Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

Started by Main Street, February 12, 2022, 09:38:45 PM

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Banks of the Bann

Kyiv burning at dawn, hours after Trumps call with Putin.

https://x.com/berlin_bridge/status/1940980256527339933?s=46

Trump is giving Putin the green light to do this. Aiding him in murder now, in fact by refusing to even sell defensive systems that will save civilian lives.

Mark Rutte is probably still wondering how to please 'Daddy'.

European leaders will probably have another emergency meeting soon.

SchMerz will be thinking harder and harder and harder about whether or not to give Taurus to Ukraine.

Denn Forever

USA stockpile of weapons running low.  Luck trump and putin are bff
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

Denn Forever

I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

DaleCooper

I was told the Russian orcs were being eliminated and massive blows were being inflicted daily by the brave men and women of Ukraine.

Rossfan

Quote from: Denn Forever on July 04, 2025, 11:10:09 AMUSA stockpile of weapons running low.  Luck trump and putin are bff
All given to Satanyahu to murder Palestinians!
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

tbrick18

Quote from: Rossfan on July 04, 2025, 12:22:51 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 04, 2025, 11:10:09 AMUSA stockpile of weapons running low.  Luck trump and putin are bff
All given to Satanyahu to murder Palestinians!

You're probably right.
It feels like Trump has his mind made up that Ukraine is going to lose and Russia will take over so why throw good money after bad. Whereas Israel is a sure thing.

I've always wondered, when we talk about giving weapons, does the US sell those weapons to Israel/Ukraine or do they donate? Possibly a stupid question - but the terminology used always seems to be "given" or "supplied".
I'm assuming sold, and if they are selling the weapons, where is Israel getting all the money for a country that size?
Ukraine I assume are going into huge debt?
Would that be the driving factor behind where the weapons go? More money for them in Israel?

Milltown Row2

The UK only paid its war debts to the US in 2014, that was for world war 1!

Not sure they've paid off ww2 yet

I doubt they give these weapons for 'free' be some mad financial repayment for this
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

DaleCooper

Puts the pandemic spending madness into perspective. It was 75% of what WW1 cost the UK and under half of WW2 spending.

bennydorano

Excellent Dale, Russia & Covid within a few posts 👏

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Denn Forever on July 04, 2025, 11:10:09 AMUSA stockpile of weapons running low.  Luck trump and putin are bff
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 04, 2025, 11:10:09 AMUSA stockpile of weapons running low.  Luck trump and putin are bff

Stocks are not running low. The Fox News drunkard has gone on a solo run (again). Hopefully his decision will be overturned (again).

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/05/hegseth-weapons-shipments-ukraine


Banks of the Bann

Quote from: tbrick18 on July 04, 2025, 01:55:15 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 04, 2025, 12:22:51 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 04, 2025, 11:10:09 AMUSA stockpile of weapons running low.  Luck trump and putin are bff
All given to Satanyahu to murder Palestinians!

You're probably right.
It feels like Trump has his mind made up that Ukraine is going to lose and Russia will take over so why throw good money after bad. Whereas Israel is a sure thing.

I've always wondered, when we talk about giving weapons, does the US sell those weapons to Israel/Ukraine or do they donate? Possibly a stupid question - but the terminology used always seems to be "given" or "supplied".
I'm assuming sold, and if they are selling the weapons, where is Israel getting all the money for a country that size?
Ukraine I assume are going into huge debt?
Would that be the driving factor behind where the weapons go? More money for them in Israel?

Everything transferred under Biden will not be 'repaid'. I put repaid in '' because as I see it, the US owes Ukraine, big time, for the Budapest Memorandum f*ckup.

That didn't stop Trump trying to make Ukraine backpay for everything the US transferred to Ukraine in an earlier version of his minerals deal.

Despite US obligations to Ukraine, I would imagine everything transferred since Trump came in will be purchased, including that approved and authorised previously under Biden being transferred now. (Or was being transferred until the Fox News drunkard put the brakes on it)


Banks of the Bann

Quote from: DaleCooper on July 04, 2025, 11:24:22 AMI was told the Russian orcs were being eliminated and massive blows were being inflicted daily by the brave men and women of Ukraine.

Despite your idiotic and tasteless sarcasm, you were correctly informed.

Russian orcs are being eliminated.

Massive blows are being inflicted.

The men and women of Ukraine are indeed among the bravest on the planet. They would have already won this war but for the dithering of the cowardly western leaders and now they have to contend with Trump as well.

bennydorano


Dag Dog

Quote from: bennydorano on July 07, 2025, 06:37:25 PMBBC News - Russian minister sacked by Putin found dead
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy7nvxzrvr0o
Why bother sacking him? Just kill him like the others.

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on July 06, 2025, 12:35:36 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 04, 2025, 11:10:09 AMUSA stockpile of weapons running low.  Luck trump and putin are bff
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 04, 2025, 11:10:09 AMUSA stockpile of weapons running low.  Luck trump and putin are bff

Stocks are not running low. The Fox News drunkard has gone on a solo run (again). Hopefully his decision will be overturned (again).

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/05/hegseth-weapons-shipments-ukraine



And it now looks like there will be another u-turn on defensive weapons for Ukraine.

Trump stated in a phone call with Zelenskyy that it wasn't him who stopped the weapons. Anybody's guess if that is true or not.

Elbridge Colby, 3rd in command at the Pentagon and vociferously anti-Ukraine, appears to be the main villain.