Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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Milltown Row2

The Mark from a kick out, the player has to deliberately impede/stop/tackle a player who makes that mark before moving it 50meters.

If the ref is getting sucked into a player deliberately trying to con the ref and looking up run into or make it look like he's being held then the ref is wrong, and needs to be told that..

There are accidental infringements/collisions when a player makes a Mark, but the ref should know if it's on purpose. And allow the player to continue or he makes him take the mark.

In all my games this year, I've yet to see it being attempted too many times, if it has I've applied it (50 m) for the tackle before 4 steps or a deliberate jostling when I've blown the whistle.

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Truthsayer

   :D try harder... best championship in years. Great games... but rumblings bout the kickout rule from the Antrim camp  :D
Sup it up new rules here to stay... was at the U20 All Ireland final an exhibition of fielding from the Louth midfielder.. sadly missed for years with the poxy 10 yard kickouts being conceded...

trueblue1234

I think we get it, you like the new rules. Unless we hear differently, we'll assume you still like the new rules. You don't need to spam the board to tell us how much you like the new rules all the time.
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Truthsayer

Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 07, 2025, 11:48:49 PMI think we get it, you like the new rules. Unless we hear differently, we'll assume you still like the new rules. You don't need to spam the board to tell us how much you like the new rules all the time.
You gotta stay on top of it... there are those would like to destroy the game again. Thanks anyway 🙌

trileacman

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2025, 04:18:08 PMThe Mark from a kick out, the player has to deliberately impede/stop/tackle a player who makes that mark before moving it 50meters.

If the ref is getting sucked into a player deliberately trying to con the ref and looking up run into or make it look like he's being held then the ref is wrong, and needs to be told that..

There are accidental infringements/collisions when a player makes a Mark, but the ref should know if it's on purpose. And allow the player to continue or he makes him take the mark.

In all my games this year, I've yet to see it being attempted too many times, if it has I've applied it (50 m) for the tackle before 4 steps or a deliberate jostling when I've blown the whistle.



Who's going to challenge him on it? Sure isn't that another 50m infringement?
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trileacman

The more the season wears on the less I believe the FRC really understood what they were at. The simple solution for rewarding the mark is that once the ball is caught cleanly the referee signals that he is playing advantage. The fielding player then has the opportunity to play on, either passing the ball or running forward with it until the ball has moved 40m.

The fielder would have the opportunity to kick the ball long into his forwards, safe in the knowledge that if they don't win it he gets a free out at MF where he caught it. Or he could solo forward with the ball taking men on knowing that if he loses it he still has the free from the mark. If they pass it back or sideways obviously the advantage ends quicker as they aren't using possession to attack.

This suits both teams. Defending teams can still tackle and play aggressively, knowing that the punishment isn't extremely severe and attacking teams are rewarded for attacking and taking risks in possession.
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: trileacman on June 09, 2025, 11:54:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2025, 04:18:08 PMThe Mark from a kick out, the player has to deliberately impede/stop/tackle a player who makes that mark before moving it 50meters.

If the ref is getting sucked into a player deliberately trying to con the ref and looking up run into or make it look like he's being held then the ref is wrong, and needs to be told that..

There are accidental infringements/collisions when a player makes a Mark, but the ref should know if it's on purpose. And allow the player to continue or he makes him take the mark.

In all my games this year, I've yet to see it being attempted too many times, if it has I've applied it (50 m) for the tackle before 4 steps or a deliberate jostling when I've blown the whistle.



Who's going to challenge him on it? Sure isn't that another 50m infringement?

You can only do one 50m ..

It's got to be deliberate, on purpose, there are impossible collisions, so many refs will see it differently
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

JoG2

Quote from: trileacman on June 10, 2025, 12:05:52 AMThe more the season wears on the less I believe the FRC really understood what they were at. The simple solution for rewarding the mark is that once the ball is caught cleanly the referee signals that he is playing advantage. The fielding player then has the opportunity to play on, either passing the ball or running forward with it until the ball has moved 40m.

The fielder would have the opportunity to kick the ball long into his forwards, safe in the knowledge that if they don't win it he gets a free out at MF where he caught it. Or he could solo forward with the ball taking men on knowing that if he loses it he still has the free from the mark. If they pass it back or sideways obviously the advantage ends quicker as they aren't using possession to attack.

This suits both teams. Defending teams can still tackle and play aggressively, knowing that the punishment isn't extremely severe and attacking teams are rewarded for attacking and taking risks in possession.

Have the rules changed again?? Surely not

trileacman

Quote from: JoG2 on June 10, 2025, 10:12:34 AM
Quote from: trileacman on June 10, 2025, 12:05:52 AMThe more the season wears on the less I believe the FRC really understood what they were at. The simple solution for rewarding the mark is that once the ball is caught cleanly the referee signals that he is playing advantage. The fielding player then has the opportunity to play on, either passing the ball or running forward with it until the ball has moved 40m.

The fielder would have the opportunity to kick the ball long into his forwards, safe in the knowledge that if they don't win it he gets a free out at MF where he caught it. Or he could solo forward with the ball taking men on knowing that if he loses it he still has the free from the mark. If they pass it back or sideways obviously the advantage ends quicker as they aren't using possession to attack.

This suits both teams. Defending teams can still tackle and play aggressively, knowing that the punishment isn't extremely severe and attacking teams are rewarded for attacking and taking risks in possession.

Have the rules changed again?? Surely not

Don't worry about it, rule changes can never be wrong, or at least that's the position of the village idiots on here.
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trileacman

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2025, 07:19:37 AM
Quote from: trileacman on June 09, 2025, 11:54:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2025, 04:18:08 PMThe Mark from a kick out, the player has to deliberately impede/stop/tackle a player who makes that mark before moving it 50meters.

If the ref is getting sucked into a player deliberately trying to con the ref and looking up run into or make it look like he's being held then the ref is wrong, and needs to be told that..

There are accidental infringements/collisions when a player makes a Mark, but the ref should know if it's on purpose. And allow the player to continue or he makes him take the mark.

In all my games this year, I've yet to see it being attempted too many times, if it has I've applied it (50 m) for the tackle before 4 steps or a deliberate jostling when I've blown the whistle.



Who's going to challenge him on it? Sure isn't that another 50m infringement?

You can only do one 50m ..

It's got to be deliberate, on purpose, there are impossible collisions, so many refs will see it differently

No genuinely you said that the referee needs to be told he is wrong. How does anyone do that given that the new rules make dissent one of GAAs capital crimes?
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Rossfan

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thewobbler

There's a lad from one of our neighbouring clubs. At home matches he stands on the far terrace, away from everyone else in attendance. He's then prone to spending 60 minutes abusing the referee in full voice.

It's a bizarre sight.

But it very much looks like the Trillick club have one of the ilk too.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: trileacman on June 10, 2025, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2025, 07:19:37 AM
Quote from: trileacman on June 09, 2025, 11:54:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2025, 04:18:08 PMThe Mark from a kick out, the player has to deliberately impede/stop/tackle a player who makes that mark before moving it 50meters.

If the ref is getting sucked into a player deliberately trying to con the ref and looking up run into or make it look like he's being held then the ref is wrong, and needs to be told that..

There are accidental infringements/collisions when a player makes a Mark, but the ref should know if it's on purpose. And allow the player to continue or he makes him take the mark.

In all my games this year, I've yet to see it being attempted too many times, if it has I've applied it (50 m) for the tackle before 4 steps or a deliberate jostling when I've blown the whistle.



Who's going to challenge him on it? Sure isn't that another 50m infringement?

You can only do one 50m ..

It's got to be deliberate, on purpose, there are impossible collisions, so many refs will see it differently

No genuinely you said that the referee needs to be told he is wrong. How does anyone do that given that the new rules make dissent one of GAAs capital crimes?

By his assessor or mentor who's at the game, if that isn't available then a chat afterwards, and I main a chat, not a rant or a rave, nice and calm to get the explanation, I find what is good is if a manager comes and chats before the game and brings up a topic and asks how do you manage that scenario?

Ranting and raving though is going to result in moving the ball
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

trileacman

Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2025, 10:26:50 AMCan't captains talk to Refs?

It simply doesn't work in GAA. It's fine in Rugby where the vast majority of the players are along the scrimmage line and so a captain is usually only a few metres away from any infringement. Plus restarts in Rugby take far longer to organise such a scrums or penalties so captains have time to approach refs and make their case or enquire as to foul.

The idea that after a foul the fullback would run out to MF or half-forward line and ask the captain to come in and ask the referee what the foul was for is ridiculous. It's a rule that looks o so clever on paper, in reality it's just bollocks.
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JoG2

Quote from: trileacman on June 10, 2025, 10:16:04 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 10, 2025, 10:12:34 AM
Quote from: trileacman on June 10, 2025, 12:05:52 AMThe more the season wears on the less I believe the FRC really understood what they were at. The simple solution for rewarding the mark is that once the ball is caught cleanly the referee signals that he is playing advantage. The fielding player then has the opportunity to play on, either passing the ball or running forward with it until the ball has moved 40m.

The fielder would have the opportunity to kick the ball long into his forwards, safe in the knowledge that if they don't win it he gets a free out at MF where he caught it. Or he could solo forward with the ball taking men on knowing that if he loses it he still has the free from the mark. If they pass it back or sideways obviously the advantage ends quicker as they aren't using possession to attack.

This suits both teams. Defending teams can still tackle and play aggressively, knowing that the punishment isn't extremely severe and attacking teams are rewarded for attacking and taking risks in possession.

Have the rules changed again?? Surely not

Don't worry about it, rule changes can never be wrong, or at least that's the position of the village idiots on here.

But you can't catch a ball clean from a kickout, pump it in, nothing comes of it and get another kick at it