Man Utd Thread:

[Armagh18]

Nearly feel sorry for Amorim, definitely a decent lad and he's saying all the right things, getting rid of the ego's/deadwood like Sancho etc. it can't be a coincidence though that no top team really plays with that back 3 formation, but the club knew (or should have known) that's his style when they hired him.

Keeper
Dalot-Yoro-De Ligt- Dorgu
Bruo-Casemiro Mainoo
Mbumeo-Sesko-Cunha

Surely a 433 would suit the squad? Obviously a new keeper needed and a Casemiro replacement, but that's needed no matter the formation. Anyway, I barring relegation form past Christmas (which is still possible) he'll get the season to turn it around.

[thewobbler]

Nearly feel sorry for Amorim, definitely a decent lad and he's saying all the right things, getting rid of the ego's/deadwood like Sancho etc. it can't be a coincidence though that no top team really plays with that back 3 formation, but the club knew (or should have known) that's his style when they hired him.

Keeper
Dalot-Yoro-De Ligt- Dorgu
Bruo-Casemiro Mainoo
Mbumeo-Sesko-Cunha

Surely a 433 would suit the squad? Obviously a new keeper needed and a Casemiro replacement, but that's needed no matter the formation. Anyway, I barring relegation form past Christmas (which is still possible) he'll get the season to turn it around.

You're asking a 92 year old DCM to cover 5 attacking players there. I don't think that's a solution.

[gawa316]

What's the deal with Mainoo? Gone from Utd and England starter to well not starting.

The other buck is no major loss

[thewobbler]

What's the deal with Mainoo? Gone from Utd and England starter to well not starting.

The other buck is no major loss

He has quite a similar profile to Harry Winks. Grew up playing in the "Xavi" type no.6 position. This tidiness and confidence got him into the first team and straight into the England squad. In a solid, functional team he looked very promising. But over time his weaknesses as a midfielder - defensive positioning, tackling, athleticism, power, workrate - began to overshadow his strengths. And truth is, a deep lying playmaker is a luxury few teams can afford, unless he's one of the blessed few who can genuinely control a game from that position.

My outstanding memory of Harry Winks is him, on repeat, coming short to take the ball off the keeper, doing an unmarked pirouette, then playing the ball to the unmarked left back. Once his confidence left him, that was his entire game. It's an empty shirt.

[tiempo]

In addition to that, like Rashford, he just looks disinterested, like the world owes him something

[Captain Scarlet]

It doesn't matter the system if you can't the better of a League 2 outfit.That's just basic desire.
Mainoo seems to be getting a full pass from English fans especially,  but he is another like Sancho who can play in flashes and the manager gets all the heat.

There's no way clubs like Real are interested in him.

All that being said a manager needs some flexibility these days and needs to tweak it.

Christ Thomas Frank was there again. A man who manages with what he has and builds.

[gawa316]

Did Amorim hang his players out today with his comments are the game?

[gawa316]

Did Grimsby not beat Liverpool in same cup? And Northampton?

What's that got to do with Utd losing to Grimsby?

[lurganblue]

Yeah Amorim has made some big calls and tried to get rid of some of the bad characters who were bringing the club down.  Some lazy bastids who rarely put a shift in.

There is clearly more work to be done in that regard though.  He needs to address the Bruno as captain craic too.  How can that whingy whiny moan of a man inspire others?  It is impossible.  Youd only have to look at his face to think wtf am I doing here.

[RedHand88]

Did Grimsby not beat Liverpool in same cup? And Northampton?

No that was the Worthington Cup and Carling Cup. Completely different competitions going by Uniteds logic on Liverpool only having 2 league titles.

[trileacman]

I've no sympathy for Amorin, he's a media darling who gets a very easy ride off the press, Postecoglou was working with a similar squad, more injuries and less money yet got laughed out of the EPL by the media despite producing pretty much the exact same results.

The list of people Amorim needs to get rid of grows by the week yet the media and fans never seem to put the managers name on the list. He'll soon be lining out himself if all the deadwood he supposedly needs to clear gets shifted.

[tiempo]

13 years into the Liverpools 30 year drought they were finishing up with Houllier and brought in the Spanish waiter, Ruben is almost the perfect blend of both, plenty of road left in him

[snoopdog]

I've no sympathy for Amorin, he's a media darling who gets a very easy ride off the press, Postecoglou was working with a similar squad, more injuries and less money yet got laughed out of the EPL by the media despite producing pretty much the exact same results.

The list of people Amorim needs to get rid of grows by the week yet the media and fans never seem to put the managers name on the list. He'll soon be lining out himself if all the deadwood he supposedly needs to clear gets shifted.

What nonsense. United get destroyed by the press.

[Milltown Row2]

Did Grimsby not beat Liverpool in same cup? And Northampton?

No that was the Worthington Cup and Carling Cup. Completely different competitions going by Uniteds logic on Liverpool only having 2 league titles.

Are you four years of age?

Did Grimsby not beat Liverpool in same cup? And Northampton?

What's that got to do with Utd losing to Grimsby?

Shocks happen, teams in other divisions can beat teams above them. Utd getting beat by them is no real different to the above shocks I mentioned

[AustinPowers]

13 years into the Liverpools 30 year drought they were finishing up with Houllier and brought in the Spanish waiter, Ruben is almost the perfect blend of both, plenty of road left in him

Roy Hodgsons  disastrous few months in charge, and  the last few months of souness's reign , weren't good. But  Liverpool were never as bad  in those 30-odd years  as what United have become in the last 2-3 years.