All Ireland Championship 2025.

[JoG2]

But Outside D'Arcy of Galway very few of these kickouts are won clean, it's all mostly break ball. A team can be on top for 50/60mins and still get beat in the last 10mins. Under the old rules that wouldn't happen.

I think that's great and adds to the jeopardy of the thing and before if a team was 6 points up heading to the last 10 mins the game was completely over now you can't leave in case a comeback is on.

Teams are going to have to develop a set play kickout to break momentum. I imagine we'll see more of these next year becuase once you go on a run of losing possession in midfield things can get bad very quickly!

Great? It's by far the worst rule of the new rules*, has turned the game into a game of luck re kickouts. At some stage it'll be dropped.
Folk talk about working on the kickout, but there's v little you can do to gain an advantage

* love most of the new rules

[tiempo]

Any time for the scheduling announcement?

Saturday 12 July

All-Ireland SFC semi-final
Kerry v Tyrone, Croke Park, 5pm - RTE/BBC


Tailteann Cup final
Kildare v Limerick, Croke Park, 2.30pm - RTE

Sunday 13 July

All-Ireland SFC semi-final
Meath v Donegal, Croke Park, 4pm - RTE/BBC

All-Ireland JFC final
New York or Warwickshire v Kilkenny or London, Croke Park, 1.30pm - TG4 YouTube

So Kilkenny footballers second game of the season could be a curtain raiser to the All-Ireland semi final at Croke Park

The AI minors being shunted for this farce

I call bullshit

[tiempo]

But Outside D'Arcy of Galway very few of these kickouts are won clean, it's all mostly break ball. A team can be on top for 50/60mins and still get beat in the last 10mins. Under the old rules that wouldn't happen.

I think that's great and adds to the jeopardy of the thing and before if a team was 6 points up heading to the last 10 mins the game was completely over now you can't leave in case a comeback is on.

Teams are going to have to develop a set play kickout to break momentum. I imagine we'll see more of these next year becuase once you go on a run of losing possession in midfield things can get bad very quickly!

Great? It's by far the worst rule of the new rules*, has turned the game into a game of luck re kickouts. At some stage it'll be dropped.
Folk talk about working on the kickout, but there's v little you can do to gain an advantage

* love most of the new rules

Dara O'Se and Brian Dooher, no-one luckier

[Maroon Manc]

Galway, Armagh & Dublin all looked lifeless. Group of death took its toil, will be glad to see the back of the group stage. You'd wonder if McGeeney regrets putting that much effort into the Galway game, as for Galway the manners of the games didn't help and eventually caught up with them.

I was happy enough at half time as thought it looked like a deliberate tactic in the first half to slow the game down and conserve energy but apart from a crazy 4 minutes in the 2nd half Galway never looked comfortable. Meath fully deserving winners.

Imagine we'll hear in the next few weeks if Joyce will stay on, I hope he does.

[Armagh18]

Galway, Armagh & Dublin all looked lifeless. Group of death took its toil, will be glad to see the back of the group stage. You'd wonder if McGeeney regrets putting that much effort into the Galway game, as for Galway the manners of the games didn't help and eventually caught up with them.

I was happy enough at half time as thought it looked like a deliberate tactic in the first half to slow the game down and conserve energy but apart from a crazy 4 minutes in the 2nd half Galway never looked comfortable. Meath fully deserving winners.

Imagine we'll hear in the next few weeks if Joyce will stay on, I hope he does.

Not sure a game 2 weeks ago should really have had any effect on freshness etc for yesterday, easy to look unfit when you're chasing shadows. Hats off to Kerry, looked the hungrier team. Hope we can keep Donaghy about, but if not then the very best to him for the future. 

[DaleCooper]

Its more of a mindset thing, but Armagh didn't have enough guile to do it. Played Galway to wire in a game Galway desperately needed to win.

Was it Tyrone who allowed Kerry wallop them in league in Tralee that time?

The biggest issue was the rules changing, if you dont play attacking football you lose.

[5times5times]

Armaghs biggest problem going into 2026 will be who is staying, and can injuries get cleared up.

All talk of who kerry missed yday, but players who didnt see grass yday for armagh were

Campbell
Oisin ONeill
McKay
Ciaran Mackin
Conor ONeill

[Armagh18]

Armaghs biggest problem going into 2026 will be who is staying, and can injuries get cleared up.

All talk of who kerry missed yday, but players who didnt see grass yday for armagh were

Campbell
Oisin ONeill
McKay
Ciaran Mackin
Conor ONeill

Big losses all of those but sure you play the hand your dealt and 2 of those didn't feature last year after the Westmeath game. Hopefully all clears up for next year and we can unearth another couple of young lads.

Forker, Grugan, Murnin, Paddy Burns, Soupy all probably at the stage where they need to think hard about whether they'll commit again.

Hope the manner of yesterday lights a fire under the rest of the team and they come back next year with a point to prove.

[thebuzz]

Well yesterday was a big disappointment. Sometimes you have to hold your hands up and say you were beaten by a much better team in the day. It was a pleasure to watch Sean O'Shea yesterday. Well done Kerry

That would be my feeling too. As Peter Canavan said last night no team would have been able to live with Kerry during that 15 minute spell yesterday. I wouldn't want to have been in Ethan's boots during that period. He made his mistakes of course but I would put it down to a complete system meltdown rather than putting it completely at his door.  Momentum always was an important commodity in football but it's off the scales now.  If you lose it then it is very hard to get back.
A Kerry team with a chip on its' shoulder is a dangerous beast especially with that wasp Jack O'Connor in charge.  You can just hear him using all the negative comments in the dressing room.
I'd have concerns over what some of our older players might do now.  Hopefully they take their time and arrive at what's best for them.

It's true that no team would have been able to live with Kerry if they gift them possession 15 times in a row but I don't think most teams would do that. He'd have been better lumping a few up the middle but for whatever reason he decided now to. It happens all the time now when teams get on top and hit 7 or 8 points in a row, but 14 is unheard of in what was a tight game before that.

It begs the question: did Armagh have the right keeper in goal?  Rafferty is great, pure excitement.  However when the FRC altered its own rule change back in February, the advantage of the attacking keeper was lost.

Is it a fair question to ask could Armagh have done with Rafferty out around the middle?

I don't put all the blame on him though - I was there as a neutral and he had no options at times especially in that spell of dominance for Kerry. Armagh looked flat and Kerry had every angle covered. He launched one right over at one stage and Kerry managed to pick up the break.

They should go all out next year to get the best goalie in the county and put Rafferty at midfield. He's a great fielder for sure.

[Blowitupref]

Galway, Armagh & Dublin all looked lifeless. Group of death took its toil, will be glad to see the back of the group stage. You'd wonder if McGeeney regrets putting that much effort into the Galway game, as for Galway the manners of the games didn't help and eventually caught up with them.

I was happy enough at half time as thought it looked like a deliberate tactic in the first half to slow the game down and conserve energy but apart from a crazy 4 minutes in the 2nd half Galway never looked comfortable. Meath fully deserving winners.

Imagine we'll hear in the next few weeks if Joyce will stay on, I hope he does.

Wouldn't be using that excuse at all.  Before any group stage Dublin was in a struggle against Wicklow and then taken out by Meath.  Armagh had issues all year with kick outs and defensively, they strugged to adjust with the new rules and Galway was the same and the tribesmen performance yesterday wasn't much different than the one against Mayo in the Connacht final just managed to fall over the line in that one.

[Blowitupref]

Any time for the scheduling announcement?

Saturday 12 July

All-Ireland SFC semi-final
Kerry v Tyrone, Croke Park, 5pm - RTE/BBC


Tailteann Cup final
Kildare v Limerick, Croke Park, 2.30pm - RTE

Sunday 13 July

All-Ireland SFC semi-final
Meath v Donegal, Croke Park, 4pm - RTE/BBC

All-Ireland JFC final
New York or Warwickshire v Kilkenny or London, Croke Park, 1.30pm - TG4 YouTube

So Kilkenny footballers second game of the season could be a curtain raiser to the All-Ireland semi final at Croke Park

The AI minors being shunted for this farce

I call bullshit

HQ decided a few years ago that Croke Park is not the place for U17s. They stopped captain speeches and U17 players can't be interviewed post-match either.  At that age profile, the GAA are minding them mentally more so than anything.

[greatpoint]

Dick Clerkin was right about this Armagh team.

What did he say about them?

Weakest team to ever win the AI.

Clerkin is a gobshite and is bit rich coming out with that from Monaghan.
A team can do no more than win the All Ireland in a given year.. Tyrone constantly had to listen to that begrudgery. . Puke football.. covid All Ireland..   

Did Clerkin actually say that? Before the Ulster final  he wrote 'as reigning All-Ireland champions, they demand respect' and thought they could beat Donegal. He also said that Armagh still have a lot to prove before being ranked as serious AI contenders this year.
Dick has being proved absolutely correct, Armagh like Monaghan went out without a whimper

He said that yesterday's game against Donegal was Monaghan's biggest in 20 years

Most probably he didn't say that either.

https://youtu.be/KR0bDGUlI8k?si=6XwbwjMTvMqpxqgp

34:00

Then he was wrong, it was at best the 2nd most important game Monaghan were to be involved in since the sf v Kerry in the last century. Is that the best you have got against Dick? being over optimistic about his own counties chances in their bid to reach the AI semi final?

You were only just saying that he didn't say that, are you happy to accept that he did now?

Best I have against Dick? Don't be getting all wound up just because you don't like what he said, maybe he was right.

[Captain Obvious]

Galway, Armagh & Dublin all looked lifeless. Group of death took its toil, will be glad to see the back of the group stage. You'd wonder if McGeeney regrets putting that much effort into the Galway game, as for Galway the manners of the games didn't help and eventually caught up with them.

I was happy enough at half time as thought it looked like a deliberate tactic in the first half to slow the game down and conserve energy but apart from a crazy 4 minutes in the 2nd half Galway never looked comfortable. Meath fully deserving winners.

Imagine we'll hear in the next few weeks if Joyce will stay on, I hope he does.

Wouldn't be using that excuse at all.  Before any group stage Dublin was in a struggle against Wicklow and then taken out by Meath.  Armagh had issues all year with kick outs and defensively, they strugged to adjust with the new rules and Galway was the same and the tribesmen performance yesterday wasn't much different than the one against Mayo in the Connacht final just managed to fall over the line in that one.

Nor would I use it as excuse.  The media went out their way to talk it up as the group of death however in reality and now in hindsight it was group of teams struggling to find any decent consistent form and reach the level they are capable of.  All four are deservedly out of the championship now and Galway was lucky to even get out of the group.

In regards to Armagh the new rules has set McGeeney's men back, alarm bells was ringing about the defensive issues in the first championship game against Antrim who was relegated to Division 4 and gave the freedom of Croke Park to Sean O'Shea yesterday.  Rafferty's kick outs was just as bad against Dublin in Croke Park a few weeks ago instead Dublin wasted chance after chance because they aren't very good anymore and Kerry exploited Armagh's defence and poor kick outs to the max.   

[bennydorano]

Balls lads. Armagh are still as good as what is about. It doesn't need over analysing.

The most important person to stay on is McGeeney, if he goes I'd fear for us, other than that we'll not be too far away.

Lots of people revelling in Armagh's defeat yesterday are the same bucks talking them up all year, the new phenomenon of slot filling podcasts. Some Armagh fans (online) are insufferable tho and we all now have to pay for those clowns unfortunately.

[Ethan Tremblay]

Balls lads. Armagh are still as good as what is about. It doesn't need over analysing.

The most important person to stay on is McGeeney, if he goes I'd fear for us, other than that we'll not be too far away.

Lots of people revelling in Armagh's defeat yesterday are the same bucks talking them up all year, the new phenomenon of slot filling podcasts. Some Armagh fans (online) are insufferable tho and we all now have to pay for those clowns unfortunately.

I would agree.  Yesterday was a poor showing, and you cannot go out at this stage of the championship and not turn up.  I doubt they will disappear into the wilderness again as a result of yesterday. 

Pundits need something to talk about of course and seeing Armagh fall off the top is going to be the topic for debate this week, before they move on to the remaining 4 and who is going to go on and win. 

A tall order for any team to go and defend an all ireland.