All Ireland Championship 2025.

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maddog

Quote from: bennydorano on June 30, 2025, 04:56:23 PMBalls lads. Armagh are still as good as what is about. It doesn't need over analysing.

The most important person to stay on is McGeeney, if he goes I'd fear for us, other than that we'll not be too far away.

Lots of people revelling in Armagh's defeat yesterday are the same bucks talking them up all year, the new phenomenon of slot filling podcasts. Some Armagh fans (online) are insufferable tho and we all now have to pay for those clowns unfortunately.

Exactly that. We will be fine. Was a bad day at the office. Learn and move on.

maddog

Congrats Kerry, all the talk of bad Kerry team etc was bought be exactly noone. Best team on the day progressed. O'Shea was 10/10

twohands!!!

Quote from: DaleCooper on June 30, 2025, 03:16:27 PMWas it Tyrone who allowed Kerry wallop them in league in Tralee that time?

The biggest issue was the rules changing, if you dont play attacking football you lose.

Kerry did beat Armagh by 10 points in the league this year so I don't know how much Armagh could have done on that front?

gallsman

Quote from: maddog on June 30, 2025, 05:17:26 PMCongrats Kerry, all the talk of bad Kerry team etc was bought be exactly noone. Best team on the day progressed. O'Shea was 10/10

I don't know how many said Kerry were a bad team tbh. Most of the commentary was about how it was hard to judge them given they'd basically played nobody and they had a massive injury crisis, which is absolutely the case.

tiempo

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Saturday 12 July

All-Ireland SFC semi-final
Kerry v Tyrone, Croke Park, 5pm - RTE/BBC


Tailteann Cup final
Kildare v Limerick, Croke Park, 2.30pm - RTE

Sunday 13 July

All-Ireland SFC semi-final
Meath v Donegal, Croke Park, 4pm - RTE/BBC

All-Ireland JFC final
New York or Warwickshire v Kilkenny or London, Croke Park, 1.30pm - TG4 YouTube

So Kilkenny footballers second game of the season could be a curtain raiser to the All-Ireland semi final at Croke Park

The AI minors being shunted for this farce

I call bullshit

HQ decided a few years ago that Croke Park is not the place for U17s. They stopped captain speeches and U17 players can't be interviewed post-match either.  At that age profile, the GAA are minding them mentally more so than anything.

Nearly had me there

The Hogan Cup final has been played at Croke for years, and the AI minor should be too

The GAA is minding them mentally? That's plain old gaslighting if it's an official line from HQ. I'd suggest a Tyrone or Kerry minor wider panel/subs XV would hammer Kilkenny footballers out the gate, KK should absolutely not be given this huge carrot for totally disregarding the code

No issue with any of the other counties in the JFC or having a route to Croke but Kilkenny should be fucked into NFL D4 next year and told to suck it up

Rossfan

Can you please take a day off from giving out?
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

AustinPowers

Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 30, 2025, 04:40:44 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 30, 2025, 03:51:28 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 30, 2025, 02:57:50 PMGalway, Armagh & Dublin all looked lifeless. Group of death took its toil, will be glad to see the back of the group stage. You'd wonder if McGeeney regrets putting that much effort into the Galway game, as for Galway the manners of the games didn't help and eventually caught up with them.

I was happy enough at half time as thought it looked like a deliberate tactic in the first half to slow the game down and conserve energy but apart from a crazy 4 minutes in the 2nd half Galway never looked comfortable. Meath fully deserving winners.

Imagine we'll hear in the next few weeks if Joyce will stay on, I hope he does.





Wouldn't be using that excuse at all.  Before any group stage Dublin was in a struggle against Wicklow and then taken out by Meath.  Armagh had issues all year with kick outs and defensively, they strugged to adjust with the new rules and Galway was the same and the tribesmen performance yesterday wasn't much different than the one against Mayo in the Connacht final just managed to fall over the line in that one.

Nor would I use it as excuse.  The media went out their way to talk it up as the group of death however in reality and now in hindsight it was group of teams struggling to find any decent consistent form and reach the level they are capable of.  All four are deservedly out of the championship now and Galway was lucky to even get out of the group.

In regards to Armagh the new rules has set McGeeney's men back, alarm bells was ringing about the defensive issues in the first championship game against Antrim who was relegated to Division 4 and gave the freedom of Croke Park to Sean O'Shea yesterday.  Rafferty's kick outs was just as bad against Dublin in Croke Park a few weeks ago instead Dublin wasted chance after chance because they aren't very good anymore and Kerry exploited Armagh's defence and poor kick outs to the max.   

True enough. Dublin had a  similar  10-15 minute spell where they dominated Armagh's kick outs but  couldn't  score.  That should have  been a warning  to Armagh ahead of  the Kerry match

thebuzz

Quote from: gallsman on June 30, 2025, 06:46:23 PM
Quote from: maddog on June 30, 2025, 05:17:26 PMCongrats Kerry, all the talk of bad Kerry team etc was bought be exactly noone. Best team on the day progressed. O'Shea was 10/10

I don't know how many said Kerry were a bad team tbh. Most of the commentary was about how it was hard to judge them given they'd basically played nobody and they had a massive injury crisis, which is absolutely the case.
I think based on Jack's comments the criticism of Kerry was mostly from their own people.

Milltown Row2

You could only judge Kerry on how they played, regardless of who they played, they were, by their own standards, very poor, did enough to win but didn't exactly play well that would have said Kerry were contenders
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

marty34

Kerry panel were fired up by comments by their own, including Dara O'Se. Especially after the Meath game. They were at a low ebb. Players were calling for more people to travel to Dublin to support them etc.

Hence then you saw the Armagh performance. Granted Armagh, were brutal in 2nd hlf but Kerry went for it. But there was a fire in Kerry. They were written off and came out fighting.

Only thing for me now is, can they do it again in 2 weeks?

Can they bring the same fire to CP again? I'm not so sure. 

Blowitupref

Quote from: AustinPowers on June 30, 2025, 10:50:15 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 30, 2025, 04:40:44 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 30, 2025, 03:51:28 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 30, 2025, 02:57:50 PMGalway, Armagh & Dublin all looked lifeless. Group of death took its toil, will be glad to see the back of the group stage. You'd wonder if McGeeney regrets putting that much effort into the Galway game, as for Galway the manners of the games didn't help and eventually caught up with them.

I was happy enough at half time as thought it looked like a deliberate tactic in the first half to slow the game down and conserve energy but apart from a crazy 4 minutes in the 2nd half Galway never looked comfortable. Meath fully deserving winners.

Imagine we'll hear in the next few weeks if Joyce will stay on, I hope he does.





Wouldn't be using that excuse at all.  Before any group stage Dublin was in a struggle against Wicklow and then taken out by Meath.  Armagh had issues all year with kick outs and defensively, they strugged to adjust with the new rules and Galway was the same and the tribesmen performance yesterday wasn't much different than the one against Mayo in the Connacht final just managed to fall over the line in that one.

Nor would I use it as excuse.  The media went out their way to talk it up as the group of death however in reality and now in hindsight it was group of teams struggling to find any decent consistent form and reach the level they are capable of.  All four are deservedly out of the championship now and Galway was lucky to even get out of the group.

In regards to Armagh the new rules has set McGeeney's men back, alarm bells was ringing about the defensive issues in the first championship game against Antrim who was relegated to Division 4 and gave the freedom of Croke Park to Sean O'Shea yesterday.  Rafferty's kick outs was just as bad against Dublin in Croke Park a few weeks ago instead Dublin wasted chance after chance because they aren't very good anymore and Kerry exploited Armagh's defence and poor kick outs to the max. 

True enough. Dublin had a  similar  10-15 minute spell where they dominated Armagh's kick outs but  couldn't  score.  That should have  been a warning  to Armagh ahead of  the Kerry match

The similarities on the kick out stats was striking in those two Armagh games in Croke Park.


Kerry on Sunday won 13 of Armagh kick outs and another two went out over the sideline.  Dublin won 14 of Armagh kick outs a few weeks ago.


The shooting efficiency was very different.

Kerry on Sunday 27 scores from 36 shots
Dublin v Armagh had 16 scores from 37 shots

Did Armagh go away from that game and think all was fine as they had beaten Dublin while not addressing the issues with the team?  Dublin was just as poor in their shooting against Tyrone at the weekend with 16 scores from 36 shots so probably wise that Tyrone don't fall into the same trap of thinking all is ok after beating Dublin in Croke Park. 
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

DaleCooper

How much game time did Blaine Hughes get this year?

SouthDublinBro


illdecide

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tiempo

Quote from: DaleCooper on July 01, 2025, 04:08:21 PMHow much game time did Blaine Hughes get this year?

I feel that the fortuitous change in GK last year had a huge bearing on Armagh's A-I win, especially in the latter stages - Croke

It gets to the point where you need specialists in all roles, hoping that someone can wing it usually doesn't end well, was disappointed to see Hughes dropped back to backup GK for Championship this year