The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread

[Armamike]

Look - he's just not good enough in a lot of ways. His temperament is suspect and he has never been able to take criticism (his appearance on the Late, Late Show alone confirms this. He was a bad buy for Liverpool because their best formation is one (Torres) up with Gerrard free just behind. He is not cut out to play either role. He needs someone like a Berbatov to put things on a plate and if he scores a few then his conversion rate increases. It seems entirely plausbile to me that he is not a Benitez signing.

Some Liverpool fans may not like this but I'm not just criticising him because he plays for Liverpool. I thought this of him long before he ever moved to Merseyside. If anything I'm surprised and admire the workrate he has developed at Anfield - though I've seen it in flashes before when he wasn't scoring.

Pretty spot on to be fair.

Two 1-1s and two very contrasting performances. We suit 4-4-1-1 not 4-4-2.

Depends who the one up front is. If Torres isn't fit then who else can step in for  4-4-1-1 to work?

Jeez there are a few players who are really frustrating. Babel, Riera  - what the hell are they actually contributing to the team?  Never seems to be an end product with either. 

Torres - that flick was pure genius.

Couldn't believe the lead up to the Everton goal.  Did nobody take a look at the tape from the game last week and notice a certain Tim Cahill loitering with intent around the square? 

Is anyone else getting a bit fed up with Benitez's interviews?  I didn't think he needed to stoke things up after the game with that stuff about Everton's tactics. What way did he expect them to play?  Keep it shut Rafa and get on with the important stuff, let the club salvage any wee bit of dignity that's left from the past 2 years with the 2 w**ks, sorry yanks, in charge.

[GalwayBayBoy]

Look - he's just not good enough in a lot of ways. His temperament is suspect and he has never been able to take criticism (his appearance on the Late, Late Show alone confirms this. He was a bad buy for Liverpool because their best formation is one (Torres) up with Gerrard free just behind. He is not cut out to play either role. He needs someone like a Berbatov to put things on a plate and if he scores a few then his conversion rate increases. It seems entirely plausbile to me that he is not a Benitez signing.

Some Liverpool fans may not like this but I'm not just criticising him because he plays for Liverpool. I thought this of him long before he ever moved to Merseyside. If anything I'm surprised and admire the workrate he has developed at Anfield - though I've seen it in flashes before when he wasn't scoring.

Pretty spot on to be fair.

Two 1-1s and two very contrasting performances. We suit 4-4-1-1 not 4-4-2.

Depends who the one up front is. If Torres isn't fit then who else can step in for  4-4-1-1 to work?

Jeez there are a few players who are really frustrating. Babel, Riera  - what the hell are they actually contributing to the team?  Never seems to be an end product with either. 

Bit harsh on Riera who I think has been pretty good since he arrived bar a couple of quiet games.

[Hound]

Daniel Agger comments on his ongoing contract negotiations:

"We have only met once with Liverpool," he told Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet .

"At the meeting we had in early November, I was told the club would soon come back. Now it has been 12 weeks since we talked together.

"It's an annoying situation, and in principle it is a little frustrating not getting the message - especially when it has been almost three months. It was the club who said they would come back soon."

[Over the Bar]

If City are serious about Keane then Liverpool should get their money back but if it's Spurs he returns to expect to get severly shafted on your £18M.  Was that figure dependent on appearances or how much have you paid to date?

[gawa316]

If City are serious about Keane then Liverpool should get their money back but if it's Spurs he returns to expect to get severly shafted on your £18M.  Was that figure dependent on appearances or how much have you paid to date?

Can't remember where I heard it or read it but think we have only paid 6 million or something like that

[Minder]

I read on another forum that Keane was told not to turn up on Sunday after he exchanged words with Benitez after the drawn league game on Monday night. Could be horses*it but it all sounds ominous for Keane...........

[Maiden1]

I'm sure this has been asked on previous pages but I can't be bothered reading all the pages but why did Rafa sign Keane and then not play him and look like he has never rated him?   I could understand if Houllier had signed him but he paid 20 million for him in the summer, given Keane's age etc. it was certainly an eye opener for me paying that much but it just doesn't make sense.  Even when Keane was not scoring at the start of the season he was working really hard and Liverpool where winning most of the matches.  Then in his last couple of games he has scored 3 goals and then been discarded.  I have always been a huge fan of Rafa's but he does some strange things at times IMHO.

Maybe if it was Chelsea or Manchester City they could sign someone for 20 million then go nah I don't fancy them that much but Liverpool don't have the resources to be spending that much and then Rafa not fancying a player.  Surely Liverppol had done there homework before pushing through the deal.  Everyone knows Keane is a yard short of pace in regard to being work class so I don't see how anything Keane has done has been such a surprise to Liverpool.

[Minder]

I'm sure this has been asked on previous pages but I can't be bothered reading all the pages but why did Rafa sign Keane and then not play him and look like he has never rated him?   I could understand if Houllier had signed him but he paid 20 million for him in the summer, given Keane's age etc. it was certainly an eye opener for me paying that much but it just doesn't make sense.  Even when Keane was not scoring at the start of the season he was working really hard and Liverpool where winning most of the matches.  Then in his last couple of games he has scored 3 goals and then been discarded.  I have always been a huge fan of Rafa's but he does some strange things at times IMHO.

Maybe if it was Chelsea or Manchester City they could sign someone for 20 million then go nah I don't fancy them that much but Liverpool don't have the resources to be spending that much and then Rafa not fancying a player.  Surely Liverppol had done there homework before pushing through the deal.  Everyone knows Keane is a yard short of pace in regard to being work class so I don't see how anything Keane has done has been such a surprise to Liverpool.

He always has been short of pace though and has performed far better at Spurs than he is now. As for Liverpool signing him the consensus seems to be Benitez had nothing to do with signing him, he was Rick Parrys "baby". I am actually really surprised we have managed to stay at the top all season, only losing one game, with some of the off the field s*ite that has been going on.

[Over the Bar]

As for Liverpool signing him the consensus seems to be Benitez had nothing to do with signing him, he was Rick Parrys "baby".

The same story came out when Shevchenko lost form at Chelsea about him not being Mourhino's signing.  Hard to believe on both counts.

[GalwayBayBoy]

As for Liverpool signing him the consensus seems to be Benitez had nothing to do with signing him, he was Rick Parrys "baby".

The same story came out when Shevchenko lost form at Chelsea about him not being Mourhino's signing.  Hard to believe on both counts.

I could easily see both being true.

Certainly Shevchenko was only bought because he was good mates with Abramovich. Mourinho probably didn't object but I doubt it was his idea.

As for Keane the way things are run at Liverpool at present it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

[Maiden1]

As for Liverpool signing him the consensus seems to be Benitez had nothing to do with signing him, he was Rick Parrys "baby".

The same story came out when Shevchenko lost form at Chelsea about him not being Mourhino's signing.  Hard to believe on both counts.

I could easily see both being true.

Certainly Shevchenko was only bought because he was good mates with Abramovich. Mourinho probably didn't object but I doubt it was his idea.

As for Keane the way things are run at Liverpool at present it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Madness to sign a player over the managers head, makes sense why he won't sign a new contract until he gets more control over transfers.  What does Rick Parry know about football anyhow.  The Keane signing doesn't make sense, paying 20 million for a player that in 3-4 years is probably only going to be worth a couple of million.

[Minder]

As for Liverpool signing him the consensus seems to be Benitez had nothing to do with signing him, he was Rick Parrys "baby".

The same story came out when Shevchenko lost form at Chelsea about him not being Mourhino's signing.  Hard to believe on both counts.

You dont honestly think Shevchenko was Mourinhos signing do you?

[Hound]

I don't believe for one second that Keane was not a Benitez signing.
Benitez simply wouldnt stand for it, and Liverpool wouldnt spend £20m on a player the manager didnt ask for.

The Chelsea/Shevchenko situation was totally different.

[anportmorforjfc]

Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez insists he has not suffered a falling out with Robbie Keane following the striker's Merseyside derby FA Cup snub.

[Main Street]

I read on another forum that Keane was told not to turn up on Sunday after he exchanged words with Benitez after the drawn league game on Monday night. Could be horses*it but it all sounds ominous for Keane...........

Keane while not being the brightest spark in the football world is not the type to forsake his sense of professional duty.

If there was some sort of row, I doubt that Keane is not man enough to rectify his part in any innappropriate conduct.