Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

Started by Main Street, February 12, 2022, 09:38:45 PM

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Main Street

Russia's war effort now runs on crypto-mobilization and censored death stats


ISW report Euromaidan

Russian stat bureau Rosstat disappears mortality data just as Putin calls for more volunteers to defend "values"

Putin has repeatedly avoided declaring another mobilization and instead relies on crypto-mobilization methods to reinforce his forces.
While pushing for more volunteers, the Russian government has quietly erased key mortality data from public view. On 5 July, opposition outlet Meduza reported that the Russian Federal State Statistics Service (Rosstat) excluded demographic statistics from its "Socioeconomic Situation in Russia" report covering January to May 2025.

Additionally, electoral statistics researcher Dmitry Kobak said in late June that Rosstat had declined his requests for 2024 data on male excess mortality and monthly death counts by actual date of death.

ISW previously assessed that Rosstat is concealing population data "likely also aims to obscure the Russian military's high personnel loss rates."

Main Street

Quote from: bennydorano on July 07, 2025, 06:37:25 PMBBC News - Russian minister sacked by Putin found dead
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy7nvxzrvr0o

Moscow Times
Kremlin 'Shocked' by Apparent Suicide of Ex-Transportation Minister

The Kremlin said Tuesday that it was "shocked" by the apparent suicide of former Transportation Minister Roman Starovoit, who was found dead with a gunshot wound just hours after President Vladimir Putin dismissed him on Monday.



Dag Dog

Quote from: Main Street on July 08, 2025, 06:00:06 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 07, 2025, 06:37:25 PMBBC News - Russian minister sacked by Putin found dead
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy7nvxzrvr0o

Moscow Times
Kremlin 'Shocked' by Apparent Suicide of Ex-Transportation Minister

The Kremlin said Tuesday that it was "shocked" by the apparent suicide of former Transportation Minister Roman Starovoit, who was found dead with a gunshot wound just hours after President Vladimir Putin dismissed him on Monday.




Usually they have 3 gunshot wounds when they commit suicide.


Banks of the Bann

The terror bombing of Ukrainian cities continues unabated. 31 dead in yesterdays attacks on Kyiv, inclusive 5 children.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/aug/01/live-european-news-updates-kyiv-ukraine-russia-latest


Dag Dog

Talks kick off today in Alaska. Putin will run rings around Trump.
Trump will try to give away most of Ukraine, grab the mineral rights and bar them from Nato. And if Ukraine refuses, withdraw support.
What he won't do is sanction Russia. He'll give them 'two more weeks' to comply.

armaghniac

Fair play to significant crowds in Anchorage who turned out with Ukrainian flags.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

Ash Smoker

Trump achieved little except legitimising Putin. He was like a giddy school kid waiting to greet him off the plane.
When he meets Zelensky, it will be hostile.

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Dag Dog on August 15, 2025, 03:50:58 PMTalks kick off today in Alaska. Putin will run rings around Trump.
Trump will try to give away most of Ukraine, grab the mineral rights and bar them from Nato. And if Ukraine refuses, withdraw support.
What he won't do is sanction Russia. He'll give them 'two more weeks' to comply.


Trump rolls out the red carpet to his war criminal buddy boy.
Russia makes zero concessions.
The urgent necessity for an immediate ceasefire (that Ukraine accepted 5 months ago) has vanished into thin air.
And it's now apparently all 'up to Zelenskyy'.
Little wonder Putin was grinning.

Trump has done little other than encourage the Russians and will make this war longer and bloodier.

The only way there will ever be an end to this conflict is if Ukraine is properly supported and armed and Russia is sanctioned and starved of its main sources of revenue (oil and gas). Anything else and it will go on and on and on.






seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/6b0b
4912-9438-4de0-aebe-2a8dd804cbab

Vladimir Putin has demanded Ukraine withdraw from the Donetsk and Luhansk regions as a condition for ending Russia's war but told Donald Trump he could freeze the rest of the frontline if his core demands were met.

Dag Dog

Quote from: seafoid on August 16, 2025, 05:07:59 PMhttps://www.ft.com/content/6b0b
4912-9438-4de0-aebe-2a8dd804cbab

Vladimir Putin has demanded Ukraine withdraw from the Donetsk and Luhansk regions as a condition for ending Russia's war but told Donald Trump he could freeze the rest of the frontline if his core demands were met.

He's a good negotiator. Aim high and split the difference.

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/2e83d17f-92fc-4b20-bd11-d9740791c6b8

As it becomes clear that Russia is stepping up its attacks on Ukraine, with further civilian casualties, Trump may become frustrated and disillusioned with Putin. At that point, it could be possible to get the US to refocus on expanding sanctions on Russia — and increasing aid to Ukraine. Meanwhile the war grinds on.

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: seafoid on August 16, 2025, 09:13:19 PMhttps://www.ft.com/content/2e83d17f-92fc-4b20-bd11-d9740791c6b8

As it becomes clear that Russia is stepping up its attacks on Ukraine, with further civilian casualties, Trump may become frustrated and disillusioned with Putin. At that point, it could be possible to get the US to refocus on expanding sanctions on Russia — and increasing aid to Ukraine. Meanwhile the war grinds on.

Is that article from a few months ago? We've been here already.

Wildweasel74

#2158
Problem is Biden and getting backing and approval in america for sending heavy arms from day 1 and giving Ukraine total bcking, we would not be a position where Russia encamped on 4 massive regions. Plus how many conscription age men fled the country early doors when it looked like Russia gonna fold them in the first 2 weeks. Few returned.

DaleCooper

Smart. Wouldn't fancy dying for literally nothing, wonder what the Yanks are gonna use to solve the demographic issue of so many missing Ukrainian men once its over. Economy not gonna run on hopes and dreams.