mitchell on June 24, 2009, 10:52:23 AM
Ziggy's idea is shite and mine is better.

Yours is easier to implement but then again what are you going to do with the data? You can leave it on the iphone for review but surely you would want to export it and use it in some sort of analysis tool? Eventually you will have quite a large amount of data on the Iphone which is not exactly the best tool to be doing your analysis on.

Archie Mitchell · June 24, 2009, 11:12:31 AM

I'm only trying to wind Ziggy up.

thebigfella · June 24, 2009, 01:20:11 PM

Quote from: Archie Mitchell on June 24, 2009, 11:12:31 AM
I'm only trying to wind Ziggy up.

Aye I know but I was interested on what you plan to do with the data/stats you record?

I like Ziggy's idea as I have implemented something similar (not for GAA), without the iphone client, for tracking IT projects using Wiki's. Would be relatively easy to adapt it I believe and develop an Iphone client.

Archie Mitchell · June 24, 2009, 01:34:05 PM

Quote from: thebigfella on June 24, 2009, 01:20:11 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on June 24, 2009, 11:12:31 AM
I'm only trying to wind Ziggy up.

Aye I know but I was interested on what you plan to do with the data/stats you record?

I like Ziggy's idea as I have implemented something similar (not for storing), without the iphone client, for tracking IT projects using Wiki's. Would be relatively easy to adapt it I believe and idevelop an Iphone client.

I suppose it would be useful to send the data on somewhere so that you would have a record for it and saves having all the data stored on the iPhone. I have used the RunKeeper app a few times, and it records where you have ran with the GPS, records times, speed, etc, and you can upload the data to their website and log in and view it there as well as on the iPhone.

thebigfella · June 24, 2009, 02:25:08 PM

Quote from: Archie Mitchell on June 24, 2009, 01:34:05 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on June 24, 2009, 01:20:11 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on June 24, 2009, 11:12:31 AM
I'm only trying to wind Ziggy up.

Aye I know but I was interested on what you plan to do with the data/stats you record?

I like Ziggy's idea as I have implemented something similar (not for storing), without the iphone client, for tracking IT projects using Wiki's. Would be relatively easy to adapt it I believe and idevelop an Iphone client.

I suppose it would be useful to send the data on somewhere so that you would have a record for it and saves having all the data stored on the iPhone. I have used the RunKeeper app a few times, and it records where you have ran with the GPS, records times, speed, etc, and you can upload the data to their website and log in and view it there as well as on the iPhone.

Yeah it's a similar idea to Ziggy's, only the Iphone client is a bit more sophisticated by using the GPS, system time etc. to record the data before uploading it. Still though there is no point uploading it to a web site if the site itself is crap.

ziggysego · June 24, 2009, 02:34:26 PM

I'm flat out redesigning the Greencastle website. I might try and incorporate my idea onto this idea and see how it works. If it works, I could expand it through Tyrone, Ulster and then Ireland.

thebigfella · June 24, 2009, 03:52:00 PM

Quote from: ziggysego on June 24, 2009, 02:34:26 PM
I'm flat out redesigning the Greencastle website. I might try and incorporate my idea onto this idea and see how it works. If it works, I could expand it through Tyrone, Ulster and then Ireland.

You main issue is how manage content,
1. Do you follow a blog style where essentially everyone can see but only the author/admins can edit and most likely you could get multiple entries per game. Essentially the RunKeeper is a only blog of your run with some analysis tools etc...
2. or follow a collaborative effort like wiki's where everone can edit or amend the game stats once the initial upload has been created. You then get in to all sorts of issues with concurrency and tracking changes.

Would be interesting project if you where to try something like the 2nd option.